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GTS Mark 09-05-2005 11:18 AM

I am CANADIAN (Rant!)
 
My name is Bob, and I am Canadian I am a minority in Vancouver, Banff, and every casino in this country.

I was born in 1945 , yet I am responsible for some native's great great grandfather who screwed himself out of his land in the 1800's.

I pay import tax on cars made in Ontario.

I am allowed to skydive and smoke, but not allowed to drive without a seat belt.

All the money I make up until mid July must go to paying taxes.

I live and work among people who believe Americans are ignorant. These same people cannot name this country's new territory.

Although I am sometimes forced to live on Kraft dinner and don't have a pot to piss in, I sleep well knowing that I've helped purchase a nice six figure home in Vancouver or Mississauga for some unskilled refugee.

Although they are unpatriotic and constantly try to separate, Quebec still provides my nation's prime ministers.

95% of my nation's international conflicts are over fish.

I'm supposed to call black people African Canadians, although I'm sure none of them have ever been to Africa, or east of Halifax for that matter.

I believe that paying a 200% tax on alcohol is fair.

I believe that the same tax on gasoline is also fair???

Even if I have no idea what happened to that old rifle my grandfather gave me when I was 14, I will be considered a criminal if I don't register it.

I often badmouth the United States and then vacation there three times a year. (Oh Yes)

I believe spending $15 billion to promote the French language in the rest of Canada is fair when the province of Quebec doesn't support or recognize the English language. (Aren't we nice?)

I'm led to believe that some lazy ass unionized broom pusher who makes $30 an hour is underpaid and therefore must go on strike, but paying $10 an hour to someone who works 12 hour shifts at forty below on an oil rig is fair.

I believe that paying $30 million for 3 Stripes ("The Voice of Fire") by the National Art Gallery was a good purchase, even though 99% of this country didn't want it or will ever see it.

When I look at my pay stub and realize that I take home a third of what I actually make, I say "Oh well, at least we have better health care than the Americans."

I must bail out farmers when their crops are too wet or too dry because I control the rain.

My national anthem has versions in both official languages and I don't know either of them.

Canada is the highest taxed nation in North America, the biggest military buffer for the United States, and the number one destination for fleeing terrorists.

I am not an angry white male. I am an angry taxpayer who is broke.

My name is Bob, and I am Canadian.

RoCkMaN 09-05-2005 11:33 AM

Bravo! Well said. I couldn't have done it better myself.

jact 09-05-2005 11:53 AM

Bob can afford gas? Lucky bastard!

Lance69 09-05-2005 11:59 AM

Damn, as a hardcore Liberal that hurts! :mad:
mostly because it's true :Oh crap

Paul Waters 09-05-2005 12:16 PM

Some truth some bullshit.

But I here ya!

Just remember that there are few truly Canadian breweries left:

http://www.moosehead.ca/images/mainBottle.jpg

DutchTeenCash 09-05-2005 12:17 PM

Must be amazing to be Canadian :)

Thumbking 09-05-2005 12:24 PM

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Lance69 09-05-2005 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
Must be amazing to be Canadian :)

You have no Idea!
Truthfully I've spent that last 10 years travelling the world and everytime I come back I do my best Dorothy impression..there's no place like home!
As for the Beer, I love the amount of homegrown microbrews on the west coast! Molson and Labatt's are good every once in a while but I love my Vancouver Island Breweries, and Honourable mention to Granville Island!
Cheers and Beers! :drinkup

Dalai lama 09-05-2005 12:27 PM

well said.

a1ka1ine 09-05-2005 12:27 PM

banff rocks its so beautiful

Dina_C9 09-05-2005 01:31 PM

:thumbsup you didn't mention the amazing weed we have

Paul Waters 09-05-2005 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dina_C9
:thumbsup you didn't mention the amazing weed we have

Grown in abandoned breweries!

:thumbsup

Elli 09-05-2005 01:39 PM

Yep, there's no place like home :)

But the taxes do suck badly. At least hockey is back on! Wooooot!

Spunky 09-05-2005 01:41 PM

If it wasn't for the damn taxes it would be perfect

sherie 09-05-2005 01:46 PM

LOL cute and for the most part, so very true. Gas prices are up today as high as $1.37 a ltr. Unfreakingreal the gouging that's going on!

Thomas1007 09-05-2005 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Yep, there's no place like home :)

But the taxes do suck badly. At least hockey is back on! Wooooot!

damn straight, go canucks!
:thumbsup

kaori 09-05-2005 01:52 PM

mm.. I love Banff :)

Kevsh 09-05-2005 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Yep, there's no place like home :)

But the taxes do suck badly. At least hockey is back on! Wooooot!

Another season of watching the Leafs do great during the season, then load up on 45-year-old has-beens at the deadline, kick Ottawa's ass in the first/second round before getting dumped badly in the next round ... and all the papers and radio call-in shows wonder why ...

