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Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:17 PM

For tonight only - I'll answer all questions about scouting for models (pix)
 
For tonight only - I'll answer all questions about scouting for models in an open forum format. You ask here, I reply here to benefit everyone.

In case you don't know me I discovered 225 Models for Hustler Magazine, 44 Penthouse Pets, 20 Perfect 10 models, 70% of the cast of all 50 "Barely Legal Video" series, and thousands of the top Adult magazine models & porn stars of today. See www.sstm.net www.petergirls.com or www.povporn.com to see some of my discoveries and ask questions here:

Nikita Laska - I found her in a strip club in reno called "Wild Orchid"
http://www.sstm.net/Nikita/Nikita3.jpg

Jennifer Luv - I found her in a parking lot near my house applying for a job @ Office Max.
http://www.sstm.net/JeniferLuv/jlsmile9a.jpg

Ember - I found her in a Trailer Park where I shoulda left her.
http://www.sstm.net/Ember/Ember_mattsb032.jpg

Pete-KT 03-21-2005 08:21 PM

how do you approach them?

Za Ha 03-21-2005 08:22 PM

Do you ever fuck the models you scout?

L0rdJuni0r 03-21-2005 08:22 PM

http://www.sstm.net/JeniferLuv/jlsmile9a.jpg

i think she is the best :thumbsup

beemk 03-21-2005 08:22 PM

ok ill start.

i live in michigan where there isnt really any agencies to find girls. i want to find a 18-20 year old girl for a solo girl site. where is the best place to start once i'm ready?

quiet 03-21-2005 08:23 PM

out of curiosity, how effective do you think it would be to use the 'scouting for models' guise for finding girls who just want money to fuck ie basically prostitution?

i've always wondered about this...

Spunky 03-21-2005 08:23 PM

Quote:

Ember - I found her in a Trailer Park where I shoulda left her.
I heard she is some psycho bitch from hell..she looks hot though

shuki 03-21-2005 08:24 PM

nice ladies :thumbsup

Steen2 03-21-2005 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky
I heard she is some psycho bitch from hell..

:Oh crap

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete-KT
how do you approach them?

Be prepared to get turned down and to be well recieved and accept both. Smile (It's contagious) and say something cocky witty & funny and hand them a snappy business card.

Get them to talk about themselves, ask some questions, take an interest in the answer too - and ask them if they have the guts (or balls - that's funny) to pose nude. Don't ask girls in large groups or with thier boyfriends.

And keep your convo clean & respectfull even if she says "no" because I've had girls keep my card for 5 years & finally use it. Remember, the first thing people remember about you is the last thing that you said to them.

beemk 03-21-2005 08:29 PM

the pov site looks nice, im going to try the hosted galleries tonight, where do i find them?

Pete-KT 03-21-2005 08:30 PM

Thank you very much, very helpful

Hunter_ST 03-21-2005 08:30 PM

Over the past year, I've found some of my models through onemodelplace, and i've also placed ads in local college papers.

Had success in both places, but the quality of model -- and eagerness to go far enough -- vary by model.

Q: Where should I be looking for new explicit nude models?

I don't need hardcore fucking-sucking -- just explicit nude, solo and toys.

That is, where would you concentrate your recruitment dollars in an under-served market like mine?

Should I just use a Philadelphia/New York agency and fork over the dough?

Or shoot new, young models who don't know any better? :winkwink:

Thanks!

Hunter_ST 03-21-2005 08:31 PM

I have a 30-ish woman to do my recruiting for me, too, so it's not some sleazy guy going after them (like me!).

TheMob 03-21-2005 08:31 PM

What's your conversion rate?

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Za Ha
Do you ever fuck the models you scout?

www.povporn.com - the most valuable shoot of any model is the first scene... I grew tired of giving it everyone else years ago.

TheLegacy 03-21-2005 08:32 PM

obvious question is first where do you find best to meet girls.

secondly approaching the girls how do you bring up the topic without being slapped

third if you want them for lesbian content when during the conversation do you bring that up

fourth, do you mention pricing??

Fifth, do you bring a girl along with you to help the introductions?

Sixty, do most girls go right with you or do you try and set up an appointment?

Seventh, what is it about the girl when you first see her that gives you the impression she would be interested?? or is it just having a thick skin??

eighth, have you had any experience with canadian girls? Im in toronto

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk
the pov site looks nice, im going to try the hosted galleries tonight, where do i find them?

Linking codes, Hosted galleries, pick one of the 10 galleries of each girl & select "View"

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMob
What's your conversion rate?

