100 naughty sponsors

you know if they had told people they were going to do this maybe they could have avoided this

but to sneak around and do it retroactivly is just wrong


joee burned me on another deal so in looking back im glad the deal didnt work out as I would have been a partner and responsible for shit like this

I wouldnt want to be associated to anyone like this

sad

I use to stand up for the guy and have respect for him

No more

screw me once shame on you

screw me twice shame on me

Guess I only have myself to blame

Agree with you 100% on just about everything you've said in this thread. But then this industry rarely surprises me any more.

A few years back I used to spend a lot of time dealing with the Far East both by phone and face to face, flying over there. Until I moved into porn I used to think many over there were unethical and often just plain crooks. They have nothing on the porn industry.

people are people all over the world


and this is no different

Sure. However some races/cultures (and I'm generlising here obviously) will screw you more given the chance than others. You have to adapt with how you deal with each accordingly.

For various reasons though online porn tries hard to screw people more than most other businesses. It happens everywhere but porn seems to have mastered the art.

Tipsy, I was in Export from the US for 25 yrs and did much business in Middle East and Far East... All our prices had to be adjusted upward to make up for all the cheating and changed deals that happened once good were shipped and before they would be accepted once they got in port..

You are right, porn is getting too much like that, so sorry, so true:321GFY

Hank

you and I were just discussing that in prague

what really dissapoints me is getting ripped off By a "friend"

someone I sit and eat with or drink with

to get ripped by a stranger is almost expected in this business

But when its someone you know

That really burns my ass

:feels-hot

I sent you an ICQ :)

Another sponsor to cross off the "send traffic" list?

Forest, cry me a river. Your "deal" with JoeE had nothing to do with IceColdCash did it? Start your own thread....

Brad

My deal was for privatefriends.com which is owned by ice

so yes it was with Ice negotiated thru joee

and I have MONTHS of bs e-mails from joe

Brad

have you seen the money he owes you?

do u think you will

I am will to bet the money he owes you that You might

But the others Will Not

that list gets smaller and smaller doesnt it

Sic cash

purecash

fetishbucks

3 good honest sponsor

even if brad doesnt like me

:thumbsup

:glugglug

Where you get that list from :winkwink:

PD

how did I ever forget you man

MY BAD! Must be the Ukrainian women and vodka :1orglaugh :Graucho

and of course Platinum Bucks!

:thumbsup

Don't forget Traffic Cash Gold :)

If you say so :thumbsup

I dont know anyone there personaly


all i know is the history there with jb and joe

Guess brad wants to hold onto his money

smart move

:thumbsup

G'nite all

late here in the Ukraine

well late by my old man standards

:1orglaugh

They changed my account to revshare as well....fucking bastards....

And I still haven't received a check from them :BangBang:

I spoke to Joe today. Although I do not agree with turning accounts into rev share, I understand he has to do what he has to do to pull his biz through. I have no doubt Joe will make good on any monies owed me.

Are you saying there's something wrong with those 3 sponsors?

so your not taking my bet then

Wait, I'm not exactly how to read a whois record... Who owns privatefriends.com?

Cuz it looks an awful lot like my lawyer in Seattle...

;)

pf is part of ice's networks of sites

if joe doesnt actually own the domain he has rights to build and market it

and the only dealings i have had about pf have been with eithr Joe or his do boy voodooman

:thumbsup

Registrant:
INDIVIDUAL
4515 GREENWOOD AVE NORTH #303
N/A
SEATTLE, WA 98103
US

Domain name: PRIVATEFRIENDS.COM

Administrative Contact:
MOORE, JEFFREY [email protected]
4515 GREENWOOD AVE NORTH #303
N/A
SEATTLE, WA 98103
US
2067813788
Technical Contact:
MOORE, JEFFREY [email protected]
4515 GREENWOOD AVE NORTH #303
N/A
SEATTLE, WA 98103
US
2067813788


Registration Service Provider:
Domain Name Systems as low as $10 domain name registrations
http://www.domainnamesystems.com
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 21-Feb-2003.
Record expires on 29-May-2004.
Record Created on 30-May-1998.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.ICEINCORPORATED.COM 69.20.29.192
NS2.ICEINCORPORATED.COM 69.20.29.192


Notice the dns info

ya.. the same people that told me "yes we allow opt in mailing" "mail more " 1 week check don't come and they say it will come next week, then next week no check comes they say it will come next week then they just plain out killed my account and ignored me. this was 2 - 3 years ago but i don't forget!

Yeah I know the DNS info. But I think you missed the statement above - it is listed as MY lawyer. You could ask Joe the Private Friends history if you'd like, it's quite amusing.

LOL

sorry mike gotcha

still sick and recovering from the prague show

ive heard enough from joee for this week

2-3 years ago sounds like Joe E had his hands in it. Blame him lol They've paid me and others every week for a long time :)

JB and Joee had it then

yeah :glugglug

Now that's a bump from the past!

not that long ago

and the forest/ joee saga is just heating up i think

:Graucho

just thought i share the reason no one from ICE is posting in this thread

Brad,

U get your money yet?

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hey forest you got an icq# ? if so add me...my number is icq # 34726506

hey let that ICE thread die out..cause joe doesn't want us posting on any of the boards...

thanx bro...........

beavis,

Allen (Beavis) Timm
www.icecoldcash.com
Phone: (954) 564-2423
[email protected]
ICQ: 34726506

bump

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Man. That's funny.

bump this bitch
JoeE should sell his house to pay what he owes webmasters

damn i Just bookmarked em today to take a look at thier stuff

i got a spam from them yesterday and had to laugh. a friend of mine has been trying to get paid by them for months now. i've read all the icq logs - sounded a lot like what i read on this thread, and lot like the spam email i got, too.

his icecold rep keep telling him to send more traffic and then they'll pay him. also they changed him to partnership and of course he hasn't received dime one for rebills yet. at the moment, i believe they are 8 weeks late sending him anything at all.

maybe if voodooman stopped cruising in the ferrari the gas payments would be lower and he could afford to pay some of you

Brad

any word on the 3k?

its to bad cause he has one or 2 good people over there

sad they have to work like that

Dayum Forest...

You been busy...:Graucho

Don't do that...I'm waiting for him to throw another party next year in Florida...My mouth is watering just thinking about that grilled chicken the caterers served...It was some of the most tender yet fully charred chicken I've ever tasted...ummm ummmm

That was some good fucking chicken!

30k on a party

all webmaster payouts turned to rev share

see a problem here?

:helpme

I hope Joe learns an xbox is sufficient these days..

Mike

hot me up when u get a sec

118156620

revforest at hotmail dot com

Well that's funny, cuz they post frequently on O*pran*o

kirk does

but he doesnt want to get beat up over here