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okay champ


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First off, I don't blame you for moving. That is a reasonable request, and I do understand that situation.

Second, in case you missed it, I AM doing something about my size. And it's NOT by starving myself until I've lost all my muscle mass, and my hair and teeth fall out from lack of nutrients, like you would have people believe is the way, and if you have ever had a weight problem, you would know that...so why not stop acting like the authority on the subject when you have absolutely NO experience with it, while someone like Raven, who HAS, you ignore and argue with like she's an idiot. Only makes you look like a fool.:2 cents:

Thirdly, my body, as it is now, is paying my bills via the small amateur site I have at which hundreds of people have spent their money to see me nude, so obviously not everyone in the world feels the way you do.

It doesn't matter if you understand people's preferences. The fact is they are what they are. It astounds me that a woman would ever want someone with a bad attitude, no matter how good he looks, but the fact is, there are some that do. I don't understand people who get off on seeing others abused, but some people do. We are ALL different and we perceive things differently and we like different things. I am not picking on you for liking thin girls am I? Hell no, that's your choice and I don't give a damn what chick you want to pork.

Not understanding it isn't a good reason to bash it. That is exactly how all forms of intolerance start..racism, sexism, sexuality discrimination..it all stems from not understanding other people and their preferences, background, and culture. This is NO different.

Yeah, you have a right to be annoyed at the fat people who made your plane trip uncomfortable..but do you hate all kids and treat them as sub-human because one of them may have made your plane trip uncomfortable, too, or do you save your hate exclusively for fat folks? If so, it has nothing to do with the discomfort and everything to do with your own hatred for things you don't understand, and I'm sorry, but that is an immature way of handling things.:2 cents:

Oh, and by the way, it wasn't me who squeezed you in the seat. So don't treat me like shit because of something someone else did and expect me to be ok with that.

Apparently you have reading problems as well, you stupid moron. I've lost 75 POUNDS, that didn't come from "stuffing my mug with fries and whining on boards". Yahoo.

You have to give all the people on this thread credit for trying! Keep it up you all!

my step grandmother was 700lbs when she died. she wanted to blame it on an underactive thyroid problem when in all honesty, it was because she ate too much. when she had my aunt (at the time she weighed over 300lbs), she dropped 150 of it to have her.

the medical problems came because of all the weight gain. failing thyroid glands, diabetes, failing eye sight and organ failure. the doctor explained very clearly that about 1-2% of all obesity comes from medical issues. the remaining 98% of obesity comes from people's lack of self control.

Yeah.. I know my weight gain was primarily because of 9 months of bedrest due to pregnancy, and then another subsequent several months still needing bedrest.. I have a genetic bleeding disorder that caused major problems both during pregnancy and afterwards. I've always been active.. I rode horses for many years, did all types of physical activity including hiking, kickboxing, etc.

A lot of people have eating problems, it's true, but life happens, too :)

My cousin went from 160 pounds to 121 pounds by starving herself.
Never put any weight back on, teeth, skin and hair are beautiful and she looks hotter than ever.

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Apparently stupidity runs in the family :)

Good thing that you are doing something about it. I never make fun of people who are TRYING.

I'm also glad that you don't buy into all that "fat because of bad genetics or medical condition" bullshit.

You just combined quotes from two different posters: Chase and Cassie. You really are one of the smart ones here, aren't you? :helpme

She is a healthy, unbelievably hot woman and you are a fat, smelly cow.

Who is stupid now? :1orglaugh

yeah my bad. their usernames looked similar so i confused them to be the same person.

I smell yummy and your cousin starved herself. I'd say she's the stupid one now and probably forever :)

You're really not a very good troll - good trolls at least have some intelligence in their button pushing. :disgust

I don't think anyone is saying that the majority of obese people are not responsible, at least in part. I believe the arguement is more that saying they all are lazy isn't correct, either. It's like saying all thin people work out and eat healthy. It's true in most cases, but not in all.

It's understandable. You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

atleast i'm sharp enough not be a 300lb cow.

You're right about that. It only took six months to gain it. Ten years to make a decision. A year to get to goal one. And, another year to get to goal two.

I have an extensive medical background. Metabolism does slow down due to the aging process. It also slows down due to the fact that when we age, we become more sedentary.

