http://www.newamericancentury.org/
http://www.sundayherald.com/27735

Because most Americans like to have their thinking done for them.

Huh? "Anit-Bush Movie"

I thought it was a documentary

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

did someone record the show?

What's funny to me is all the conservatives bashing the movie when they haven't seen it.

The majority of the movie is clips of Bush using his own words. You really don't need to add much because he is such a fool.

The facts are that 9-11 happened on his watch. I am so tired of everyone saying it was clintons fault. Bush had 9 fucking months to do something and he didn't. I guess he was to busy making vacation plans.

Then when he did do something, he attacked the wrong country. If that's your idea of being strong on terror, well then you are a sheep.

I think Moore lost the argument. Going head to head with ORiley is no easy task, but Mike looked a bit unprepared for what he was getting himself into and ended up playing the defensive the entire time. That weakened his argument.

He kept saying that GWB lied about everything and Bill kepy coming back and saying he didn't lie. All Mike had to say was ignoring all of the evidence to the contrary is as bad as lying, but he refused to give up any ground to Bill. There were a couple of other incidents as well that Bill just talked over Mike and Mike couldn't get a coherent point across. The funny part was at the end where Bill says he was glad they had the argument and the public could decide, then goes back to the live broadcast and gives another minute talk about how Michael Moore was completely wrong and stupid, but he's no longer there to defend himself.

i also liked how moore said the us should of removed hitler before he'd done any of the things he did but it wrong for bush to do it saddam.

It was a useless waste of television time.

More good points get made in an episode of South Park.

Going head-to-head with O'Reilly is an exercise in futility. He debates by interrupting to the point of distraction.:glugglug

Link to the interview:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,127236,00.html

he only interrupts when people dont answer his questions

I find it interesting that of the 4 guests O'Reilly had on last night Michael Moore is the only one he taped and showed later. I can guarantee you it wasn't because MM was leaving Boston anythime soon:winkwink: At least MM insisted it be shown complete and unedited. Bill O'Reilly would have been stopping the tape every 30 seconds to add commentary:glugglug

This entire thread can be summed up in three points, the failure to understand and agree to any one of which marks the reader as dense:

1. Michael Moore is an idiot. Packaging lies and half-truths that appeal to the stupid as a documentary is just wrong.

2. George Bush is an idiot and a liar. Not because he dragged us into a war (everyone on the planet agreed Iraq still had WMD, including Germany, France and Russia), but because he sold himself to us as a moderate when in fact he is to the right of Atilla the hun.

3. O'reilly is pompus and full of himself, but often on the correct side of things as was the case here, because on the idiot scale, Moore by far tops all of the aforementioned idiots.

Wow....someone that paid attention.

I also find it amusing that Michael Moore kept talking about kids. These are 18 year olds that join the military of their OWN choice, and their parents can't do anything about it, as they are considered ADULTS. If they want to join the military, they do. Michael Moore can't make that choice for them and neither can O'rielly....the only choice that ANY adult in the US can make about it is FOR THEMSELVES. So MM asking BOR if he would sacrifice hsi own child is just silly. When BOR's child is over 18, they will make that choice for themselves, no matter what BOR says.

Anyone who thinks that 9/11 is the fault of any President has not been paying much attention .

Quote:

Then when he did do something, he attacked the wrong country. If that's your idea of being strong on terror, well then you are a sheep.

when he "did do something" he attacked afghanistan. destroyed all the terrorist based and destroyed the Taliban regime which had been protecting Osama Bin Laden and all those who trained there in spite of the fact that the US had tried for 4 years through diplomacy to get the Taliban to hand him over.

Interesting.

did anyone record the happening? i'd love to see it.

Guess what, I was paying attention, kinda had to living 2 blocks south of the wtc.

If he's gonna take credit for his so called "war on terror", he needs to take the blame too. He sure likes using the images in his ads to get his ass re-elected too.

Moore is a fucking idiot, only fools listen to anything he says, he doesnt give a fuck about america he gives a fuck about himself and making $, he could feed you people anything and you would agree with him just because he is "different".

Where you live has nothing to do with the notion of claiming that a president caused 9/11... and doing something about it hardly makes him responsible for everything before the fact... using that logic one could say that doing nothing after the fact would also absolve him of any responsibility.

Your logic would also dictate that Clinton was eaqually responsible since attacks happened on his watch and he retaliated as well.

Ya know what , I never really blamed the president. I blame his whole staff for not taking it serious enough. I get tired of hearing that he is our great savior from evil. When push comes to shove, you have to throw blame to both administrations.

At least Clinton was doing something about it, and told Bush that it should be his top priority when he took office.

Go check out Richard Clarks book from the local library, and put down the comics. You might want to read the 9-11 comission report while your at it.
I don't think Bush is an idiot in reality, just a very simple soul. He also has some really bad people surrounding him.

By the way, did you see that Cheney's old company just got another contract.

$500 million from the navy this time. I'm sure he had nothing to do with that.

More of Moores 'facts' disputed

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...L&SECTION=HOME

hmmm...

http://www.saintpetersburgtimes.com/...ies_flig.shtml