100% of the girls that I don't ask say "no"

J-$ 03-21-2005 08:35 PM

what would be the all-around #1 motto/rule to go by in the adult industry?? for a beginna

SureFire 03-21-2005 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet
out of curiosity, how effective do you think it would be to use the 'scouting for models' guise for finding girls who just want money to fuck ie basically prostitution?

i've always wondered about this...

Interesting question, I guess the girl would charge her one time fee plus the same fee for each person in the camera crew during her session plus tips to sign a model release. BTW, I am just assuming :upsidedow

BrettJ 03-21-2005 08:36 PM

how many ads do you have running each week? besides omp ... are there any other good online sites for model recruiting?

what % do you approach on the street? % respond to ad? % you solicit by email? % find one of your sites and email you?

why does www.petergirls.com/members/ 404 ?

tony286 03-21-2005 08:37 PM

some good info thanks pov :)

swedguy 03-21-2005 08:37 PM

What do you look for when you find new talents? What do you base it on?

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk
ok ill start.

i live in michigan where there isnt really any agencies to find girls. i want to find a 18-20 year old girl for a solo girl site. where is the best place to start once i'm ready?

Newspaper ads are good but take alot of time to weed through the applicants. Online chat boards are great cause alot of them let everyone post pictures. Strip clubs are good, but be carefull not to step on toes without asking permission. Give finders fees when someone refers you a model, word of mouth is your best advertising.

BVF 03-21-2005 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet
out of curiosity, how effective do you think it would be to use the 'scouting for models' guise for finding girls who just want money to fuck ie basically prostitution?

i've always wondered about this...

It's the same thing except you're holding the camera. That's the beauty of shooting your own content.

beemk 03-21-2005 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
Newspaper ads are good but take alot of time to weed through the applicants. Online chat boards are great cause alot of them let everyone post pictures. Strip clubs are good, but be carefull not to step on toes without asking permission. Give finders fees when someone refers you a model, word of mouth is your best advertising.

thanks

what kind of ads do you put in the paper? are you more up front about what it is? and is there any secret to weed out through the girls. how do you find out if they're cute enough... do you actually set up an interview or get them to email a picture or something?

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrettJ
how many ads do you have running each week?

I rarely advertise, I'm too picky & so are my clients. I guess I'm too lazy and spoiled to answer the phone 24-7 to broke desperate GUYS and girls that can't read any of the text on my ad except the $$$ & My phone number.

besides omp ... are there any other good online sites for model recruiting?

OMP can suck my cock - end of story.

what % do you approach on the street?

100% that are ready to hear my short shpeel and I have time. Sometimes I just say something funny & hand them my card.

% respond to ad?

see above.

% you solicit by email?

whenever I can and am not shooting content, traveling or sleeping.

% find one of your sites and email you?

a bunch - no exact numbers. But they all check them out for sure. Makes you look legit when you have something solid to show them.

why does www.petergirls.com/members/ 404 ?

It's not launched or finished yet - this week we will finish it.

Hunter_ST 03-21-2005 08:46 PM

Beware: Strip club girls often look a lot worse with the lights on -- I've had to retouch many an image of strippers for club websites. I often wonder if the girls wonder where the scars and stretch marks go when they get in front of my camera. :pimp

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet
out of curiosity, how effective do you think it would be to use the 'scouting for models' guise for finding girls who just want money to fuck ie basically prostitution?

i've always wondered about this...

I don't do escorting but shooting porn, nude pictures & video has been legal since long ago.

reynold 03-21-2005 08:49 PM

Those models are hot? Did you get to fuck any of them?

TheLegacy 03-21-2005 08:50 PM

did you not want to answer the questions I posted??

obvious question is first where do you find best to meet girls.
secondly approaching the girls how do you bring up the topic without being slapped
third if you want them for lesbian content when during the conversation do you bring that up
fourth, do you mention pricing??
Fifth, do you bring a girl along with you to help the introductions?
Sixty, do most girls go right with you or do you try and set up an appointment?
Seventh, what is it about the girl when you first see her that gives you the impression she would be interested?? or is it just having a thick skin??
eighth, have you had any experience with canadian girls? Im in toronto

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter_ST
Beware: Strip club girls often look a lot worse with the lights on -- I've had to retouch many an image of strippers for club websites. I often wonder if the girls wonder where the scars and stretch marks go when they get in front of my camera. :pimp

Sit under one of those little white spot lights and carry a phone that has a lighted display that you shine in her face for a better look and type in her number discreetly while you are at it & act like you are ordering her skinny ass a pizza if the manager catches you.

