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Presidential Debate II : Winner?
Much better debate than Round 1.
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hey what was wrong with the 600 other nicks you've been using bro ???
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This one goes to Barrack
The 1st win by romney was more clear... but its an Obama win tonight for sure |
All the nicks Juicy and I had years ago were banned by the new administration. Haven't had any of them for years. Thanks for noticing though.
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I thought Romney clearly won the first one.
This one Obama clearly won. FWIW: Romney was a disrespectful prick to the POTUS. I read many comments on Facebook from angry people about that. No matter what he is the current POTUS and that comes with a deserved respect. I don't think Romney's brazen disrespect is going to sit well with swing voters and women for sure. Keep in mind. I don't care about either side. I believe they are all equally bad. Some of them are just better liars and car salesmen. My thoughts. |
I'd say it was a boring tie, except for when Obama said he called it a terrorist attack on the first day. That is a lie and a very very big important one!
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Better question is who is the loser regardless of which one of these clown puppets are in office?
Answer: The American people |
Obama did better but not good enough.
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Obama doesn't need to win the debate.
Romney needs to win big or go home. Romney didn't win. The smartest move of the debate was calling Romney's nonspecific economic plan a 'sketchy deal' Watch in the coming weeks how they compare his Sketchy Deal to the historic Fair Deal of Truman's era and the New Deal of FDR's era. They can hammer him on the 'Sketchy Deal' from now until Election Day with older voters in Florida and other swing states who remember history better than younger people who tend not to vote and tend to vote for Democrats anyway. Direct mail, local radio ads and robo calling will move the needle on that issue with older voters. |
I think most people will tow their party line on this debate and think their candidate did better than the other. Obama certainly did a much better job in this debate, at least by comparison to his performance in the first one. I'm curious to see how truly undecided voters respond. I'm more in that category than I am as a party voter (Obama got my vote last election) and my personal bottom line sentiment this election is that I'm not convinced the current administration is solving our issues and since a vote for the Libertarian party counts but won't effect change that I'm ready to let Romney give it a go for 4 years. If he fails, I'll fire him with my next vote.
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How is that a lie? |
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Because i said obama won... but i dont know the expression : was to pushy |
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..he came in one of the worst usa crisis, he had the courage to make social plan even if the economy is still average.. he pays for old stuff from bush family... it wasnt too bad with all the circumstances Look even the Dow Jones is not too bad... the worst of the crisis is behind http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$IN...d=p99376856941 http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$IN...=1350443232605 |
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Or are you talking about the "unreleased tape" |
Not showing a preference for the candidates one way or the other doesn't discount or marginalize my participation in political process. My vote counts just as much as those who are tunnel visioned to a singular party. A lot of us are not swooned by one or the other. I used to like Obama more, but I matured and woke up. If it wears a tie and is elected, I don't trust it any more. It's a trend I'm seeing more and more.
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I think this debate would have been a tie if Obama didn't lie about the "terrorist thing" Since he did that I say Romney won. I thought that this time Romney was to disrespectful to the current President. One of the big things for Romney in the first debate was that he was so respectful, and backed off when he seen that the President was down. |
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Here it is in a greater length, again the day after... "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done." 9/12/12 |
Romney kept touting his experience at running a small business. |
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Do you think the Dow Jones will go lower than the crash we had few years ago ? I really dont see that, look at the actual charts.. PS I dont related everything to dow Jones, but its one the my mesure because i like stock market... and if the american companies does ok, well its in the chart ! (like now) |
If the definition of a good debate is watching one guy hand another guy a giant chunk of his ass, then that was a good debate.
I was watching Rachel Maddow and Chris Mathews on MSNBC try to suppress their orgasm over that debate. There was an Obabma pep rally right behind Mathews, and absurdity of the whole scene made me laugh out loud. I just realized they're even more biased than FOX. Fox doesn't hide it well either, but at least the chicks are better to look at. |
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I was 7 years old when Nixon became president and not quite 13 when he left office. I'm 51 years old. How old are you? 70? 80? lol |
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I'm not going party line. Obama did better, but it wasn't a clear win which makes Romney look more like a winner. |
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Like I said before, the Federal Reserve is printing a billion a day right now, completely destroying the dollar. We will soon experience hyperinflation, regardless of which one of these clowns are in office that you all like to argue back and forth about. |
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Anyway it's boring.... I'm getting offline for the night. |
"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. ". The president in the rose garden.
