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Fake Nick 12-11-2004 04:39 AM

virgin mary mother of Jezus was 13 years old when she was pregnant
 
why dont I see any outrage about that ? but I do see outrage about the fact that the prophet Mohamed did that exact same thing ?


virgin mary was fucked when she was only 13 by Joseph who was in his early 30's

they weren't even married

Manowar 12-11-2004 04:43 AM

the bible is fiction :glugglug

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 04:52 AM

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Originally posted by Manowar
the bible is fiction :glugglug

true , it is in large parts ,


but Jezus did really exist and his mother really was pregnant at age 13



Jezus was btw a so called towelhead or sand niggar , he lived in the desert and moved from city to city , he wasnt white, he also wans't an arab but did look exactly the same as todays arabs yet everywhere dumb white folks portray him as a white man

wich of course is not realistic if you see where he is from

The_Oracle_Porn 12-11-2004 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
why dont I see any outrage about that ? but I do see outrage about the fact that the prophet Mohamed did that exact same thing ?


virgin mary was fucked when she was only 13 by Joseph who was in his early 30's

they weren't even married

Bullshit.
You're making this up.

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by The_Oracle_Porn
Bullshit.
You're making this up.


sadly I am not , I saw a two part documentary that was made by harvard professors who specialised in this subject

The_Oracle_Porn 12-11-2004 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
sadly I am not , I saw a two part documentary that was made by harvard professors who specialised in this subject
Then he was making it up.
How did he know she was 13 ?

Besides, Jesus was concieved by God, not Joseph.

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 04:57 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religi...ies/mary.shtml


the documentary is about Mary Magdalena a girlfriend of Jezus , in this synopsis nothing is mentioned about this, but they do mention it in the documentary itself


speaking are harvard professors who did a lot of research on this

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by The_Oracle_Porn
Then he was making it up.
How did he know she was 13 ?

Besides, Jesus was concieved by God, not Joseph.


that are stories made up becasue in that time when you got pregnant without being married you were killed, this way being conceived by god you dont need to be married , that is how they explain in it in the documentary

Odin88 12-11-2004 05:02 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
true , it is in large parts ,


but Jezus did really exist and his mother really was pregnant at age 13



Jezus was btw a so called towelhead or sand niggar , he lived in the desert and moved from city to city , he wasnt white, he also wans't an arab but did look exactly the same as todays arabs yet everywhere dumb white folks portray him as a white man

wich of course is not realistic if you see where he is from

You do realise that just about every race displays God, Jesus, etc in their own image. Asians are an excellent example of this. You might want to settle down and stop the self-hate.

JFK 12-11-2004 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
that are stories made up becasue in that time when you got pregnant without being married you were killed, this way being conceived by god you dont need to be married , that is how they explain in it in the documentary
I guess a "FEW" people actually believed the story huh ??:Graucho
What a bunch of saps :1orglaugh

kmanrox 12-11-2004 05:07 AM

that's CP!!!!!!!

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88
You do realise that just about every race displays God, Jesus, etc in their own image. Asians are an excellent example of this. You might want to settle down and stop the self-hate.


huh ? ? wtf are you talking about ? this has nothing to do whit how someone portrays Jezus and god but has everything to do with how things went down


Why should I doubt the words of serveral professors of Harvard that teach there on this subject ? ?

Furious_Female 12-11-2004 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
true , it is in large parts ,


but Jezus did really exist and his mother really was pregnant at age 13



Jezus was btw a so called towelhead or sand niggar , he lived in the desert and moved from city to city , he wasnt white, he also wans't an arab but did look exactly the same as todays arabs yet everywhere dumb white folks portray him as a white man

wich of course is not realistic if you see where he is from

This is true! I saw something on the Discovery channel about this. They created a bust of what Jesus would actually look like. He was very tan from being in the desert sun, dark hair, dark eyes and a VERY different shaped skull, nose etc.

I don't know who started portraying Jesus as a clean shaven white man with a beard (and sometimes blue eyes), but Jesus was Jewish, dark skinned and not even close to looking like what some people believe.

Just further proof that 1-) The Bible has been altered/translated and rewritten so many times, you cannot believe most of it. 2-) Organized religion is evil and brainwashes people. All these different versions of God and even Jesus... it's all made up and/or changed as we go along. I believe Jesus did exist. Son of God? I am really not sure. I can't prove he was or wasn't. I believe in God or a higher being... but I do not live by the word of humans and their fabricated stories.

