50 scouting questions answered........

I brought her to Vegas and got her started in the biz in LA.

By the way, good thread Peter.
:winkwink:

And I have a question. You really didnt find Ember in a trailer park you found her in a strip club in Vegas right?

Does that double your dating thing really provide some good tips?

Thanks Peter.

Lots of referrals come in from other photographers and vice versa.

Yeah, Annie got married to Jack Lawrence at the AVN show in Vegas in January. Annie and Jack really fell head over heels for each other. I'm happy for her.

Cheers,

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very nice.
i dont have q =)

Save your time and energy "scouting" -lol. Just go to One Model Place....

http://www.onemodelplace.com

Check out My Site - www.AdultxModels.com - We work just like OMP but only for Adult Work.

Als Scan sent her to me - and then I blew her up: Hustler, Barely Legal Video, Genesis Magazine cover & centerfold, Buncha mags, sites, videos etc. But I had to call the cops on her for pulling a knife on 2 of my models & breaking into my office. She had some idiot sending e-mails everywhere saying that she was underage to get her content off the net but I don't know if anyone was STUPID ENOUGH to fall for that crap as I've seen her school yearbook & got her a passport at the LA Office in West LA. Trust me, she's a phsycho bitch from hell. She calls me crying sorry every once in a while, but I don't buy it.

Only as a fun hobby. Don't take that place seriously. A sea of BS.

Actually I brought Annie to Vegas with me in January 2004 and introduced her to lots of people, so maybe we met there.

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/annie-cruz-vegas.jpg

Are/were you with ModelGig/Limelight?

I know she went back out to Las Vegas and did some stuff with Limelight before heading to LA, where she had some not so good experiences with some people before finally landing on her feet and building a pretty good career for herself so far (closing in on 100 scenes last I checked).

Please e-mail me if you think there is anyway we can mutually benefit each other. I don't buy content, but if you ever refer models, I'm always on the lookout (have to be Asian though, LOL). I know of models looking for work, although probably most of the ones you don't know already mostly do softcore/glam stuff and they live here in the San Francisco Bay Area.

Check my site...I have 60+ models posted so far (plus dozens more to post).

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This thread is for finding new girls not hiring from an agency.

Is my pass still working? I want to rub one out.

one before i crash

I'llmake you a new one - ICQ

Intresting thread :thumbsup

I've hired several models from OMP. In most cases I was the first photographer to pay them.

A problem I have noticed with OMP is that there are so many fake photographers trolling there with "test shoot" and TFP scams that many models quit after a few/several bad experiences.

As soon as a model with any decent looks posts her portfolio on OMP she is deluged with e-mails. The main thing I have going for me to stand out from the pack is that I can point them to my web site and show them right away that they will make money with me.

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should submit them to http://xposedmodels.com free online dir.

We are in no way an agency, we are like OMP you place bookings to the models. We do work with producers from time to time who contact us to find specific models for them, but other then that we do not work like an agency.

Just wanted to clear that up.

I agree with you 100% except they wont let me link any of my sites to my profile and some idiot from So-Cal Pro Models is a hater of the adult industry and he is buddy buddy with the owner of OMP ad kicked me, Robert Fererah and many others off for scouting for actual paid legitimate PUBLISHED jobs to make way for his test TFP bullshit.

nothing about Luna? :Oh crap

Yeah, well that may be the case, but I'm trying to help people find brand spankin new girls that never shot before.

Best way to get models is to put adverts out by the local unemployment agency when girls are going in to pick up there unemployment benefits. Better still actually go down there is person. 1 in 4 will do hardcore for you.

Found her in a strip club in Oregon bruised & badly beaten by her boyfriend and had to tan her & rehabilitate her for a week before we could actually get a good shot of her. One of the hottest I found yet. Post a picture from your collection.

I do the same, i go out and scout for talent just like you. We are always bringing new talent to the site. We are here for both amateurs and professionals.

No wonder I never booked anything through So-Cal Pro Models even though I e-mailed them several times.

It sucks that OMP discontinued links to adults sites too, while they let all these fake ass photographers post links to their free hosted sites and con models into working (and getting hit on) for free.