So, which one is responsible for getting heavy?

I know I was very active in my twenties. Didn't gain an ounce. When I sat down at this computer, I slowed down. And, I ate badly. So I don't see where my age has as much to do with anything as poor habits.

smelling like molded cheese is NOT yummy.

Are you staying Oprah's an idiot too? And how do we know you're not a 300lb cow? :1orglaugh

Well, hun, eating too little long term is just as much of a health risk as eating too much long term, and I am not willing to put my body into even more shock by stressing it like that after I've already been stressing it by being overweight. If that's what you consider lazy..well, to be truthful, I really don't give a damn, so I think I'm just gonna drop it with you. I will follow a plan I know I can stick with, that will cause a slow loss in size, that will build muscle mass so as the fat melts off, the firm muscle will appear, that will build my stamina and feed my body's nutritional needs, and make me HEATHIER in the end. Because that is my goal..not to be thin. Thin is a nice byproduct of becoming fit and healthy, which is my goal. If you find that stupid, more power to ya. But when I post pics of myself after a 100 pound weight loss, and you are going on about how great I look, you just remember this thread, and tell me I was right.:thumbsup

Seriously, can we get a better troll in here besides Lord Nelson? I can go to the local middle school and have a more intelligent convo with one of the 6th graders :(

Oprah is an idiot and so is anyone that watches her show.

hahahaha

yes she is, and so are you for even asking that question :1orglaugh

Yeah, Oprah's really stupid, lol! She's managed to build a buisness the rest of you can only dream about ;)

I dont see any problem with trying to lose weight by eating sensibly and exercising. If you have this self controll, then its great and i'm happy for you.

I brought fasting up because some retards here were claiming that even by eating very little and exercising regulary they were still gaining weigh.

The example had make them understand that if your body burns more callories than it recieves, then you lose weight.

That's healthy............

she built a business on brainwashing stupid twats like you with her bullshit.

Maybe they wouldn't GAIN doing that, but the way they would lose is very unhealthy, and that's the point I think you are missing..the forest for the trees.

Lord Nelson isn't exactly a MENSA member :thumbsup

How can you say it's unhealthy without doing any research on it? People have been practising it for thousands of years. It is actually pretty healthy.

Go read on it for a change.

Wrong, wrong, and somewhat correct.

When presented with a sudden fast, the body does go into a conservation mode, it tends to preserve stored fat and draws it's nutrients from your more beneficial tissues such as muscles. It's a proven fact that is supported in every health and nutrition publication I've ever read.

Um, no, not exactly. Skinny people do not have a large supply of fat to begin with. Skinny people who stop eating for extended periods are predisposed to anorexia, but yes, if they start eating they will gain some weight, and after an extended fast they will gain it especially so. The body tends to want to prevent another crisis thus it begins storing fat. Now, if the skinny person were to use that food intake towards fueling some exercise, they will also gain some muscle mass, which is always a good thing.



But I see what's really going on in this thread. This Lord Nelson is just another fake nickname of Dark Jedi, and this thread seems to be just another opportunity for this creep to cock off at people, belittle people, and make a fool out of himself.

Some things never change.

um i'm not doing anything about anything because i don't have a problem whether it be medical or lack of control. my weight is not an issue. i'm fine thanks.

i just stated that 1-2% of obesity does come from a medical condition. pregnancy can attribute to substantial weight gain AND substantial weight loss (beyond ones initial weight at time of conception).

by the same token, you do have those who are glutton. so be it. neither situation effects me and like wise.

Yeah, ok, because I am the one making claims unsubstantiated by medical science and studies, right?

I am the one who is smack in the middle of making a lifestyle change and I've done NO research on the subject, right?

Ooookay then, fool.

Maybe Lord Fuckknob should read this article.. it was only recently posted on the news sites.. but it might be a bit of an eyeopener for him. Apparently, obesity can be "catching":

http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/heal...out530627.html

Doesn't mean you shouldn't eat right and exercise... but there's more to life than meets the eye :)

This is what happens when you stop receiving nutrition from food-your body does this to survive. Yes, it takes a long time of starving to get to this point, but it is the end result of a process that eats away at muscle and healthy tissue right along with fat, and it's not something I am interested in. I'd rather be fat then look like that.
http://www.chrismish.com/images/eatwillya.jpg

My goal is more along these lines:
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Healthy, flat belly, musclular thighs, round ass.

its not really what u eat, it mostly has to do if u exersize or not.
You can eat almost anything within reason if u are willing to walk/run it off.