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 05:37 AM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female
This is true! I saw something on the Discovery channel about this. They created a bust of what Jesus would actually look like. He was very tan from being in the desert sun, dark hair, dark eyes and a VERY different shaped skull, nose etc.

I don't know who started portraying Jesus as a clean shaven white man with a beard (and sometimes blue eyes), but Jesus was Jewish, dark skinned and not even close to looking like what some people believe.

Just further proof that 1-) The Bible has been altered/translated and rewritten so many times, you cannot believe most of it. 2-) Organized religion is evil and brainwashes people. All these different versions of God and even Jesus... it's all made up and/or changed as we go along. I believe Jesus did exist. Son of God? I am really not sure. I can't prove he was or wasn't. I believe in God or a higher being... but I do not live by the word of humans and their fabricated stories.



yeah Religion is evil I agree , they only think about putting money in their pockets through mass deception

Odin 12-11-2004 05:40 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
yeah Religion is evil I agree , they only think about putting money in their pockets through mass deception
Sounds like the Adult Industry.

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 05:45 AM

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Originally posted by Chief
Sounds like the Adult Industry.
true , but we are open about this and dont claim to be god sent

DeadFidel 12-11-2004 05:48 AM

"clean shaven white man with a beard" ??

Plus it was an Immaculate Conception, so there was no sex idiots! (not you FF)

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by DeadFidel
"clean shaven white man with a beard" ??

Plus it was an Immaculate Conception, so there was no sex idiots! (not you FF)



read the thread dummy ,

it is explained in the documentary why they made that story up ........

The_Oracle_Porn 12-11-2004 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
yeah Religion is evil I agree , they only think about putting money in their pockets through mass deception
It also keeps hundreds of millions of people from commiting crime, by following the 10 ammendmends.

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by The_Oracle_Porn
It also keeps hundreds of millions of people from commiting crime, by following the 10 ammendmends.


huh ? ? what are you talking about ? ?


so all these priests raping lil boys is a hoax ?? entire church organisations are not filing bankruptcy because of large settlements they have to pay ???

DeadFidel 12-11-2004 06:06 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
read the thread dummy ,

it is explained in the documentary why they made that story up ........

You didn't mention any documentary in your original post. I am truly sorry for my out of line statement.:(

DeadFidel 12-11-2004 06:07 AM

....oh I almost forgot; if you ever call me dumb again I will hunt you down and rip your heart of your chest and show it to you before you fall. I am not battuss.

StuartD 12-11-2004 06:12 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
virgin mary was fucked when she was only 13 by Joseph who was in his early 30's
Ok, I'm not a religious guy... but even I am confused by this one...

'virgin mary was fucked' just doesn't make sense... the title "virgin" isn't given to sluts.

'by Joseph who'... uhmm.. son of God.... mother virgin mary... making Joseph the step dad.

Furious_Female 12-11-2004 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by DeadFidel
"clean shaven white man with a beard" ??

Plus it was an Immaculate Conception, so there was no sex idiots! (not you FF)

Sorry I forgot to put "or" clean shaven or man with a beard. I have seen pics of Jesus without a beard.

The_Oracle_Porn 12-11-2004 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
huh ? ? what are you talking about ? ?


so all these priests raping lil boys is a hoax ?? entire church organisations are not filing bankruptcy because of large settlements they have to pay ???

What does it have to do with millions of people following the 10 ammendments and not commiting crimes ?

So some priests get charged. It's a very small percentage to generalise. And it only happened in Catholic church. (there are other religions out there, that are much bigger that Catholics)

TheFrog 12-11-2004 06:22 AM

religious thread :helpme

XxXotic 12-11-2004 06:27 AM

considering the max life expectancy of the time was like 30-40 years old, 13 at that time was considered middle aged. Hell, until the early to mid 1900's a LOT of females were pregnant/married before they were even 15. As life expectancy got longer our need for having children in a hurry died down and wasn't as necessary as it was in the past

:2 cents:

The_Oracle_Porn 12-11-2004 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by TheFrog
religious thread :helpme
Yes. 14 y/o morons like you should go back to jerking off to your sister panties.

klinton 12-11-2004 06:41 AM

let it be, let it be.