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Kudos to Candy Crowley for not letting Romney squirm his way out of the lies he made regarding Obama's response to the embassy attack in Libya, when he totally misrepresented the President's response to the issue (and while Romney sidestepped his own disloyal and disrespectful comments which he made at the time).
Here is the uncut version of what Obama said: And here is what Romney said at that time: The defining moment of tonight's debate: :smilie_we ADG |
OMG you guys are right he said that statement on the first day! Then for weeks blamed it on a youtube video.
also he said "acts of terror" He did not call it a terrorist attack! |
Look how these fools argue over petty irrelevant bullshit.
He said she said, who said what type shit....... did Obama call the attacks terrorism the day after or didn't he? As if this actually matters somehow. You're all distracted from anything that actually matters. The bigger picture is difficult for people to focus on, they stay busy arguing over meaningless crap. Next you'll be arguing about who was wearing the nicer necktie. Could you imagine if something as important as NDAA (the law Obama signed that allows U.S. citizens to be detained indefinitely without trial) was brought up in the debate? Or how the Federal Reserve is the main culprit behind the destruction of our currency and economy? They don't bring up these real issues because they want you to remain ignorant of them to begin with and then waste your time arguing with each other about absolutely nothing. |
"Obama called it terrorism the day after the attack!"
"No he didn't!" "Yes he did!" "No he didn't!" "Yes he did, go read the transcript!!" God damn you people are pathetic. lol, it's like watching children on a playground. |
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Everybody is going to parse each comment to their own benefit. :disgust
Fuck em all. :321GFY The only opinion that counts is your ballot on election day. :2 cents: |
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In English they have the identical meaning. In your language, how do they differ? |
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In 1968 election that he would end the Vietnam War -- 22,000 young Americans of my generation sacrificed their lives for Nixon's "Peace with Honor" bullshit until 1973. |
Results hidden? Nice poll lol.
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No matter what caused the brutal attack, be it a spontaneous protest to a video or a planned terrorist act, I am sure that it was terrifying to all that were there and an act of terror.
There is a big difference between the term "act of terror" and a "terrorist act" carried out by organized radical Islamic terrorists. |
And the results are in for the Candy Crowley mindfuck buffet leftovers race - The dip outlasts the chip.
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As a simple matter of language there is zero difference. 2+2 = 4 You can dislike 4. You can prefer 3. None of that changes what 2+2 actually is equivalent to... Act of Terror = Terrorist Act in English. |
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The charts reflect some aspect of the economy but for sure not everything. but they reflect perception, fear, hope, investment etc... They stop the crash by lower the rates and printing money, for sure has you said hyperinflation could destroy the economy and turn the country into dark... But nobody does know that clearly. If it was that clear well the market will be the mirror of that,,, and i will short all the stock i can. I think now investors has put their pink glasses a lil too fast, but theres a reason, and its because its not only bad news and their is still gas in the tank The debt is so crazy and scary I agree too... and if the country wasn't the USA ill be VERY pessimist. The Subprime mortgage crisis was not a walk in the park, the artificially stop it, and they may find another way to stop this one too to goes to lower level, that's my point, I'm more optimistic, and USA has a lot of tentacle and influence and tricks ! I think that economy will go down-up-down-up for few years but i dont see a HUGE recession, but a recession for sure Also. we don't know whats gonna happen with europe, india/china, innovation, war, virus, etc etc all those factors will influence the rest, at least USA is a solid country its only my opinion and i respect it, but one thing im sure, nobody know whats gonna happen, nobody has the verity, even the best economic guy on the planet.. Im interest to hear your tough and learn about your opinion so feel free to continue :) |
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