When the wife gets fat and the hubby don't wanna hit it anymore
 

they call it pornography addiction. I call it obesity. Stop packing fucking burgers and start working out.

I tend to disagree... I call it life.

It's a problem. It should be written into all mariage papers that the wife has to keep a certain bodyfat percentage as long as the husband fills his provider duties.

i like the way you think...

you still coming to Phoenix?

everyone wants to blame something or someone else. its much easier than changing :winkwink:

Yep most likely ;) Registered and my friend NoWhErE found us a place to stay

Acutally you can put in a prenuptial agreement that your wife must maintain a certain body weight during the marriage.

dont have wife, dont have problems..im free and that stinks! :thumbsup

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cut off her allowance and she'll stop eating mcdonalds

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So apparently the only reason people gain weight is because they're all gluttons? What a fucking stupid, twisted and shallow view. There are a million different reasons why women OR men can gain weight... I gained weight after being on bedrest with a very dangerous pregnancy... I eat less than my 5 year old.. Does that make me an obese pig? or someone who was sick? Granted I've dropped over 75 pounds now, but if some dick made a comment like this to me when I was bigger (because of my baby) I would have fed him his fucking chicklets.

And I ALSO find it VERY ironic that 95% of the men who are the most critical of women are the ones with beer bellies and manboobs.

I don't think anyone is talking about while a woman is pregnant or sick Ladymischeif. Put down the gun! LOL

Even you had the wherewithal to drop 75lbs to an decent weight after you had your baby. Looking good and feeling good is obviously important to you and I'm sure your man appreciated it.

Well, some... no, a lot of women don't put in the time necessary to get in shape after having a baby. They use the, "I just had a baby" excuse quite often... a year later!

Losing 75 pounds says alot about your character. Not many people could / would do that. Hats off to you for having the personal will power. That trait probably makes you successful in your other endevors in life.

However, I agree with the poster. I think he is talking about the wife who turns 30 cuts her hair short gains 30 lbs because she eats more and moves around less and won't put on lingerie or a bikini because she is constantly saying, "I look fat."

What do they expect the husband to look at?

Women should realize that the looks of a mans wife is a status symbol. I'm not saying its right, but anytime your buddy has a better looking wife or girlfriend, he has one up on you.

Besides, those big panties make me puke.

I'm scared now, somenone please hold my hand

DoctorrDre is right.

Also, if we're talking about fat women, then their fatness is a big (so to speak) part of who they are - it isn't just "what they look like". Being obese - like 5' 5" and 150 - shows they have no willpower and no self-respect. Why would any man want to be with such a woman?

dont worry, everything will be good....

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Yeah well I WAS big until after a year later... It's been two years now and I only started losing the weight about 8 months ago... It's certainly not because I was lazy or a glutton, but it's not like I dropped it right away either. You have to work within the constraints of your body, and I had some comments and shit directed at me when I still couldn't help my physicality. I think it's wrong for people to judge and assume, and I'm sure that when I was walking around with that extra 75 pounds a lot of people simply looked at me and said "WHAT A FAT UGLY PIG, SHE MUST BE A GLUTTON".

It's all about ASSUMPTION... My first cousin had a SEVERE glandular problem, she was over 400 pounds.. the girl ate lettuce and had NEVER been a big eater (hell she ate healthier than I do now!)... She was working with her doctor to deal with the weight, but it ripped my heart out seeing her cry when kids and even adults would make nasty comments about her weight. I've been in that place and it's not a nice thing....

Well this is all about perspective, too.. If he's a loving husband with half a personality, why wouldn't he say "Sweetheart, I think you have a weight problem, let's work on it together". It's pretty easy to stand on the sidelines and hurl insults, but it's harder to make a stand for someone you claim to love and help them through a difficult time. THAT in my mind shows more character than sitting around calling people pigs.

If a man loves his wife, shouldn't he be willing to speak up and help her get her health back? No man is an island, and most wives I know support their husbands in a lot of things.. funny how in MANY cases the support is not returned, but on the opposite page, all they get is criticism.. Yeah that's gonna motivate her to put down the twinkies and get on the treadmill.. It's only feeding the cycle (literally and figuratively). Fortunately, I have a wonderful, loving husband who has been supportive of me in all my decisions. I feel REALLY REALLY sorry for the women who have narrow-minded, self-centered husbands who are quick to criticize and slow to help.

What a crock of shit.
You gain weight when your body gets more callories than it spends.
If you eat reasonable and work out you will never be fat.

