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Bill Oreilly Vs Moore On NOW !!!!
I am at work can you tell me how it went and who came out looking like a jack ass ?
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yea i heard about it last night, watching it now
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what channel?
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moore isnt on yet, right now bill is talking to ben affleck
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Should be very interesting to see. :thumbsup |
???????? come on mofos give me the dirt :winkwink:
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Hey did you hear their new motto that's replacing fair and balanced.
FOX network, All Republican, All The Time ! |
I have it on now. My kid is itching to watch cartoons so it better be good.
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O'reilly got his ass handed to him IMHO-
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Moore can't handle the heat . . . . he is coming off worse than expected
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thats so funny guy says oreilly is getting his ass kicked and the guy directly under him says Moore can't handle him and looks bad.
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Anyone who thinks Moore looked good needs to tighten their helmet.
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I support moore but I agree he looked bad. :2 cents: |
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The point is he didnt look bad :)
He's just a movie maker, lol. To attach so much importance to a anti-bush movie is very telling.. Especially when possibly the biggest dig oreilly could make was that sadam killed so many of his own people. That was in the late 1980's in case people forget.. and we drove him out of Kuwait in 1991 and didnt do jack shit about him killing his own people. Ah well, didnt expect anything but a back and forth that didnt make much sense other than to expose hard liner views. Blind ideology indeed. |
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I'm going to give the victory to O'riely.
I dont necessarially like either, but moore kept trying to spin things, Asking someone if they would sacrifice their child to secure falujiah, Bill said, he would sacrifice himself. Moore kept pressing him though. I think bill had better points and examples, including when he said that if moore was president that he would have not taken hitler out. then moore said he would have never let hitler take power with is completely in conflict with his previous statement. |
anyone else pick up on how UNIFORMED michael moore actually is?
o'reilly could have dug into him alot harder if he really wanted to. a normal guest would have gotten it a lost worse. he actually let him ask more then one question in a row... |
Looked to me like Moore lit him up. I didn't see O'Reilly volunteering his kid to go fight, and I liked the way Moore brought him around full circle. BOR says that equating Saddam with the terrorists was a mistake, then he tries to say that we were fighting terrorism by removing Saddam.
I also noticed that BOR totally talked over Moore when Moore brought up the point that Bush wasn't given bad information, he INSISTED on bad information, and didn't accept any intelligence that didn't point to Saddam being linked to AQ. imho the dems need to drive this point home a little more forcefully. Bush wasn't what he is currently claiming to be, an innocent being fed bad information. He knew what information he wanted, he made it very clear to the intelligence community and he didn't stop until he got it. Cheney is STILL going around saying Saddam was tied in with AQ. Why? Because he knows that the conservative base, people like Theking, are so stupid that if he keeps saying it they'll keep believing it, regardless of how much evidence there is to the contrary. |
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Bush either is a liar, or severely incompetent and has yet to fire a single person for all these "mistakes" that he was apparently forced to swallow... Moore makes MOVIES for craps sake, lmao. Time for big brother.. |
BOR just got his ass handed to him. Did you see how he stumbled for words when asked what he would say to the parents of the 900 killed.
Fucking classic. |
Moore is blinded by his ideology. I was impressed by Ben Affleck. Hes a hollywood democrat, but came off very moderate and rational. Thats the tone a lot of people could learn from.
My take on Moore is people try to look for him to solutions. He has no solutions. The solutions he suggest arent realistic. Hes just a second guesser filmmaker who found a niche group he could take advantage of. |
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Moore made a total fool of himself, and BOR did let him off. I will be searching for a transcript if needed: BOR: All of the intelligence agencies were reporting to him there were WMD. Tenet looked Bush in the eye and said "WMD is a slum dunk." This was the information Bush was given, and you are calling what he did lying? Moore: Yes, it was a lie. If I said nothing was happening on the floor (of the DNC) right now, would it be a lie? BOR: Yes, we can see things are going on... Moore: No, I can't... but when I turn and look.... Finally in the second half BOR caught on to this and could have nailed him, but got side tracked. Equated to World War II this would be saying the president was presented with information that Hitler was committing genocide on every jew within his nation, and had plans to invade bordering nations to help further this cause, and simply wait until he saw a dead body to act. In which case, maybe we would have been better off waiting until Saddam used one of the WMD to try and stop him. We learned nothing from Sept. 11? |
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Moore looked out of place sitting there to me. He needs to step his debate game up. O'Reilly does this for a living night in and night out, going after people face to face. So I thought Moore looked decent given the circumstances. But O'Reilly was more convincing to me and seemed to have his facts more in order. I don't particularly like either one but I enjoyed watching them go head to head.
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Bottom line: Bush knew what he wanted to hear, he let everybody else know, and he wasn't listening to anything else that didn't support what he already knew he was going to do. Tenet had to say it was a slam dunk because Bush had just asked him if he now had justification to go after Iraq. Tenet knew what the boss wanted and tried to give it to him, like any good employee. |
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If Bill Clinton can get impeached over lying about a blow job, Bush would have cries for impeachment as well, 10 times as loud from both sides of the aisle when it concerns war. I defy you to give me evidence of this. And I am still waiting to see how Bush controlled the Russian government to give the same information, as well as the British government. If we KNEW it was bad information, and MI6 gets their information from us... Do I need to answer that? Do you remember when Saddam was saying "We don't have the WMD, come look?" Wait... that quote is on the same page as your "evidence of this bad information." Just like when a cop asks to search your car *with* probable cause, not permitting him to is as good as saying "I'm Guilty." And yes, we had plenty of probable cause with Hussein. End of story. |
OK so lets say Bush didn't lie, where is the apology for the mistake. That's what Moore was trying to get across, but you Bush lovers are too blind to see it.
Bush can't do anything wrong and he can't ride a bike either.:1orglaugh |
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