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Rochard 11-07-2012 09:28 AM

So does Minte have to pay more taxes now?
 
I wonder how Minte is feeling this morning - You know, after he expanded his business while Obama is in office.

Rochard 11-07-2012 09:28 AM

And Minte ,shoot me an email at rochard at gmail dot com please.

B.Barnato 11-07-2012 09:31 AM

I hope so.

MaDalton 11-07-2012 09:33 AM

i would only hope this bullshit stops now and everyone starts pulling in the same direction...

suesheboy 11-07-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19300131)
i would only hope this bullshit stops now and everyone starts pulling in the same direction...

That's all I want.

Minte 11-07-2012 09:38 AM

America has spoken..

Clearly I don't like or respect what they said. But it is what it is.

I do feel for the generations coming up though. Work hard, graduate from college with enormous debt only to not find a job. Or if they do, probably not one that is going to pay well.

If the country is morphing to a nannie state then all I can say is I was lucky to be alive in the 60's and have an opportunity to build and grow a business. The changes today in society are not ones I would ever choose for anyone.

In a couple of hundred years, assuming there still is a human race I imagine that they will look at the US dynasty that existed for about 60 years and look to this period of time as about when it ended.
Nothing lasts forever!

My only comment on paying more tax is..you were right all the time. I will certainly pay more, but at the end of the day it won't make a bit of difference to my lifestyle.

Rochard 11-07-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19300131)
i would only hope this bullshit stops now and everyone starts pulling in the same direction...

I am former military; I believe in supporting the president no matter what. When our president sends troops into harm's way we need to speak with one voice and back him 100%. We all saw what happened on 9/11 and it stunned me that we never had full support for what we did in Afghanistan, and we also never had full support in Iraq. Look what happened with out it.

Will everyone pull in the same direction? Hardly. It's just going to be business as usual with one side trying to beat the other.

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19300144)
America has spoken...

Well...parts of Ohio have spoken.

Rochard 11-07-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19300144)

I do feel for the generations coming up though. Work hard, graduate from college with enormous debt only to not find a job. Or if they do, probably not one that is going to pay well.

This is exactly what happened to me when I graduated from college. I dropped out of high school, went into the Marines, and I graduated college at the same time of the dot cum bubble burst. Just because you go to college doesn't mean the economy will have a job waiting for you.

(In fact, this is exactly how I got into porn!)

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19300144)
If the country is morphing to a nannie state then all I can say is I was lucky to be alive in the 60's and have an opportunity to build and grow a business. The changes today in society are not ones I would ever choose for anyone.

How is it morphing into a nannie state? Did something change? Has anyone ever made any large change to welfare? We have more people on welfare now than before - duh. Look at what President Bush left us with. This is not something that is going to be fixed in four years.

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19300144)
My only comment on paying more tax is..you were right all the time. I will certainly pay more, but at the end of the day it won't make a bit of difference to my lifestyle.

I knew this all along. You can pay more and taxes and it's not going to change your lifestyle at all. That's great. But now the guy who sweeps the floors at your plant might pay a little less, and might not worry about being able to afford his grocery bill this weekend.

Cheers.

BlackCrayon 11-07-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19300144)

If the country is morphing to a nannie state then all I can say is I was lucky to be alive in the 60's and have an opportunity to build and grow a business. The changes today in society are not ones I would ever choose for anyone.

In a couple of hundred years, assuming there still is a human race I imagine that they will look at the US dynasty that existed for about 60 years and look to this period of time as about when it ended.
Nothing lasts forever!

I never realized you were that old. You were building businesses in the 60's? Anyways, while your second paragraph may have some truth, if anything the reason why is that the rest of the world is catching up and big business loves cheap labor. people won't work for pennies here but they will elsewhere. Greed is killing the american lifestyle more than anything. if all products sold in the US were made in the US, they would cost more but there would definitely be more jobs.

CyberHustler 11-07-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300151)
I am former military; I believe in supporting the president no matter what. When our president sends troops into harm's way we need to speak with one voice and back him 100%. We all saw what happened on 9/11 and it stunned me that we never had full support for what we did in Afghanistan, and we also never had full support in Iraq. Look what happened with out it.

Will everyone pull in the same direction? Hardly. It's just going to be business as usual with one side trying to beat the other.

I'm ex military too (and a NYer), but I fail to see how Iraq fits into 9/11. I would have rather that war been blatantly about daddy revenge lol.

