Because there are 10K noob webmasters using auto submit tools all trying to get listed.

You're right to some extent Frank, submitting galleries both via an auto submitter, plus handpicking and getting over 50 partner accounts, getting listed in places like the Hun, xnxx etc (proving my galleries weren't shite), I couldn't make it pay as much as other methods.

It is probably the least productive thing I've done in the 5 years doing this gig full time, other than hang out in this place.

Seems the only ones making good coin from the process are the TGP owners (and good luck to them), submitter software owners selling the dream of an easy buck, and a few lucky ones with lots of good contacts who give them preferential treatment.

This is true. I have droped a lot of account too. And I am going to drop two more this months, since they are not sending me any traffic. I am paying 100 per month for their smartthumbs tgps and they send less traffic than posting my gallery in one post of a free porn forum. Just insane.

Also, Why do some TGPs in Submitpasses system sell unlimited amount of Partner Accounts???!! They don't have any stop or limit. If there are 500 guys asking for account, they have no problems to sell 500 accounts and keep selling.. That is unethical and tricking the honest webmaster.

Not many submitters here it seems...

Still waiting for those 1000$ :)

It's the soul purpose for the TGP/MGP owner to give it all away for free..Who gives a fuck they pay for hosting and give away free partner accounts and want the submitter to make sales ..Jesus,all I ask is for a little traffic that may come from a reciprocal link up top,nothing else..I can't believe how much submitters complain.The TGP owners have to seek out decent traffic themselves in order to make you bastards some sales for fuck sakes..what do you expect?

The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that: Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right; greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms, greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge — has marked the upward surge of mankind and greed, you mark my words — will not only save Teldar Paper but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.

For the life of me I wonder why I waste my time and money on trying to keep an obviously over saturated market and just concentrate on mainstream.

okay im gonna tell you right now.. the place you want to get listed,, from an old school mafacka..

#1 The Hun of course.. It's gotta be niches.. Interracial does well.. Wifey etc.
@Snakes
@Shemp
@Pink World
@Thumbzilla
@ThumbnailPost -> Very Hard but very productive.
@ElephantList

The rest well good luck..

IMHO feel free to add.

Oh yeal al4a is awesome traffic, always a few sales from them.. World Sex is very hard, but if you have the right site to send them too you'll do well.. Like I said, the rest well its hit and miss.... Got to have someting fresh.. Micro niche shit... Best to have your own proggie..... Good luck!

that looks like my submit list from about 6 years ago ...:thumbsup

I remember when I used to submit galleries in 2001/2002 I got emails from TGP/MGP webmasters every other week or so "Please submit your galleries to my site, I will list all of them in the top 3". Those were the days for submitters I guess, things change :)

If I do jump back in the game thats going to be all I use for the TGP submits.