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all my Luna Lane pix are gone, had to wipe out a hard drive after a bad spyware infestation. i know where to get some nice ones tho,

http://www.ddgirls.com

Or Jordan - your other favorite...
http://povcash.com/hosted/Jordan/15.jpg

Found her working as a waitress in an AZ strip club. She drove out to LA once and couldn't dial my number from her cell and drove back home. Then she kept my card for a year and called me outta the blue one day. I have the only hardcore boy/girl of her. 3 shoots all in a row - I couldn't last too long with her in one sitting.

I agree, I have worked through OMP for years, since it was free, and never had a problem, but now they have been getting bad and hassling me more and more. they used to let me link to my site, but have now cut the link.

Ex fuckin xactly!!! It should be called one hobby place - for all the wanna be's on there.

Well now... we wouldn't want models actually getting paid shoots and leaving OMP and it's self praise now would we? That would be bad for a site that preys upon naiveity of your girls & thier asperations of being a art nude model from joe shmo from Idaho with no clue, skills or dough... now would we?Hmmm....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I will not tell you why that statement is funny.......but they should change it to either-

OneFlakePlace.com or OneAgentPlace.com


Since there are few real models who dont demand everthing upfront or are Agents/Managers posing as models. :2 cents:

Good one. how bout one poseur place? Or, one wannabe place? or one beggar place? Or, one million models in one place?

you just named about 99% of the girls and producers on OMP.

lol
Duke

This thread keeps getting better & better.

Do you bad mouth other producers to models to gain repore with them?
do you feel like you have to be captain save a hoe? Or you could care less that her rent is due, her bird died and her tuition is over due and she might be pregnant and the various other top 10 excuses they all have.

My main questions are what do you do with them once you have them. Do you ever film them for extreme porn? Do you pay by the day or by the hour? Finding them is relativley easy.

Duke

Am i right or am i right :)

Duke

Yeah, I started Modelgig.com 3 yrs ago. That idiot Chris from Limelight and I flew her in, I then hooked her up with an agent in LA where she didnt have great experiences, but she is a sweet girl and has talked to me a few times since. I am glad she found a great guy.

Send em packin ASAP before they start changing the furniture around and stealing your shit. Better yet, check em into a hide-away hotel & never let them even see your nieghborhood. drive diferent ways to the studio every time & do a bunch of u-turns. Watch out for the boyfriend coming to "surprise her" on a shoot day & wants to stand behind the photographer whilst they coo encoragement to each other... and come back later to steal your equipment cause you don't deserve it cause only HE is going to make her a star!!! Happened to me a couple of times till I got smart.

What do you pay your models for the different shoots?

As little as posible while still employing the "Wow" factor.

Would you like a job in my office. We are growing fast

i watch so little hardcore porn it's not funny - just bores me. but the scene with Jordan was a turn on - no not cuz you Roy! because you could tell this was a real first time thing for that cutie. Brian shot her for Lightspeed, ATK, hmmm....... think a couple of other customers.

A Few Thoughts On Talent In The Adult Biz
 

I shoot hardcore, but not "extreme porn" as some call it. I try to create erotic content that women or couples can enjoy (not just men).

Many of us in the adult industry are independents. Thanks to digital technology and the internet, if you have a certain degree of technical knowledge, time and money to invest, and most importantly business savvy, you can make a good living as a producer in the adult industry.

Since I am an independent, and do not film extreme porn, I sometimes find myself at odds with some folks in the adult industry, particularly when it comes to the treatment of talent. Therefore, I would like to say a few words on this.

Annie Cruz has been mentioned several times in this thread, I'll use her as a case in point.

Annie came to me soon after turning 18, and as with all models, I asked her what her limits were (I never ask models to do anything they are uncomfortable with). At that time she said she would do up to girl/girl. So we got to work and I shot several (10+) projects with Annie over a few month span, eventually including some B/G and B/G/G scenes, since by that time Annie indicated she wanted to go further.

I genuinely try to give new models starting out good advice (control their content as much as possible, start their own pay site, etc - I have one model making money years after she stopped modeling).

I'm not an agent, nor do I ever want to be, but I do feel a certain degree of empathy with people in general, so I try to be helpful particularly to those whom my business depends upon.