MaDalton 11-07-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300151)
I am former military; I believe in supporting the president no matter what. When our president sends troops into harm's way we need to speak with one voice and back him 100%. We all saw what happened on 9/11 and it stunned me that we never had full support for what we did in Afghanistan, and we also never had full support in Iraq. Look what happened with out it.

Will everyone pull in the same direction? Hardly. It's just going to be business as usual with one side trying to beat the other.

from a german point of view - which was very much criticized back then - there was support for the war in Afghanistan - even though we had already seen how the Russians failed against the Taliban (at that time supported with weapons from the US)

but the war against Iraq was not justified and built on lies - and thats when international support began to fall apart

thats what the german minister of foreign affairs said back then - right in the face of Rumsfeld



and these wars (started by Bush - or whoever used him as puppet) were what drove the US budget in the shitter - not a few % taxes more or less

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300119)
So does Minte have to pay more taxes now?

Doesn't that mean you pay more taxes now too? When Obamacare's mandates kick in you'll have to pay for healthcare for all of your employees or pay taxes on them, right?

Or do you already cover healthcare for all of your employees?

Minte 11-07-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19300176)
I never realized you were that old. You were building businesses in the 60's? Anyways, while your second paragraph may have some truth, if anything the reason why is that the rest of the world is catching up and big business loves cheap labor. people won't work for pennies here but they will elsewhere. Greed is killing the american lifestyle more than anything. if all products sold in the US were made in the US, they would cost more but there would definitely be more jobs.

I am in my midish' 50's. I was around and reasonably aware of the major social changes in the 60's. I started in the business in the late 70's

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19300219)
I am in my midish' 50's. I was around and reasonably aware of the major social changes in the 60's. I started in the business in the late 70's

To clarify - for those of us who have an idea of what you do - did you start your business from scratch, did you inherit a company and grow it, did you buy into a business?

Rochard 11-07-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19300182)
I'm ex military too (and a NYer), but I fail to see how Iraq fits into 9/11. I would have rather that war been blatantly about daddy revenge lol.

Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11.

The reasons we went back into Iraq isn't something I want to argue here, but instead my point is when the President of the United States says "We are going to war" it cannot be "Half in and half out". We need to go in fully and we need to back the decision.

During WWII we went "All in" - which is why we were able to recover from the Great Depression. During Vietnam the majority of the public failed to back the war - understandable - but because of the lack of faith our military faltered, which in turned caused our government to falter as well.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-07-2012 10:45 AM

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11?

CDSmith 11-07-2012 10:46 AM

Don't write off the whole country's entire future Minte. It's only 4 short years, then Jeb Bush will get elected and fix all this higher tax nonsense and you'll be back in the black. :D

Cheer up!

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19300273)
Don't write off the whole country's entire future Minte. It's only 4 short years, then Jeb Bush will get elected and fix all this higher tax nonsense and you'll be back in the black. :D

Cheer up!

Bush/Christie 2016!

If Christie lives that long.

Rochard 11-07-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 19300214)
Doesn't that mean you pay more taxes now too?

Maybe, maybe not. My taxes go up and down from year to to year based on a large number of factors. My taxes will go up or down no matter who is in office. I don't base my growth on who is in office or how much taxes I might have to pay next year. I base my growth on my business.

The loop holes for taxes are staggering. I have a truck for one business; We haul around so much gear that I have to make two trips. Not only do I get to write of a portion of the expenses off, but also the mileage too? What a joke. I bet you Minte writes off a ton of shit too.

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 19300214)
When Obamacare's mandates kick in you'll have to pay for healthcare for all of your employees or pay taxes on them, right?

Currently I pay heathcare for twenty-six people. Healthcare is going to go up no matter what. If Obamacare never passed, healthcare would still go up. Just like it has every year.

epitome 11-07-2012 11:03 AM

We should be checking in with Ed Hammer. Seems like he is on the brink of failure and an Obama win would push him over the edge.

woj 11-07-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300294)
The loop holes for taxes are staggering. I have a truck for one business; We haul around so much gear that I have to make two trips. Not only do I get to write of a portion of the expenses off, but also the mileage too? What a joke. I bet you Minte writes off a ton of shit too.

How is that a loophole or a joke? Your business incurs expenses, so you write them off...
nothing wrong with that... it's unlikely you are writing off much more than you actually spent, and if you are, you are probably doing something wrong and at least border-line illegal...

what type of business(es) do you run by the way?

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19300327)
what type of business(es) do you run by the way?

It's a secret.

beemk 11-07-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 19300335)
It's a secret.

Run along, Rochard is only a salesrep who bounces around from job to job on the side because he does it for shits and giggles. He has a secret career that hes very successful at.

