Alot TGP owners are so fucking greedy
 

I'm getting sick and tired of seeing TGP owners who sells their spots having their own FHG listed in the topspots (click forced up there)... are you fucking kidding us?

I'm not going to mention any TGPs here, you all know who you are.. you're fucking thiefs who with one hand sells us your traffic and with the other one steals it all back again (all the good stuff) by taking the topspots yourself

Fucking greedy idiots

gallery submitters are stupid for paying for the "chance to get listed"
they should force a system where you only pay for what gets on the page..
however, i am in the minority on this and i'm also very old as well ;)

Start a blog instead. When you think about it, a blog is not much different than a TGP/VGP, except you are in control and call the shots.

The only people that make any money in the whole TGP side of this industry are the TGP owners.

I hit it hard a few year's back, and with a HUN placement, as well as a few other biggies, I was lucky if I made a grand from a week or two's efforts. And most week's you will not get listed in a biggy without paying for it, especially now.

People who pay good money for programs like chameleon are naive idiots.

There are a few TGPs out there still letting the webmaster make profit, but I agree.. 95% of all TGPS the only one making money is the TGP owner himself...

need to use new methods as all people say tgp owners are becomming greedy so need to work on new methods..

every webmaster is greedy, i guess thats the point of being in this biz

Maybe we should all begin making chargebacks on our gallery purchases.. "Well, we didn't get what we paid for..."

You are also very wise my friend. :)

There isn't a program out even worth promoting on TGP's right now. Who's going to pay these insane prices these TGP's are asking to see 1:5000 ratios? The TGP game is fucked up.

biskoppen - I know my sites are small in comparison but if you give me your galleries, to list (hopefully a wide variety) you will get the two top listings daily. May not be much but I don't trade - I don't cheat and it's all SE traffic & growing daily :)

Yep, I'm pretty amazed so many people are still willing to gamble with submitter accounts instead of buying paid spots...but with all the newbies constantly entering the industry, this ripoff will probably stay successful for quite a time.

Why do you think their are tgps that still take submissions? That is how they are making money... The tgp game is very saturated and all of the cheaters who make money selling traffic to traffic brokers have almost killed the game. You are lucky to make $2k per mos/100K daily traffic these days.... and that barely covers bandwidth if you have big thumbs.

Is it still possible to make money with paid spots? Rates haven't fallen the way conversion ratios have.

Sorry but if you want pa on my tgp you need to pay 1000$ hehe

Thats just what they call business.

tgp owners are greedy and you are too stupid to generate your own traffic.
end of the day you are still stupid.
no one said you had to use any tgp's traffic.
having your head so far up your ass is starving you brain for oxygen.
pull the fuck out.

:thumbsup

:2 cents:

Generalized statements reinforce you are an idiot.

To clarify, anyone who uses a program and their default DB will not be successful.

The tools are great, but you need to consistently track and tweak to make the coin.

:2 cents:

I don't understand why anyone would still submit at all. Submitters no longer server any purpose.

I quit submitting about 6 weeks ago, and I'm actually making more money now thanks to the extra free time to do other more profitable things, and money saved from spending on partner accounts.

I dropped all paid accounts a good while back, and haven't seen a significant drop in my submitter income. That said, I am fortunate to have a handful of very nice free accounts, and I am sure that helps.

I've stopped buying partner accounts etc. Submitting is going down down hill for most submitters.

I tweaked the hell out of the database, and had hundreds of niche places to submit in it.

The whole process of submitting is and has been dead for at least 5 years.

Move on.

I pointed that out two years ago already but nobody wanted to listen to me.

not true! I was still making a lot of money with submitting in 2005.

In now way should it be the point but it is the unfortunate reality.

tgps are so 90s

Dear god, you're such an imbecile. Amazing.

I always wondered why people called you a useless fuckwit troll, and now I have first hand proof.

Nice to me you dipshit.

No cuntface, dont turn things around. You come here in this thread and make 2 totally fucking ridiculous statements which obviously is the result of YOU being a failure and thats why i call you an imbecile. This has nothing to be with being a troll. Dont confuse things imbecile.

I wish more people would understand this.


with age comes wisdom shemp ;)

Exactly.

:2 cents:

Well if submitting sucks so bad.. why does it still take over a month to get reviewed at TheHun? Hmm?

Those tgps that are worth getting listed on are very few these days!

Well then I'll guess it's save to call you a wise old man then :winkwink:

Good Thread!
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My TGP galleries I submit to about 40 sites bring in about 6-7k/month after expenses but maybe I'm just lucky. I do have a number of PAs, paid and free.

VikingThumbs.com ....is down..

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