Honestly, on the whole I feel like the talent is treated pretty poorly in the adult industry, so I warned Annie about some of the pitfalls of the industry.

Nonetheless, as soon as Annie hit LA, the first thing she was thrown into was the most extreme kind of content - anal, internal cumshots, DPs, gangbangs, etc.

In an industry that treats much of the talent as disposable, there seems to be a desire to force people into the most extreme acts as soon as possible, simply so the producer can make a quick buck.

Once the model has done a certain type of extreme act, it is hard for them to decline with the next producer. I feel many of these type of producers have little concern about the immediate, let alone longterm, well-being of the performers.

In fairness to those who Annie dealt with upon arriving in LA, she had an idea of what she was getting into, and walked into it wide-eyed, really wanting to become a porn star.

What some of you may not know is that Annie was one of the people that was exposed in the adult industry AIDS outbreak that occured last year.

Even though had she followed my advice, this would not have occured, I did not turn my back on her, but instead cried my eyes out with her on the phone upon learning of her situation.

Fortunately Annie's HIV tests came back negative. She subsequently got back into the adult industry. She's still a wild woman but much more careful than she was before.

Especially after my experience with Annie, I feel an obligation to tell models how they can maximize their earnings potential, and to be wary of some people in the industry who may not have their best interest at heart.

Ultimately in an industry of independent contractors, models/performers have to make and live with their own decisions. I realize that some of the talent is less than honorable too...I was taken for several thousand dollars by the first model I worked with, and I even recently had a solo site model bail on me after I paid for her $5,000 boob job, but I'll make my money back.

I'm happy to say that I have had mostly positive experiences with models/performers, and consider many of them friends. It may have a little to do with my niche, but I like to also feel it has something to deal with mutual respect.

First and foremost, I take a business approach since this is a business. Beyond that though, I like to be able to look in the mirror and be able to live with myself knowing that I try hard to be honest and fair with all whom I deal with, and that I treat people in the manner I would like to be treated if I were in their position.

Sorry for rambling on a bit...just my :2 cents:

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Hhmmm... only as a partner. Me & few friends have been throwing around some ideas about starting up another agency... you know my numbers - let's do lunch - babe!

She was a very horney girl... see her clit get HUGE every time it got agitated? That was totally real! First timer? try only-timer. My fiance jerks it to that scene all the time.

Why would you help destroy a girl's looks by paying for a boob job? I really cannot stand Asian girls with fake funbags. Francine Dee is a perfect example of a hot girl who fucked herself up and now has nips on the top of her breasts.

Hey POV guy....do you shoot exclusive content for other people? Or just for your own sites?

Sure. I have given some magazine layouts a try lately and I shoot for Swank video, Hustler - 2 series, and 3 sites for Lensman (www.girlshuntinggirls.com, www.teenhitchhikers.com & www.bigsausagepizza.com ). I used to shoot a bunch of stuff for www.Tushylickers.com & www.badtushy.com and I work on my sites alot. What do you need? ICQ me - I'm going to bed. I'm just up because Fear Factor made me wanna puke & I had to get my mind off eating maggot cheese.

Do you star in any films/pics?

Greg, for the record, I did not advise the model in question to get a boob job, nor have I ever advised any model to do that. Just the opposite, I strongly opposed it.

However, once it was clear that she had decided to go ahead with the procedure, I made sure that she was fully informed about the pros and cons, and I even attended the pre-op consultations with her to make sure she knew exactly what she was getting into, since she (not I) would have to live with her decision.

Personally, I prefer to see women with natural breasts. I can spot implants in an instant. Incidentally, I do not think that implants enhanced the look of this model one iota. I did pay for the procedure however as an advance for future exclusive work with me.

As to other models, even though I can tell when they have implants, some I think look quite fine anyway, although I would probably consider them equally good looking without them (Akira Lane, Mika Tan, Kat Guiterrez, etc).

Finally, I consider Francine Dee to be one of the most beautiful models on the planet. Her large breasts are instantly recognizable, but she has a lot more than that going for her, such as a gorgeous face and tight killer body (Francine is probably the most in shape, fit models, I have ever worked with - she really takes care of herself).

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