Really? And you, sir, and people just like you, are as big a part of the problem as anything. Just because YOU don't like one type of person doesn't mean that everyone should share your opinion. Just because someone doesn't like black people, or asian people, or european people, or whatever, does that mean EVERYONE should share their view? Surprisingly enough, some people are able to look past physical elements and see the person that is inside... Everyone of those "fat women" is a person too, with feelings, a personality, a mind, and if you get off your fucking high horse for 5 whole seconds, you might actually see that. Hell, there's men who LOVE bigger women (my husband being one of them, he was very sad when I dropped the weight, but he's proud of me nonetheless and loves me NO MATTER WHAT).

LOL, its also too fucking funny how EVERY fat person blames it on a bad medical condition. I have NEVER heard a single fat person admiting that he simply ate too fucking much and was a lazy bastard.

Jesus Christ, why is the fat thing such an issue. You don't like fat girls, fine, that's your bag! More power to ya. Some guys do, that's their thing, more power to them. Unless they are holding you down and splinting your cock to force you to fuck a fat chick you don't want, what the hell difference does it make?

My husband got bald..maybe I should have put something in our marriage license about that. Silly, huh? So is this discussion. You don't want to fuck a fat girl...then don't. But lay off the people who do, for chrissakes. And, regardless is you understand it, lots of guys do, and if you'd like, I can show you hundreds of emails to prove it.

Furthermore, that's BS Lord-I-don't-know-shit. There are reasons people gain weight even when they are not gluttons. PCOS, thyroid, etc. Of course that's the exception, but don't make a blanket statement and expect someone not to point out the exceptions. (And no, I'm not claiming it not to be true in MY case. I barely eat, but I work every second I am not caring for my kids because I'm a single mom and I have no help from their dad, so my activity level isn't where it should be. Well, until this last week when I started exercising, but that's aside from the point.)

apples / oranges.


Being fat is unhealthy and not normal.

Huh, I guess I just broke another of your assumptions, imagine that. And I didn't even see that post until after I posted mine.

Apparently you ARE as stupid as you come off.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/74/89446
http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH...339/23671.html
http://www.clevelandclinic.org/flori...ric/causes.htm
http://obesitysurgery-info.com/obesityreasons.htm

Apparently all the medical professionals are full of shit too, right?

And the people with severe diabetes who develop it, the people with severe thyroid problems, the people who are on bedrest for illness, etc, OF COURSE that's unhealthy and not normal.. their obesity in many cases is a SYMPTOM, not a cause. Get a fucking clue.

Most of them are. They just cant pass up an opportunity to milk you for your money.

Having diabetes and being on a bedrest are rare exeptions.

Most obese people are simply gluttons and have no self control.

Seems to me you have some issues wayyy beyond being a narrow-minded asshole. I'm not going to waste my time pissing with someone who can't see past the end of his own nose.

I have never met or heard of an overweight person who eats well and exercises regularly.

That being said, its actually much harder for some women to maintain a healthy weight. Lots of women spend at least twice as much time working out than we have to, which can make it very difficult.

Not for nothing, I like both of you ladies here and have enjoyed your posts over the years.

With that said, you guys are taking this issue personally and not looking at it for what it is.When a man marries a smaller girl obviously that package is what turns him on.

We aren't talking about the man that marries the bigger girl, more power to him. Plenty of people do.

We'e not talking about women with medical conditions, pregnant women or even women that are clincally insane and lose control around Ho Ho's.

This coversation if for the other guy. For the guy that marries a small woman obviously some of the attraction dies when the woman gets large. Not that he's not going to still love her, sure on an emotional level he will, but realistically the attraction is going to go away. Cheating is not far behind.

Who wants that to happen? So, it's in the woman's best interest to do what she can to keep that from happening. It's insanely irresponsible for her not to take care of herself and keep that from happening.

Same for the man, no one's claiming a double standard here, we have to keep looking as good as possible as well... although the first priority of a responsible husband is to financially take care of the home which puts us in a different bag.

I'm in the gym at least 4 days a week. 8% bodyfat and plenty of muscle. If my girlfriend starts to gain weight uncontrollably I'm going to help her lose it. But if she gets to the point where she just lets herself go and makes no effort to stay healthy then what the fuck do you expect me to do? Same goes for marriage. At least put in the effort I do.

This is exactly what I mean..you would be PRO-ACTIVE in such a situation.. but you my dear are an EXCEPTION, not a rule. A lot of men are quick to criticize a woman for gaining a few pounds, but they can't be bothered to help them get it back. Remember too, that once a woman reaches menopause, it is more difficult for her to keep the weight down.. this is not conjecture, it's a scientific fact, and sometimes even just the process of aging is enough to bring a woman down and get her into the cycle...

I apologize if it seems I'm taking his personally... more than anything I really think it's the world's view that's fucked up than anything. I can appreciate a man who marries a small woman who wants her to stay that way, and 99.9% of the time SHE wants to stay that way too, but life happens, and gets in the way... A spirit of helpfulness and support is the only way to ward off this kind of thing, not a spirit of condemnation and criticism.