Sparks 03-21-2005 08:51 PM

I got a question.....

A good buddy of mine dated a stripper for about 2 years. They broke up, but are still really good friends. She has told us she has friends who are interested in doing porn....and these girls are hot.

1. How do we get them to commit?

2.Can I refer them to a content producer? I don't wanna fuck around with the laws and what not, but I know these girls could make decent money because I have met 3 of them who are interested

3. What is a good way to get them to commit to doing a shoot or a movie?

Thanks!

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy
did you not want to answer the questions I posted??

Dude, I'm answering them as fast as I can... lemme find your post...

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hostive
I got a question.....

A good buddy of mine dated a stripper for about 2 years. They broke up, but are still really good friends. She has told us she has friends who are interested in doing porn....and these girls are hot.

1. How do we get them to commit?

2.Can I refer them to a content producer? I don't wanna fuck around with the laws and what not, but I know these girls could make decent money because I have met 3 of them who are interested

3. What is a good way to get them to commit to doing a shoot or a movie?

Thanks!

ICQ me & I'll send you a finders fee ($200-$500)for each one that is hot enough based on your simple front, back, side, and face shots that you take in good light and with a flash.

infectd 03-21-2005 08:54 PM

Great thread, I always wondered about this myself. I dont think personally I have the charm to make it happen though.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-21-2005 09:01 PM

Some good info Peter. I too shoot original content, although I am nowhere near as prolific as you are.

As in any business, word of mouth is the best. Probably 50% of the models/performers that I have worked with came to me via referrals (I also offer a headhunter fee).

The most famous first-timer model that worked with me first was Annie Cruz. Annie e-mailed me after reading the "Models Wanted" section of my site.

Once you have booked a model, the single most important thing that I would emphasize is paperwork - make sure that you have a signed model release and that the first frame in your camera (still/video) is the model holding her ID proving her age.

With that said, if any of you know of any Asian models looking for work (softcore glamour up to hardcore), please e-mail me:

webmaster (AT) asiandivagirls.com

ADG Webmaster

BrettJ 03-21-2005 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
It's not launched or finished yet - this week we will finish it.


the only one of my questions you actually answered completely... was the one about the site launch... which was actually the one question i didn't really care that much about. thanks for wasting my time and yours.

beemk 03-21-2005 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrettJ
the only one of my questions you actually answered completely... was the one about the site launch... which was actually the one question i didn't really care that much about. thanks for wasting my time and yours.

read the part where he quoted you, he answered every question you asked but he typed it in the quote.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy
obvious question is first where do you find best to meet girls.

Strip Clubs.

secondly approaching the girls how do you bring up the topic without being slapped.

Don't be rude and you wont get slapped. Start slow man, nobody does an anal gang bang on thier first shoot... well, some do, but discuss details after they get to your office. remember, it's just an interview, nothing is expected - from you or her. Ask them to bring a friend if they would like... and this makes them even more comfortable to come by themselves funny as it seems. Always have other FEMALE MODELS, assistants, make-up artists around whenever posible - it's the international "''safe mode" that women speak to each other without talking.

third if you want them for lesbian content when during the conversation do you bring that up

Details in interview - see above.

fourth, do you mention pricing??

later - be patient.

Fifth, do you bring a girl along with you to help the introductions?

Oh yeah, absolutely, but I'm a smooth taker by myself too.

Sixty, do most girls go right with you or do you try and set up an appointment?

They come as soon as they are ready to make money. tell them that.

Seventh, what is it about the girl when you first see her that gives you the impression she would be interested?? or is it just having a thick skin??

Yes and no never killed you. Take a deep breath & read www.doubleyourdating.com if you wanna become an expert.

eighth, have you had any experience with canadian girls? Im in toronto

Nice pussy eh? Good stuff! Eh? That's a yes.

see above in ORANGE for answers

BrettJ 03-21-2005 09:15 PM

thanks. i caught that - but the answers weren't very complete.

It's nice when somebody offers up their time to respond to questions from a large group of people. and it's rather insane to try to answer them.

But if you open yourself up... you should try to give decent answers.

He said he was going to talk about model recruitment. I happen to own dormangels so I've done a little bit of it....but it's always cool to share some lessons and tips/tricks.

So I wanted to get a feel for how he does his model recruitment... word of mouth, ads, online scouting, etc.... asked for his %'s ... i was going to do a follow up ... once he told us all how he tends to find his models. and the answers were ...