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformation...7-minister.jpg

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300294)
I have a truck for one business; We haul around so much gear that I have to make two trips.

Not to play Monday morning CEO or anything, but if you lease a larger truck and only make one trip you can write off the lease and pay your employees half as much because they'll be working twice as fast and you could use the time you save to book another job...

beemk 11-07-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300294)
Currently I pay heathcare for twenty-six people.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19295260)
I have twenty-one people on staff at two different companies at two different locations.

Make up your mind.

Rochard 11-07-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19300327)
How is that a loophole or a joke? Your business incurs expenses, so you write them off...
nothing wrong with that... it's unlikely you are writing off much more than you actually spent, and if you are, you are probably doing something wrong and at least border-line illegal...

It's a complete joke. I work from home myself, and yet because my home office is in fact an office and does not have a bed in it I can write off a portion of my house?

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19300327)
what type of business(es) do you run by the way?

I am a co-owner of our family owned screen printing business and my wife owns a sports training facility. I work full time for Dating Factory, a few other adult concerns, and also run a zillion blogs.

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300373)
It's a complete joke. I work from home myself, and yet because my home office is in fact an office and does not have a bed in it I can write off a portion of my house?

How is that a joke? If you are in business and you have an office it's clearly not income and shouldn't be taxed as such.

If you didn't have an office in your home, it would be someplace else and you'd get a deduction for that.

PR_Glen 11-07-2012 11:41 AM

what does being a soldier have to do with being behind the president 100%? There were plenty of soldiers who were in vietnam that didn't agree with their president, there are plenty of soldiers today that voted against obama because of broken promises.

following orders and agreeing with your presidents decisions isn't even the same thing...

woj 11-07-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300373)
It's a complete joke. I work from home myself, and yet because my home office is in fact an office and does not have a bed in it I can write off a portion of my house?

why not? You use a room in your house for business, you heat it, pay electricity, taxes, etc for it... why shouldn't you write it off?

but I must admit you are kinda right, in our case (online businesses) writing off portion of your house expenses ($1000s per year) because you setup a desk and a computer in some room, and use it to run a blog network is probably a bit of a stretch...

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19300420)
why not? You use a room in your house for business, you heat it, pay electricity, taxes, etc for it... why shouldn't you write it off?

but I must admit you are kinda right, in our case (online businesses) writing off portion of your house expenses ($1000s per year) because you setup a desk and a computer in some room, and use it to run a blog network is probably a bit of a stretch...

My office is in the biggest room of my house, and when I moved in I made a few mods to increase the footprint a little, that home office deduction is a very big deal to me.

And don't belittle blogs, woj, they pay my mortgage.

woj 11-07-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 19300441)
My office is in the biggest room of my house, and when I moved in I made a few mods to increase the footprint a little, that home office deduction is a very big deal to me.

And don't belittle blogs, woj, they pay my mortgage.

The home office deduction is nice indeed, but I think Rochard might be partially right in that the validity of it is questionable..

I didn't mean to sound like there is anything wrong with blogs, they can be a good income source, but it's not 100% obvious that running a relatively small online business (like a blog network) requires an "office"...

SuckOnThis 11-07-2012 12:20 PM

The home office deduction is an audit flag and when you go to sell the house you have to recapture some of what you deducted.

CyberHustler 11-07-2012 12:22 PM

They can come see my home office, I'm writing that bitch off.

Sly 11-07-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19300485)
The home office deduction is an audit flag and when you go to sell the house you have to recapture some of what you deducted.

My accountant said it could be a flag, but if you are legitimately using it and require it, then take advantage of the write off, especially since you know you will get screwed somewhere else!

Rochard 11-07-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19300471)
The home office deduction is nice indeed, but I think Rochard might be partially right in that the validity of it is questionable..

That's my point. I get to write off a portion of my house WHY? Because I need an office?

I get to write off mileage on my truck? How does the IRS know how much of my mileage is for personal use or business use? I bought two computers in the past two months, but how does the IRS know they weren't just Christmas presents for someone?

I try to be pretty fair and honest about everything, but when my accountant tells me I can write legally write off a portion of my mileage every year I would be a fool not to.

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19300471)
I didn't mean to sound like there is anything wrong with blogs, they can be a good income source, but it's not 100% obvious that running a relatively small online business (like a blog network) requires an "office"...

My blogs also pay my mortgage, but I also work full time from home so in my case this is in fact my office.