On the flip side, how many MEN get married to women and start out all sleek and muscular, then end up 10 year later balding with beer bellies and manboobs? I find that most of the time when a WOMAN says anythign about it, she's just a "bitch". There's a huge double standard that people in society seem to have, and people like Lord Nelson, and some of the other yahoos I've seen around only contribute in a negative way to that standard...

I've always been the type of person who says if you don't like something, don't bitch about it unless you're willing to change it. The same goes for EVERYTHING in life, and for people who throw up their hands and say
"I can't help", all I have to say is, why not?

Something else, too.... A lot of those same housewives who have put on the pounds have one big ugly monster to fight... SHAME. They are as ashamed of their weight gain as their husbands are disenchanted by it.. It's hard to find the strength alone to go to the gym and put on the tights when you're ashamed of what you look like and who you are. If more men were willing to STOP the cycle of shame by being loving and supportive, a lot more women would be able to find the courage to take the next step.

And I wish my honey had said something over the ten years it took me to gain the weight I had gained. I offer no excuses other than a lack of caring and a change of lifestyle. Sitting at a computer does not keep anyone in shape.

I had never had a weight gain in my life, until I sat down at this bloody computer to earn my living....and ten years later, I was fat. Obese.

My husband adores me and never said a word. I can't put the responsibility on him, simply because it would have done no good, as I wasn't ready to assume the accountability for what I ate and the fact that I was eating too much and not exercising at all. I think about what he could have said and I realise nothing would have worked until I decided that being fat was not something I wanted.

It took an epiphany for me...as I laid flagstone one fine Spring day.....and thought I was going to die, merely from lifting stones that weighed no more than 20 pounds. That is what sent me to the gym...and got me on a nutritional progran, weight lifting and resistance training.

We eat for all kinds of reasons....for me, it is stress that does it, I have found out.

It took me four months to figure out that food is just fuel for my body, exercising relieves stress, and muscles burn fat.

Nine months later....I've gone from a size 18 to a size 6 and I will NEVER go through this again. At this point, the gym is now my magnificent obsession and it's a bloody good one, since it's healthy and allows me to work at this damned computer and stay at a reasonable weight.

I agree that most Americans do not eat healthy and I also agree that the medical profession makes shit loads of money by allowing us to think it's not our fault.......most weight loss programs are designed to fail, even if one achieves their goal.....recidivism is high because they want your money the second, third, and fourth time around. Yo yo dieting is about as unhealthy as a body can get...

While there are certain medical conditions that contribute to obesity, they are few and far between, as per research by the medical community.

It is up to us to educate ourselves and then do it. Hard, but not impossible.

Food has so many meanings, emotionally, for people...and in today's society, we don't walk as they do in Europe. We ride. We sit.

Not only that, nutrition is not something people study, to any great degree. With Lean Cuisine, etc., touting their shit and other manufacturere trying to pull the net carb thing out of their asses, we have a tendency to research televisions with greater intensity than we take when examining what goes into our mouths.

Not offering excuses, but I look at the lifestyles of many Americans and they really do believe they do not have the time to cook healthy, eat healthy....I found out the hard way that we have to make the time and it really doesn't take any longer nor does it cost any more to eat healthy.....by the time we drive through McDonald's, we could have prepared a nutritious meal.

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Great story Raven, keep it up.

Send them to me, I don't mind big girls. One thing i don't get is when fat guys talk about other fat girls i have a couple friends like that.

This thread is hilarious. So all the guys expect "their women" to stay in tip top shape, look like a teen porstar and run around in sexy lingerie...and then jump into bed, give the big guy a massage and a blowjob and let him drift off to sleep. I think I got things about right haven't I?

Well, that is really nice...now how about if the "big guy" stops being big! I want a six pack guys, and not one ouce of fat on your sexy body! I want a full head of hair, that never has a hair out of place. I never want to see 5 o'clock shadow, running around in an old t-shirt and jogging pants and you better bring home BIG money because I will be too busy working out at the gym, getting my hair done, my nails, my pedicure, my botox treatments and going to my psychiatrist trying to figure out why I am still with a man that is so friggen shallow. Oh..I also need a nanny, a housekeeper, a personal masseuse...and I need a boy toy..cause man..your dick just isn't big enough and you haven't got a clue on how to please a woman.

I personally dont like obese lady especially to those who dont show the will to burn those fats nor have calorie intake control.

some ladies out there are pure lazy :)

Thanks...and I wish everyone could do this....my sister in law has cholesterol problems and high blood pressure. She works hard and has two kids.....and she goes up and down on the scale like crazy.

The one common denominator that I am finding is that women have a tendency, especially after motherhood...to put their needs last in line.

