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gotys 08-31-2002 05:23 PM

TGP3 Proposal
 
http://www.sweetmomma.com/galleries/1/
http://www.sweetmomma.com/galleries/2/
http://www.sweetmomma.com/galleries/3/
http://www.sweetmomma.com/galleries/4/

What do you think guys? Is this gonna set a new standard?

Plat 08-31-2002 05:24 PM

i likes ;c)

hyper 08-31-2002 05:24 PM

nope..
if they cant get free shit from you..
they'll get it from somewhere else..

[Labret] 08-31-2002 05:25 PM

And how are you going to make the rest of your ilk follow your lead.

TGP2 was a fantastic idea shoved into obscurity.

Lane 08-31-2002 05:25 PM

of course it would be good if everyone did that
but give us a good reason why tgp's would start accepting that kind of galleries

gotys 08-31-2002 05:26 PM

Well, anyone who is smart will follow, this is fuckload of money-idea. And I am nice enough to share :)

Lane 08-31-2002 05:31 PM

can you answer my question?

i ask you again, tell me why tgp owners should accept these galleries

pornJester 08-31-2002 05:32 PM

I like, good concept. I'd be willing to work with you on this, and I know a few others who are also interested. Hit me up on ICQ.. 91573698

Babaganoosh 08-31-2002 05:33 PM

I am all for it. The big boys would never do that though. Unfortunately without the cooperation of EVERYONE, the idea is useless. I would love to hear what the hun, zilla, etc have to say about the idea.

hyper 08-31-2002 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
can you answer my question?

i ask you again, tell me why tgp owners should accept these galleries

because they would put their own galleries on the tgp

GFED 08-31-2002 05:36 PM

That is how I set up my sites... it works better than a tour...

Babaganoosh 08-31-2002 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
of course it would be good if everyone did that
but give us a good reason why tgp's would start accepting that kind of galleries

Uhhh, to make money? Wonder why you don't make much money? Too goddamned many people giving away free quality porn. If there were NO free hardcore porn on the net, the millions of freeloading surfers would be forced to either join paysites to see porn OR get used to jerking off to pics of fully clothed women.

steffie 08-31-2002 05:36 PM

I love the idea.. so,, I am going to submit 2 galleries tonight with that setup. Lets see who takes it and who doesn't..

But personally I have paysites I love it,,

I never did like tgp2's but this I like

gotys 08-31-2002 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper


because they would put their own galleries on the tgp

Thank you!

gotys 08-31-2002 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
I love the idea.. so,, I am going to submit 2 galleries tonight with that setup. Lets see who takes it and who doesn't..

But personally I have paysites I love it,,

I never did like tgp2's but this I like

Submit to me, I will accept it gladly!

kosmic 08-31-2002 05:40 PM

good idea, I like the concept.

:thumbsup

cherrylula 08-31-2002 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
And how are you going to make the rest of your ilk follow your lead.

TGP2 was a fantastic idea shoved into obscurity.

its because they are too fucking lazy to build all those pages.... they want to use their little programs and bust out a gallery and make tons of money asap.

gothweb 08-31-2002 05:42 PM

I like it, and would love to see it catch on.

Generally speaking... It's only a matter of time before all the free porn makes it nigh impossible to make any money... and once that happens, even that will go away. So in the long run, the free porn will die.. but personally, I'd rather see us work on a stable overall business model, instead of waiting for that.

More specifically... Anything that reduces the amount of free content, but still gives people enough to see to drive traffic around and create sales, sounds great to me. The greyed thumbs are a nice compromise.

Problems... Too many thumbs. The amount of images is overwhelming. It makes what you actually see look much less impressive. I would set a limit on the range of number of images, and number of thumbs.

So, continuing that line of thought... what would you say are the complete specs of a "TGP3" gallery?

- greyed thumbs for images not included for free

What else/

cherrylula 08-31-2002 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gotys
What do you think guys? Is this gonna set a new standard?
Although that is a good idea, its about what you don't show the surfer.

FATPad 08-31-2002 05:46 PM

*sigh*

Brown Bear 08-31-2002 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
nope..
if they cant get free shit from you..
they'll get it from somewhere else..

exactly

dnsmonster 08-31-2002 05:51 PM

Provided that the gallery actually has the required number of clickable images to be accepted to a particular TGP, I see why not tease the visitor a bit more with the shit he has to pay for to get. Not a bad idea at all.

What I would change is make member area thumbs color and free ones black-and-white. This way the fuckers will keep clicking on the juicy color ones.

Chris R 08-31-2002 05:59 PM

Almost every week - a new idea on how to change the system.
Not that it is a bad idea - it just won't work.
Believe what you want, but there is such a thing as suppply and demand.

YOU CAN NOT CONTROL the supply - no matter what you think. you might get some people here and there - but you can do that with a circle jerk site as well. If people don't like it - they will go somewhere else.

Free Porn is here to stay.

Why people go with TGPs WHEN THEY DON'T want to give away free porn - I will never know.

You are much better off with free sites - you won't go into debt for your bandwidth - and you will make a profit.

TRAFFIC does not equal money - especially when some of that traffic is hitbot traffic and a good deal is foreign.

Maybe I am missing something.