Rochard 11-07-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19300398)
what does being a soldier have to do with being behind the president 100%? There were plenty of soldiers who were in vietnam that didn't agree with their president, there are plenty of soldiers today that voted against obama because of broken promises.

following orders and agreeing with your presidents decisions isn't even the same thing...

Following orders and agreeing with your president are in fact two different things. However, when the President says "GO" you go - You don't say "I don't agree with us attacking this nation so can we talk about it". It's not open to discussion.

MattPornerBros 11-07-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19300144)
America has spoken..

Clearly I don't like or respect what they said. But it is what it is.

I do feel for the generations coming up though. Work hard, graduate from college with enormous debt only to not find a job. Or if they do, probably not one that is going to pay well.

If the country is morphing to a nannie state then all I can say is I was lucky to be alive in the 60's and have an opportunity to build and grow a business. The changes today in society are not ones I would ever choose for anyone.

In a couple of hundred years, assuming there still is a human race I imagine that they will look at the US dynasty that existed for about 60 years and look to this period of time as about when it ended.
Nothing lasts forever!

My only comment on paying more tax is..you were right all the time. I will certainly pay more, but at the end of the day it won't make a bit of difference to my lifestyle.

LOL.

This is exactly what every liberal was saying. If it doesn't change your lifestyle and helps the country why would you even fight it??

woj 11-07-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MattPornerBros (Post 19300601)
LOL.

This is exactly what every liberal was saying. If it doesn't change your lifestyle and helps the country why would you even fight it??

What makes you so sure it would indeed "help the country"?

BlackCrayon 11-07-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19300493)
My accountant said it could be a flag, but if you are legitimately using it and require it, then take advantage of the write off, especially since you know you will get screwed somewhere else!

i got audited and they disallowed many things. they lowered the amount of internet i could claim, cell phone, home office.. basically eliminated any car related expenses because after all, how much driving does anyone have to do with an online business. etc etc. 98% of people are probably claiming certain things that would be denied if they were actually audited

baddog 11-07-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300119)
I wonder how Minte is feeling this morning - You know, after he expanded his business while Obama is in office.

You most certainly have to pay more taxes now; if you are the baller you say you are, they will be retroactive too. :2 cents:

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19300699)
You most certainly have to pay more taxes now; if you are the baller you say you are, they will be retroactive too. :2 cents:

OWNED by Prop 30, homies.

jimmy-3-way 11-07-2012 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MattPornerBros (Post 19300601)
LOL.

This is exactly what every liberal was saying. If it doesn't change your lifestyle and helps the country why would you even fight it??

Uh...because it's his fucking money, dude.

SmutHammer 11-07-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19300318)
We should be checking in with Ed Hammer. Seems like he is on the brink of failure and an Obama win would push him over the edge.

No, Just a major change in lifestyle. Only time will tell...

I guess it is time to put more focus on my adult stuff?

baddog 11-07-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 19300765)
OWNED by Prop 30, homies.

He probably voted Yes on 30

DamianJ 11-07-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300373)
I am a co-owner of our family owned screen printing business and my wife owns a sports training facility. I work full time for Dating Factory, a few other adult concerns, and also run a zillion blogs.

Stopped working for ynot mail?

Rochard 11-07-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19300699)
You most certainly have to pay more taxes now; if you are the baller you say you are, they will be retroactive too. :2 cents:

Maybe, I don't know. I have an accountant for these things. For all I know she's robbing me blind. My taxes change every year, as does the amount I make. Sometimes I pay more and sometimes I pay less. While clearly I'm not as big as a baller as Minte, I'm guessing it's not going to make a difference in my lifestyle.

baddog 11-07-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19300832)
Maybe, I don't know.

Do you vote? Do you pay any attention to the propositions on the ballot, as in, do you read beyond the title or just go on whatever "voter's guide" reaches your mailbox first.

You and EVERYONE in the State of California will begin paying higher taxes due to Prop 30 passing.

LeRoy 11-07-2012 04:01 PM

So they pay a little more in taxes...

Like he said, it's not going to change his life style.

Robbie 11-07-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 19300873)
So they pay a little more in taxes...

Like he said, it's not going to change his life style.

Won't change the federal govt.'s lifestyle either. Politicians in D.C. will still get free health care, big fancy offices with dozens of staff people, eat for free, have big limousines to drive them around, and keep right on spending 10.6 BILLION DOLLARS PER DAY...EVERY DAY.

So yeah! Let's all give them some more money! And tonight your Congressman, Senator, and President will all be eating the finest meals in the nicest residences and drinking the finest wine and champagne while poor people starve and scream for rich people to "pay a little more" :1orglaugh


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