Ok I'm tired of this. I think we should all just eat Lord Nelson.

Funny thread lol...

Case closed!

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Obesity being called a disease? That's just ridiculous. I read articles like this and I can see the medical community getting body lifts and gastric bypasses paid for by insurance companies.

Yeah. Blame it on viruses. Blame it on genetics. Blame it on age.

The only accurate word I see in this article is 'epidemic'.

HOLY FUCK :1orglaugh


"Oh noes, I caught teh fat!"




Seriously, no one can be THAT fucking stupid :1orglaugh

Apparently you're too stupid to read the article and the scientific research behind it. Not that surprised, though :P

Well most of the time it's a MENTAL disease... But it's proven that some people are genetically predisposed to be more likely to be obese, and those people have to work twice as hard to fight the bulge. This research shows that some viruses could alter genetics (which we know they all do, viruses are mutagens) to predispose people who weren't previously predisposed.

haha seven pages..damn people are really sensitive, just think i thought only race threads gets people riled up..if you're fat, be fat and happy fuck it you live once

like the robbie williams song says...."i know i'm gunna die so living well is my revenge..!!!!"

LM..I like and respect you very much; but on this one, I will vehemently and respectfully disagree. I will say that there are plenty of people who would benefit from therapy.....to deal with suppression and repression and issues buried in piles of ice cream....but a disease? no.....I studied medicine for too many years...and I've followed the research and the theories....there are factors, emotional ones that can contribute to obesity, but obesity itself...has many factors to it, not the least of which is a lack of education as to how food works with the body....and a lack of will power and a resistance to learning what it takes to gain emotional balance....so that food is not an issue....

This is not to say that there are no medical conditions that cause obesity, but they really do account for less than 2% of the obese population.

I would say that the percentage is actually higher than 2%, BUT.... much of those medical conditions can be circumvented through better nutrition and proper exercise, thus making the actual amount of pure medical-related obesity quite low, as you said.

Basically everyone is right in this thread. There actually ARE fat lazy fucks out there who blame their weight on everything except themselves.

There ARE some women out there who, after getting married gain 50 or 100 lbs, then 3 months after the divorce they lose the weight and become "hot" again (for the next guy).

There ARE some overweight people out there who, no matter what they try, what they eat, or how much they exercise, they can not lose their extra weight.

There ARE overweight people out there who are perfectly happy with who they are and the way they look, while still others are miserable and have serious self esteem issues due to their weight (be they overly skinny or fat)


People just have to learn to either be happy about themselves, or if they're not, then do something to change it. I have a sister who has been fighting obesity all of her adult life (going on 40 years now). I have a cousin who was massively overweight back in the 70's, and she finally took the step of having her stomach stapled in the mid 80's. If she hadn't gone to that extreme measure she would have surely been dead long ago. Yes, she was that overweight.

And, I know of several very attractive girls who are so not overweight, yet they eat like rabbits and obsess about it every day, their looks and their weight being a constant concern. Very pathetic, actually.

Let's just be happy today, and say that in this thread just about everyone is right. Except for those who felt the need to throw insults at anyone who disagreed with them.

Cheers all. :D

There are complications to certain diseases, such as uncontrolled hypothyroidism and diabetes...but, I was not counting those in my percentages...just to clarify...there are other diseases that exist and obesity can become a factor without the individual adhering to very strict nutritional guidelines...but, again, that wasn't part of the 2% .....

We agree that prevention is the only way to avoid many conditions, such as high blood pressure, heart conditions, adult onset diabetes and to some degree, endocrine disorders.....

I know for a fact that I caused my own gallbladder problem, because there is absolutely no familial history ...but ten years of unhealthy, high fat choices killed my gallbladder and I had to get surgery. My bad and it could have been avoided....which is what we all need to think about, from childhood on.

I luv fat chicks :thumbsup