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
considering the max life expectancy of the time was like 30-40 years old, 13 at that time was considered middle aged. Hell, until the early to mid 1900's a LOT of females were pregnant/married before they were even 15. As life expectancy got longer our need for having children in a hurry died down and wasn't as necessary as it was in the past

:2 cents:


same goes for mohamed and his bride yet people like to marginalise him as child molester

XxXotic 12-11-2004 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
same goes for mohamed and his bride yet people like to marginalise him as child molester
i did nothing of the sort, it's not my fault 93% of the people here are uneducated morons who would believe elvis was jesus if you told them so.. :winkwink:

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
i did nothing of the sort, it's not my fault 93% of the people here are uneducated morons who would believe elvis was jesus if you told them so.. :winkwink:


huh ? he wasnt ? :winkwink:

XxXotic 12-11-2004 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
huh ? he wasnt ? :winkwink:
:1orglaugh no, elvis was an alien. they werent lying in MIB :Graucho

NickPapageorgio 12-11-2004 08:08 AM

Jesus is my homeboy...

Scootermuze 12-11-2004 08:18 AM

The earlier manuscripts refered to Mary as Amah.. not virgin...

Amah basically meant -young woman- and young women were assumed to be virgins, so amah was replaced with virgin which made the Mary deal something other than what it probably was...

psili 12-11-2004 08:32 AM

One of my favorite quotes:

"Religion is the invention of failures" - Bukowski.

But on to the topic of the thread:

Weren't young teenage girls expected to be mothers back then because people only usually lived to the ripe age of 30-40 years old ? What's all this, "OMG, she was 13" crap?

If life expectancy suddenly dropped to what is was in those ages, you bet your ass young teenage girls would be mothers again. It's survival. Nothing more, nothing less, in this case.

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by psili
One of my favorite quotes:

"Religion is the invention of failures" - Bukowski.

But on to the topic of the thread:

Weren't young teenage girls expected to be mothers back then because people only usually lived to the ripe age of 30-40 years old ? What's all this, "OMG, she was 13" crap?

If life expectancy suddenly dropped to what is was in those ages, you bet your ass young teenage girls would be mothers again. It's survival. Nothing more, nothing less, in this case.


this thread is not pointed to people like you who obviously have brains , but rather to the ignorant people calling the prophet mohamed a child molestor for having an 13 year old wife ..........

steffie 12-11-2004 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
sadly I am not , I saw a two part documentary that was made by harvard professors who specialised in this subject
I also saw the same thing, "The true life of Mary" It was very interesting and I believe that. It was a different time.

Watch a more recent movie (It comes with undertitle) called "Osama" the story about a 12 year old girl in Afganistan and it was filmed last year. Its an independent film from and Afgany film Maker. It was extremly interesting and should be watched by all Americans

lazycash 12-11-2004 08:41 AM

You might want to study the times, 2000 years ago it was common for 12-15 yr old females to get pregnant as long as it was within wedlock. Also, the virgin birth and immaculate conception are at the very core of the Christian faith, without that the belief wouldn't exist.

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by lazycash
You might want to study the times, 2000 years ago it was common for 12-15 yr old females to get pregnant as long as it was within wedlock. Also, the virgin birth and immaculate conception are at the very core of the Christian faith, without that the belief wouldn't exist.


obviously that isn't true, Mary was pregnant OUTSIDE wedlock and she did in fact have sex with Joseph



wel that is what some Harvard professors were claiming at least , but hey you probably have studied this in depth and not like those clowns from harvard who probably got their info from the passion of the christ with mel gibson .....

lazycash 12-11-2004 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
obviously that isn't true, Mary was pregnant OUTSIDE wedlock and she did in fact have sex with Joseph



wel that is what some Harvard professors were claiming at least , but hey you probably have studied this in depth and not like those clowns from harvard who probably got their info from the passion of the christ with mel gibson .....

Obviously? Any historical evidence detailing Christ's birth comes from the Bible, if you don't believe in that then whats the point in discussing Jesus and Mary. You are correct that Mary was pregnant out of wedlock according to Biblical accounts in the Gospels. So you choose to believe the part of the Biblical account of Jesus birth that you are comfortable with, (her being out of wedlock, 13 and pregnant), but not the fact that she was immaculately conceived.