% that you approach on the street. (100% of the ones interested)
% that respond to ads (he doesn't really advertise)
% that you solicit online/email (whenever i have time)
% that email you from your sites (a bunch, no real numbers)

those responses really didn't answer the questions asked... nor did they help anybody in figuring out what is a good use of time and a bad use of time for model recruiting... cept maybe you could infer that he doesn't like the results of print ads

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
Some good info Peter. I too shoot original content, although I am nowhere near as prolific as you are.

As in any business, word of mouth is the best. Probably 50% of the models/performers that I have worked with came to me via referrals (I also offer a headhunter fee).

The most famous first-timer model that worked with me first was Annie Cruz. Annie e-mailed me after reading the "Models Wanted" section of my site.

Once you have booked a model, the single most important thing that I would emphasize is paperwork - make sure that you have a signed model release and that the first frame in your camera (still/video) is the model holding her ID proving her age.

With that said, if any of you know of any Asian models looking for work (softcore glamour up to hardcore), please e-mail me:

webmaster (AT) asiandivagirls.com

ADG Webmaster

Will do! Annie is married to a friend of mine and I remember your pictures on her OMP profile - good stuff. She found my agency online & wrote to me, but I only had a land line number on her that she heard all my messages on months later after coming to LA. Funny how things work out. I'll send models if I can - put me on your ICQ list. Here's my phone number: 818-360-4352

Peter Romero

TheLegacy 03-21-2005 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
see above in ORANGE for answers


thank you.. very information.

I have always tried to avoid strip joints since from my experience working with flirt4free videosecrets and python - that those girls have a princess / ego problem and demand more attention plus $$

In the past I have found chat rooms and even face to face contact was best when I brought my girlfriend along.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrettJ
thanks. i caught that - but the answers weren't very complete.

It's nice when somebody offers up their time to respond to questions from a large group of people. and it's rather insane to try to answer them.

In times of need - I try to give but my ollady cooked some pop corn so, I'll get to more details when my hands are free.

But if you open yourself up... you should try to give decent answers.

Dude... I type with 2 fingers and I'm hammering the keyboard tonight - ICQ me for more details


He said he was going to talk about model recruitment. I happen to own dormangels so I've done a little bit of it....but it's always cool to share some lessons and tips/tricks.

You reap what you sow - I'm coming from a giving place here and trying to give all that I can. Call me on the phone I can talk 10 times faster than I type. 818-360-4352

So I wanted to get a feel for how he does his model recruitment... word of mouth, ads, online scouting, etc.... asked for his %'s ... i was going to do a follow up ... once he told us all how he tends to find his models. and the answers were ...

% that you approach on the street. (100% of the ones interested)
% that respond to ads (he doesn't really advertise)
% that you solicit online/email (whenever i have time)
% that email you from your sites (a bunch, no real numbers)

Scout 24-7 depending on what works best for you. There is no rule of thumb except that whenever you don't scout - you miss those girls as models 100% of the time.

those responses really didn't answer the questions asked... nor did they help anybody in figuring out what is a good use of time and a bad use of time for model recruiting... cept maybe you could infer that he doesn't like the results of print ads

Well... what can I say? Trying to please everyone is imposible, but I tried.

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy
thank you.. very information.

I have always tried to avoid strip joints since from my experience working with flirt4free videosecrets and python - that those girls have a princess / ego problem and demand more attention plus $$

In the past I have found chat rooms and even face to face contact was best when I brought my girlfriend along.

And you got alot of models from me - just ask Rob.

Rice_Master 03-21-2005 09:36 PM

POV GUY... i'm just curious about this statement...

"Ember - I found her in a Trailer Park where I shoulda left her."

can you elaborate?

Peter Romero 03-21-2005 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rice_Master
POV GUY... i'm just curious about this statement...

"Ember - I found her in a Trailer Park where I shoulda left her."

can you elaborate?

I'm trying to forget her but she was a good find. Actually ALS Scan refered her to me for refering them so many hot models over the years - about 75 or so. Ember is crazy - just ask anyone who ever met her - PURE EVIL!!!

Rice_Master 03-21-2005 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
I'm trying to forget her but she was a good find. Actually ALS Scan refered her to me for refering them so many hot models over the years - about 75 or so. Ember is crazy - just ask anyone who ever met her - PURE EVIL!!!

how so?

this is just out of curiosity... she seems like an angel. :)

shuki 03-21-2005 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy
I'm trying to forget her but she was a good find. Actually ALS Scan refered her to me for refering them so many hot models over the years - about 75 or so. Ember is crazy - just ask anyone who ever met her - PURE EVIL!!!


Can't you tell we want more details...we are the gossip board after all :winkwink:


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