I am Gord and I'm a (long-suffering) Leaf fan

(I, however, am Kevsh and I've never been a Leafs fan, thank God)

montrealpornking 09-05-2005 01:57 PM

Yah Canada is great. They fuck you all the way with the taxes and then make you think the medical program is free.
It ain't free, you are paying for it in your high taxes people and some extra left over.
Why do you think Canada has money left over at the end of the year and always has a positive cash flow in the last few years.

montrealpornking 09-05-2005 01:57 PM

The woman are cute though ;)

NoWhErE 09-05-2005 02:00 PM

If Canada would lower their tax on alcohol, it would be the perfect place to live in! :)

Lance69 09-05-2005 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montrealpornking
Yah Canada is great. They fuck you all the way with the taxes and then make you think the medical program is free.
It ain't free, you are paying for it in your high taxes people and some extra left over.
Why do you think Canada has money left over at the end of the year and always has a positive cash flow in the last few years.

Still though, my trainier in the US pays over 600/month in medical insurance! And obviously that's on top of his taxes. Gimme a few extra % of income tax so I don't have to deal with that anyday. :2 cents:

broke 09-05-2005 02:01 PM

I love Montreal, but the VAT is a killer.

I could spend a week in most places in Europe for the cost of a weekend in Quebec.

Elli 09-05-2005 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
Another season of watching the Leafs do great during the season, then load up on 45-year-old has-beens at the deadline, kick Ottawa's ass in the first/second round before getting dumped badly in the next round ... and all the papers and radio call-in shows wonder why ...

I am Gord and I'm a (long-suffering) Leaf fan

(I, however, am Kevsh and I've never been a Leafs fan, thank God)

Don't get me started on Canucks' heartaches. Now who do we have in net? Dan Cloutier? *sigh*

CDSmith 09-05-2005 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance69
Still though, my trainier in the US pays over 600/month in medical insurance! And obviously that's on top of his taxes. Gimme a few extra % of income tax so I don't have to deal with that anyday. :2 cents:

Exactly. Many people have their thinking on this completely ass-backwards. I would rather pay a little bit higher taxes than have the high private health insurance rates that many americans do. One of my family members in recent years had a 2-month stay in hospital. In the good ol' USA that stay would have cost our family over $100k easy... but here, on the day she was discharged, they handed us no bill whatsoever. Zero. Nothing.

O Canada!

detoxed 09-05-2005 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Exactly. Many people have their thinking on this completely ass-backwards. I would rather pay a little bit higher taxes than have the high private health insurance rates that many americans do. One of my family members in recent years had a 2-month stay in hospital. In the good ol' USA that stay would have cost our family over $100k easy... but here, on the day she was discharged, they handed us no bill whatsoever. Zero. Nothing.

O Canada!


the differenence is all the healthy people paid poor ole grannies medical bills

digi 09-05-2005 02:34 PM

Its always funny as a european to hear northern americans complain about their taxes.

Paul Waters 09-05-2005 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digi
Its always funny as a european to hear northern americans complain about their taxes.

Calling a Canadian a "northern american" while geographically accurate is pretty insulting.

We are not americans.

:mad:

Martin 09-05-2005 03:17 PM

Go Leafs GO!

Elli 09-05-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Waters
Calling a Canadian a "northern american" while geographically accurate is pretty insulting.

We are not americans.

:mad:

I was thinking he meant "North Americans".

aico 09-05-2005 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digi
Its always funny as a european to hear northern americans complain about their taxes.

Why is it funny? But, then again, other than Monty Python, I never really got the European sense of humor.

MetroPornTour 09-05-2005 04:23 PM

I'm a Quebecoise!

I feel your pain.. But really 3 vacations a year in the united states. I can't afford that!

Do what Quebec does. Stock you shelves with cheap american shit beer and give them even cheaper hookers. They will bring all the cross - border shopping goods you need for you.

WarChild 09-05-2005 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance69
Still though, my trainier in the US pays over 600/month in medical insurance! And obviously that's on top of his taxes. Gimme a few extra % of income tax so I don't have to deal with that anyday. :2 cents:

Only applies to the lower tax brackets.

For example, the last real job I had was a project manager. I made $90,000 a year and my combined income tax rate was around 43%.

My mother, an American, makes closer to $200,000 a year and her tax rate is somewhere in the mid-high 20%'s .. The number I seem to remember is about 27%.

The difference in our taxes, even on my substanially lower income, was about 16%. $90,000 * .16 = $14400. $14,400 / 12 = $1200 per month. Gee, $600 a month for health insurance sounds like a bargain to me, considering I'd have $600 more in my pocket every month. Being in the top tax bracket, I also had to pay in to my own health plan each year, it's not truly free. Prescription coverage not even included at this point. Thankfully my employer covered that.

