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ARS denied me because the word lolita is on my site
Just got this mail from them after I applied yesterday for an account.
I was very surprised to read this since it's the first time a sponsor rejected my site. For the record my is is clean and I don't promote kiddie porn neither are there links listed to under age girls. Thank you for applying to become an ARS Publisher. Your application has been DENIED for the following reason(s): The word lolita was found on http://www.site.com The word young girl was found on http://www.site.com My god the term "young girl" is not allowed? How should one describe a teen with braces? How should one decribe the milton twins? Is Raven Riley not a young girl? Didn't knew she was a milf Now for the term lolita, just because some pedofiles use this term should it be a banned term to describe 25 year old women who dress up as a schoolgirl with a lollipop in their mouth? Because that is what a lolita is. I really wonder if they do proper site reviews at ars, because if they did they would have seen everything is legit. So far for the drama :upsidedow I mailed them and seriously hope they will change their mind. GFX3 |
If it walks like and quacks like must be.......
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Raven Riley is either a "girl" or a "young woman", a "young girl" is in most cases 1-14 year olds.
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Its just as well Nabakov didnt pick a more common name like Jane or sarah or something.
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For lolita, as you said the term has been totally abused in adult business. I can understand if they don't want to work with sites using that term. Just my opinion :2 cents:
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It's not just ARS, just so you know. They most likely have business dealings with other companies that won't allow those terms on the site. These types of restrictions and regulations are becoming widespread.
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Its been in their terms for years.
Young girl/young teen describes someone that is underage. |
I mailed them and explained I'm using these terms to have variation in my descriptions.
Teen Teenager, Woman, Young Woman Milf Older woman Mature lady Well one gets bored when he visits each day so the more terms the better. I also choose not to refer to women as bitches, sluts and so on. That is why I have to be a bit more creative and use lolita, young girl etc... With Cameron I can use princess so that's a nice change :) |
Where have you been, over a year ago most programs distanced themselves from anything using the word "lolita". Sponsor programs don't have endless amounts of time to check and continuously monitor affiliate sites. They simply place a few rules to abide by, if you can't at least follow them then don't expect them to accept you.
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I think it's funny that you are actually surprised. That term has been used for CP for a very long time, and as someone stated above, this is not something new. If you look at banned words in TOS, usually lolita is right up there as one of the first terms you can not use. Nothing new here...
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i agree with ARS...
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My domain doesn't even have the word sex in it. |
i got my account suspended AFTER i signed up for a sponsor because a tgp that i used for my site url had a trade with lolita mpegs. this was while i had a PPC campaign running. needless to say i wont be promoting them anymore. consider yourself lucky they actually reviewed the app and told you ahead of time.
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Some are describing teens as "tiny petite young schoolgirls" that sounds even worse than "young girl". If all sponsors made an issue out of it I would remove all lolita words but for just one I'm not going to filter thousands of links. |
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I hope they dont change their mind.. its up to them, they dont want their links next to the word lolita. |
just remove any references to it, and try again...
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Lolita's common for CP. So as the other person said, remove CP type things like 'lolita' and you should be fine. :pimp |
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WG |
since you filtered your actual domain out of your post, I assume you do feel guilty / wish to hide something.
that ARS is just a bot filter.. fix it and resubmit. life goes on .... |
I agree with ARS...
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they saved you the trouble both paycom and ccbill wont process a site they fing the L word on either
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I'd rather CP sites were selling 18+ material than not. I say, MARKET YOUR LEGAL PORN AS CHILD PORN - maybe those buyers will realize that overage girls are nice too... and thus, we have solved the ENTIRE problem.
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Submit a clean site and you will be good to go. However we will not allow any exceptions to our terms of service.
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Lolita used to be acceptable years ago, but now it's refused by the processors.
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The "l" word, least on the net, is too closely aligned with pedo.
Anything that remotely suggests "pedo"... like "young" is in the same category. Even "teen" gets contentious if this is not qualified in other ways. I'd sure agree with ARS on their decision. Try cleaning up the site of these words and try again. |
Applications and sites are reviewed by a combination of auto scripts and webmaster supports' own review of the application. We simply can not allow those terms to be used to promote the ARS portfolio.
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If the word lolita would be that bad google would have banned it. Besides this isn't just about lolita, you can't even write young girl.
I guess ARS is a very conservative porn selling company or they has trouble in the past with the word lolita and got scared. I mentioned my url in the post above and still don't see the real harm in using the word to describe 25 year olds licking lollipops from time to time. I feel strongly about the fact that pedofiles abused the word and not the adult industry. As long there isn't a law who forbids it to use I will keep using it. |
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The term "young girl", once again, can be borderline - but only within the context of adult websites. Ask yourself, what in normal commonplace thinking, is a "young girl"? Sure suggests someone less than say 18, to me. BTW.. there are also a few major hosts who will pull the plug on adult domains they find that need to use pedo words, - such as lolita. Any webmaster or "experienced surfer" knows damned well what these words mean in net world. |
ARS is right. So are the processors who inforce such rules
you are attracting pedo traffic this is unnecessary VERY unnecessary indeed |
I got a warning from ars about two years ago, before they collapsed and started again, about the term young girl on my sites. Those terms were left over from back in 2000-2001, before the panics started, when you could use those words and people knew you were referring to an 18 to 20 year old. The term was synonymous with teen then.
A days work with search and replace tools and I've never heard from them about it again. |
They have terms, try reading them.
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I agree with gfx3 on this one.
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gfx3. here is simple. Teen is 13-19. Young teen would be, well, 13-15?
THINK ABOUT IT! Lolita is clearly CP. THING ABOUT IT! Those are the rules. You don't like it, build for someone else. Simple, no? Alex |
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