The Machine 08-31-2002 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris R
Almost every week - a new idea on how to change the system.
Not that it is a bad idea - it just won't work.
Believe what you want, but there is such a thing as suppply and demand.

YOU CAN NOT CONTROL the supply - no matter what you think. you might get some people here and there - but you can do that with a circle jerk site as well. If people don't like it - they will go somewhere else.

Free Porn is here to stay.

Why people go with TGPs WHEN THEY DON'T want to give away free porn - I will never know.

You are much better off with free sites - you won't go into debt for your bandwidth - and you will make a profit.

TRAFFIC does not equal money - especially when some of that traffic is hitbot traffic and a good deal is foreign.

Maybe I am missing something.

i think you pretty much covered it all.

Steve 08-31-2002 06:07 PM

Sorry, I don't see this flying. I'm not rooting against it, but I went thru a serious fling with TGP2, and I smell a repeat.

NoCarrier 08-31-2002 06:08 PM

What is it with August and those "revolutionnary" tgp ideas?

I have a better idea :

TGP 4 - Only thumbnails. I only want to show them what to expect inside. They want the fucking pictures, pay for them asshole.

Oh wait. I am alone with this idea. Everybody thinks it's great, but nobody will accept this kind of gallery.

Oh well, I'll wait until august 2003 and propose something else..

cherrylula 08-31-2002 06:14 PM

I think it would actually work better if you just censored the images, or blurred them somehow maybe.

Curiousity killed the cat.

The Machine 08-31-2002 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
I think it would actually work better if you just censored the images, or blurred them somehow maybe.

Curiousity killed the cat.

even better - show tits and ass only - no pussy, no hardcore shots.

Steve 08-31-2002 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
I think it would actually work better if you just censored the images, or blurred them somehow maybe.

Curiousity killed the cat.

That happens to work great. On AVS tours.

TGP is not going to accept these - it's not going to change.

Weck up to theez!

Shooter 08-31-2002 07:12 PM

Let us know how this works for you Petr if you end up posting these on your sites.

TDF 08-31-2002 09:14 PM

the galleries cant do anthign but help the situation. Porn has and always been an impulse buy.If the surfer sees something they like,they buy so if they like the images they buy. WHo gives a fuck about if the stupid surfer goes to another TGP because lets face it,a lost surfer is likely gone forever.


More thong and tit pics cant do anything but help the biz and keep unecessary traffic suckers down. Its just simply another way of filtering traffic. Im sure it will work

Lane 08-31-2002 09:31 PM

of course if you can get the traffic to the gallery, it will make much more money....

but tell this to the tgp owners... they are too afraid to lose their surfers..

can anyone make a list of tgp's who will accept these kind of galleries?

TDF 08-31-2002 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
of course if you can get the traffic to the gallery, it will make much more money....

but tell this to the tgp owners... they are too afraid to lose their surfers..

can anyone make a list of tgp's who will accept these kind of galleries?


it definitely wouldnt hurt any of the smaller TGP's to do this since they dont have much to lose. Why wait for the big boys to convert when the minority can trade traffic within the pool? Think about it...once the glories of the conversions start sprouting some may convert and some wont. Personally I wouldnt want to wait around to make any money :2 cents:

Carrie 08-31-2002 09:42 PM

This is actually a pretty damn *creative* approach to a solution, rather than the "how many pics should we show" debate. I like it! :thumbsup

I do, however, think that there are too many pics on the galleries - it is a bit overwhelming and think of your 'average' surfer who gets confused just turning on his monitor.

Also one of my biggees is NO HARDCORE - you've kept pretty close to that but in gallery 3 you've got a full-sized pic of the girl with the guy's dick stuffed all the way down her throat. :)

The idea proposed recently about putting hardcore TGP galleries behind an AVS system is also a good one, and I've seen a few people mention in chat rooms and such that they're doing this and it's working very well for them.
Also can't help with the law coming down the pike... eventually all of the hardcore is going to get the majority of the TGPs shut down but if we wait for that we'll all be broke.

the Shemp 08-31-2002 09:47 PM

You can put me on the list of sites that wont accept these. Just want to make that clear....

regards

shemp

TFCash 08-31-2002 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the Shemp
You can put me on the list of sites that wont accept these. Just want to make that clear....

regards

shemp


Because the grayed thumbs go to the signup page ?? What about if the grayed out thumbs were linkless ?? We have a couple of customers that run paysites like that, they show the whole site on the front, but to get to the pic's or the actual movies you have to be a member. It seems to help with retention and signups, customer can never say they didn't know what was in the members area :)


Tim
:Graucho

the Shemp 08-31-2002 10:12 PM

No main stream TGP with any decent amount of traffic is going to accept a gallery thumb linked to a signup page. Pichunter's site is based on trades with mainstream TGPs (me included) and I'm not supporting this concept. If Pichunter goes with this, our trade is done, no big deal to him, I'm sure, but thats how I look at it.

I don't like unlinked thumbs either, its to easy to hotlink them after they have been posted.

regards

shemp

quiet 08-31-2002 10:18 PM

:)

TDF 08-31-2002 10:19 PM

I love the idea of having the pink and spread thumbs hidden with the grea area for members only...

FATPad 08-31-2002 11:12 PM

If you really want to reduce the amount of free porn on the internet, delete some of your pages.


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