If I had have been making $200,000 in Canada, the difference would have been even more staggering.

davidd 09-05-2005 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Exactly. Many people have their thinking on this completely ass-backwards. I would rather pay a little bit higher taxes than have the high private health insurance rates that many americans do. One of my family members in recent years had a 2-month stay in hospital. In the good ol' USA that stay would have cost our family over $100k easy... but here, on the day she was discharged, they handed us no bill whatsoever. Zero. Nothing.

O Canada!

Please refer to this thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=512818

You are basing your opinions on shit that is fed to you by the media. Count up how much taxes you pay for your medical care... then factor in the waiting periods for operations, and then research how much health insurance costs in the USA and you will see just how much you are being bent over. Also factor in how much a healthy person, non smoker, non-aids infected, needs health care under the age of 50... Are your eyes opening a little?

I will make it easier for you as most people with the socialist pie in the sky attitude find it hard to research things that may shatter their belief system.

Here is a quote on Health Insurance in the USA, when you see it, you might say, "WHY IS THE MEDIA TELLING ME IT IS A MAJOR ISSUE"

This quote is for a Single Male, age 32, non-smoker BUYING THE POLICY HIMSELF, MEANING NO ADVANTAGE OF GROUP DISCOUNTS (COMPANY SUPPLIED):

$2500 deductible (you pay $2500 then everything else is paid by the insurance company) $47 a month * 12 months = $564 a year.

$1000 deductible raised the monthly premimum to about $65

And did you also know that is most states in the USA, the poor and CHILDREN are given healthcare for free? Check out this link: http://www.floridakidcare.com

Oh, how horrible health insurance is in the USA... cry me a fucking river. Or Better yet, continue to believe what is fed to you, to justify your socialized medicine. The sheep who believe high taxes are justified are too blind to realize their money is being STOLEN!

Why is it every Canadian I know that lives in Florida for 4 months, while it is sub-artic in Canada, they all say, "I would rather be treated here, as I do not have to be put on a waiting list"

As an aside, your same argument is screamed from the rooftops in France, where they too accept the tax raping because they are told to look to the big evil USA's health 'CRISIS'.

WarChild 09-05-2005 05:01 PM

Luckily for me I now live in the tropics where I pay no income tax and enjoy warm weather year round. I'll go back to Canada to visit for the summers, because the summers are very nice. To maintain non-resident status I only need to spend 6 months plus a day outside of Canada each year.

I can't even tell you how much better I sleep at night knowing my money is in my bank account and not supporting natives, single welfare mothers and the French.

Kevsh 09-05-2005 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Don't get me started on Canucks' heartaches. Now who do we have in net? Dan Cloutier? *sigh*

Cloutier, egad. Okay I feel a little bit better... Good luck with all that !
:winkwink:

facialfreak 09-05-2005 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke
I love Montreal, but the VAT is a killer.

I could spend a week in most places in Europe for the cost of a weekend in Quebec.

HUH??? :eek7

When did we become part of the EU? I must have been too stoned and missed that memo! :pimp

GTS Mark 09-05-2005 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
I can't even tell you how much better I sleep at night knowing my money is in my bank account and not supporting natives, single welfare mothers and the French.

LMAO! :1orglaugh

DH

Ninja Scripts 09-05-2005 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie
LOL cute and for the most part, so very true. Gas prices are up today as high as $1.37 a ltr. Unfreakingreal the gouging that's going on!

Canada has to keep prices in line with the US which contributes somewhat.

davidd 09-05-2005 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Luckily for me I now live in the tropics where I pay no income tax and enjoy warm weather year round. I'll go back to Canada to visit for the summers, because the summers are very nice. To maintain non-resident status I only need to spend 6 months plus a day outside of Canada each year.

I can't even tell you how much better I sleep at night knowing my money is in my bank account and not supporting natives, single welfare mothers and the French.

You, my friend, truly understand.

I bang my head against the wall trying to tell people the harsh realities of nationalistic pride, and believing the party line.

People who have never lived outside their country of birth, in a place that takes them out of their comfort zone. Only then can they assess the entire situation with a clearer view.

If you are being raped in taxes, paying for services you never use, and accept this as being okay... You need to be deprogrammed. Before you reply, your reply will merely demonstrate your programming.

Look at this seriously:

You work in a country, and provide for yourself (and family), your government, often times in a distant place, completely does not support the views you hold to be righteous... You work 3 months, 4 months, 5 months, for this government's taxes... who's entire stated goal is to spend your tax dollars. They tell you that it is okay, and use a scape goat, that they themselves have demonized. You accept it as just, smoke some more weed (which they also endorse), and everything is okay. All the while claiming anyone else who points out the holes in this system, is a sheep, and simply does not understand.

Until people realize they are a consumer and the government's of the world are a vendor, your view is not clear. As a consumer you have the right to choose a different vendor that caters to your wants and desires. If you feel your country caters to all of your needs and paying whole chunks of a year's hard labor is justified, then stay. You are blessed, as this is a rare occurance.


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