The old saying 'if momma ain't happy, nobody's happy' plays inside my head and it's true. We women are notorious for being last in line when it comes to pampering and care taking for ourselves. There is always someone else to take care of, something else to do before we go to sleep....and, unfortunately, we suffer as a result...with weight gain and ill health...for which we bandaid, rather than fix.

I don't know what the answer is and I am certainly in no position to judge others, having been there.....but there better be an answer soon, because we are dying as a result of our eating habits.....sooner than necessary.

Cholesterol research has shown that the problems that finally show up in our forties and fifties actually begin when we're babies....that's frightening.

Diabetes, that is diet induced, can be treated....but that predisposition also starts in childhood.

Our schools are woeful in what they provide children for food.

And, if we don't start educating our kids when it comes to healthy eating, we will continue to increase weight and morbidity.

Here's something else. Men are also fat. While many of them gain in one place, that great big 'ole belly, don't think we don't notice. :)

I know, I am taking it personally. I am just so sick of the fat discussion, yanno? It comes up over and over again, and to me, it makes me feel like I have to defend people..not so much myself, because, honestly, I AM comfortable with who I am. I know there is room for improvement, but even though I am taking steps NOW to improve, I know my goal is still going to be considered a cow by some of you guys...but that doesn't matter to me. As long as I am happy with my results.

But the fact is that is it fucking HARD to maintain a fit body, and most women are working full time jobs, and most women do the lion's share of the childcare, and the better part of the housework, too. These same guys who bitch are often the ones who will come home from work and sit on their own spreading ass watching the game with a beer while their wife chases four kids around, cooks dinner, gives them all baths, helps with homework, puts them in bed and then does laundry until she has to go to bed for work the next day. If men REALLY care about their women..not even about them being fit, but just caring about their woman in general, instead of bitching, why not tell her you will take over all the house and kids stuff so they can go to the gym after work? Or, better yet, why not start cooking healthy meals together, and getting a sitter so you can go to the gym together? If you don't like your wife's self esteem slipping enough to let an otherwise healthy body go (meaning assuming there are not REAL health reasons she is gaining), shut the fuck up about it, and DO something about it. Tell her how much you love her, tell her you want to live to a ripe old age with her, tell her you want to do it WITH her, so she doesn't feel more ashamed of herself and her body and share even less of it with you.

It's the double standard that pisses me off the most. Not even about LOOKS so much, but about attitude. If you treat a woman like a piece of meat that's only there to satisfy you sexually and who cares about the woman within, sorry, but I don't really think you have any room to bitch about anything..with an attitude like that, you'd be lucky to have ANY woman, lol.

I do understand the point. But you know, when a woman feels good about herself, she wants to be the best she can be. Maybe if men started focusing more on what THEY can do to inspire their women to want to be at their best in the first place, none of this would even become an issue in most cases. When you takes care of us, we WANT to take care of you. I don't mean you pay the bills and you have the right to expect me to kiss you ass. I mean, you tend to my emotional needs, my physical needs, my intellectual needs, and I want to do the same for you. So, it's a chicken and egg issue, really, and you can argue all damn day about which comes first; the bottom line is it doesn't matter-but it takes the bigger person (haha, that's a pun) to say, it doesn't matter where the cycle began...it stops here. I personally think obesity is sometimes a heath issue, but far more often, it is an emotional issue..it's the symptom of a deeper disease, if you follow me. So, curing the symptom is good, but curing the disease is better. (For those who do not follow me, I mean that working out and eating right is all well and good, but it would be better to fix the emotional causes of the weight gain in the first place.)

And, for the record, I like you too, PW. :thumbsup

I think the double standard stinks, too, for the record. I see job discrimination for heavy women.....there's a girl at my gym who weighs quite a lot and she is working so hard to lose that weight, just to get a teaching position at the master's level...and she knows that her weight will be a factor when being considered for employment.

It sucks, but it is what it is. :(

One more thing before I call this quits....the ONLY way this worked for me was forcing my entire household to change their ways, so I could change mine.

That meant no more junk food, no more soda, no more anything that was not on my nutrition program.

If a guys wife never had a history of being overweight then puts on 75 lbs . The guy must look at the situation and say why is she unhappy.What can I do to help her but thats how a adult would handle it.

there is not a double standard thats a myth , I am a very large male getting jobs are just as hard and when you get it they treat you like your almost a little slow.Also this is acceptable to be a fat guy is not true I had more your a great guy and put into the friend zone. In fact girls have it easier, there arent fat guy admirer parties where half the crowd are very hot girls. lol

Oh yeah, men never cheat on hot wives, lol!! I know several examples right here in this industry :)

There are two sides to every argument and this is no exception. However I do think there are many women (and I know several), men too, who get into a comfort zone after they get together with their partner or get married and just stop bothering to make an effort. I'm not speaking of those with medical reasons.