JFK 12-11-2004 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
yeah Religion is evil I agree , they only think about putting money in their pockets through mass deception
Did you ever see the movie LUTHER ?

JFK 12-11-2004 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze
The earlier manuscripts refered to Mary as Amah.. not virgin...

Amah basically meant -young woman- and young women were assumed to be virgins, so amah was replaced with virgin which made the Mary deal something other than what it probably was...

This is what happens when you tell and retell stories, everyone just adds a little something, so by the time its told the 10th time its nothing like the original:2 cents:

Yngwie 12-11-2004 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by The_Oracle_Porn
What does it have to do with millions of people following the 10 ammendments and not commiting crimes ?

So some priests get charged. It's a very small percentage to generalise. And it only happened in Catholic church. (there are other religions out there, that are much bigger that Catholics)

10 ammendments eh?.. guess religious has fried your brain..


10 COMANDMENTS!

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash
Obviously? Any historical evidence detailing Christ's birth comes from the Bible, if you don't believe in that then whats the point in discussing Jesus and Mary. You are correct that Mary was pregnant out of wedlock according to Biblical accounts in the Gospels. So you choose to believe the part of the Biblical account of Jesus birth that you are comfortable with, (her being out of wedlock, 13 and pregnant), but not the fact that she was immaculately conceived.

Lazycash , you are just that lazy ,

you have a / not seen this documentary b / not bothered to click the link about it ,

if you did you would have read this on the bbc site

Quote:

But the Bible isn't the only source. In 1945, at Nag Hammadi in southern Egypt, two men came across a sealed ceramic jar. Inside, they discovered a hoard of ancient papyrus books. Although they never received as much public attention as the Dead Sea Scrolls, these actually turn out to be much more important for writing the history of early Christianity. They are a cache of Christian texts. The Nag Hammadi texts tell us about early Christians. They were written in Coptic, the language of early Christian Egypt. As most ancient Christian texts have been lost, this discovery was exceptional. The discovery includes the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip and the Acts of Peter. None of these texts were included in the Bible, because the content didn't conform to Christian doctrine, and they're referred to as apocryphal. They tend to concentrate on things that one doesn't read about in the Bible. For example, New Testament gospels says after the resurrection Jesus spent some time talking with the disciples, but you don't learn much about what he said. In the gospels of Nag Hammadi you can read what he said.

in other words the bible is not the only source for info

MetaMan 12-11-2004 10:07 AM

the average lifespan back then was much much smaller, like 35 max, this is why girls had children at a very young age, nothing weird going on.

The_Oracle_Porn 12-11-2004 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by Yngwie
10 ammendments eh?.. guess religious has fried your brain..


10 COMANDMENTS!

Ohhh !! You got me !! Damn !


I got tired from building sites all day while you've been sitting on your ass, scratching balls.

Yngwie 12-11-2004 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by The_Oracle_Porn
Ohhh !! You got me !! Damn !


I got tired from building sites all day while you've been sitting on your ass, scratching balls.

glad you think that's what I've been doing. I've been up since 5am working and will be for bit longer. what you think means shit to me

lazycash 12-11-2004 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
Lazycash , you are just that lazy ,

you have a / not seen this documentary b / not bothered to click the link about it ,

if you did you would have read this on the bbc site




in other words the bible is not the only source for info


Ugh, do you even bother reading what I wrote. I'm fully aware of the other historical documents outside the Bible that detail Christ's life, I've read most of them. I said the Bible was the only historical evidence we have that details Christ birth, specificallly the details surrounding Mary's conception and Jesus birth. I have seen the documentary the link is referring to.

You have based this whole thread referring to questions about Jesus' mother Mary, when the documentary was all about Mary Magdalene, somebody completely different. You continue to elude to your belief that Mary was physically impregnated, when the Bible does not say that at all, since there is no other writings detailing her conception your just speculating.

Again, the answer to your original question is no there was no outrage at her conception at that time because she was within normal age and no she was not murdered because God laid out a path to ensure the safety of her and the birth of his Son.

Rantan 12-11-2004 01:42 PM

that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard...we dont have the same standards as they had back then.

as soon as you can fuck..you're ok to fuck..why do you think jews become 'men' at age 13?


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