Is that makeup I see?

ah we dont get fox news here

im hoping they ban CNN as well

Well truth be told, it was a fucking lie. Go read the Richard Clark book. They had these plans on the shelf when they got into office. I look at this book as the most informative, because he worked for so many presidents in the same capacity.

Basically says Bush isn't stupid, just very simple.

Because Democrats are far more responsible than Republicans. We don't misuse powers that are intended for use only in worst-case scenarios, such as overt criminal action. We are more interested in the health and functionality of this nation than we are in our own power.

Unlike you irresponsible, reckless fucking republicans.

You might have missed the point of what I ment to say... I was meaning to say Clinton lies about a blow job, Bush lies on this grand scale, you have hard core proof and nothing is being done about it? I find that VERY hard to believe.

This is also to reply to the person who spoke about the Richard Clarke book, with all of that information and evidence, I don't see anyone getting their panties up in a bunch to get him impeached, do you?

If the guy wrote a book, already there's more information to impeach him on than what we had on Clinton... no? Less politics more action.

did you read my post, or just having trouble with comprehension?

Bill O?Reilly is a complete idiot.

He seems to ignore all logic and argues like a fifth grader.

I have never watched O'Reilly before but I sat through some of his "interviews" waiting to see what happens with Michael Moore.

I am now completely convinced that only the uninformed and illogical can sit through a Bill O'Reilly show.

and what a great job they do at it too... what democratic program is responsible? EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED BY A DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS FAILED TO MEET ITS OBJECTIVES. and then they try and fix them by fucking up other programs.

social security is a fucking mess because of the reckless spending by IRRESPONSIBLE democrats. if they gave two shits about the people they say they do, they would solve their problems instead of throwing money at them.

dig420 I've read your post and it pans out to one thing: you don't have the evidence to do anything about it.

What exactly is a worst-case scenario? I remember you democrats wanting to go straight to court over a Florida election... If you're more interested in the health of this nation than your power, I guess prolonging an election for months and taking it to the SUPREME COURT and making your constituants DOUBT THE ELECTION PROCESS is healthy compared to sending kids off to a war based on a "LIE" which you have proof of.

Obviously if you democrats had the evidence, they would be voting on it now.

If the initial count had favored Gore, with all the bullshit about Katherine Harris and Jeb in Florida going on in the bg the Repubs would have declared a revolution. We'd STILL have an interim president.

One thing I know about you conservatives though is that words are wasted on you. If you had the ability to see reason you wouldn't be a conservative in the first place.

Once again I will say it, tell me how the election counts in Florida in the 2000 election is worthy of taking to the supreme court, but this evidence you have of George Bush LYING TO THE COUNTRY and DISCOUNTING INTELLIGENCE TO ACHIEVE A PREDETERMINED ANSWER is not worth impeachment.

If this information is true on Bush, and you claim to have evidence.... I would love to see it (no sarcasm.)

Then I want you to explain to me how you have this evidence, along with people in power (democrats in congress) AND HE IS STILL IN OFFICE. Along with an explanation of how this is more healthy to the country by not impeaching him, and I would gladly -- on this day become a liberal democrat for the rest of my life, and vote as one.

My imitation of a republican.......baaaaaaaaaaaaa

Why are you all a bunch of angry sheep.

We need a fucking president that speaks for the regular people.

regular people dont get represented because they are trying to survive and cant get off work to go vote.

Speaking of sheep and what it implies, where is this evidence? Where is this hardcore evidence that all of you democrats base your hatred for Bush at that I'm waiting for?

:1orglaugh

How many billions/trillions has the US thrown away on iraq so far? Something far more than what any democrat ever threw away.

I think the point is that Bush was given bad information . . . . by everyone . . . . from every country's intelligence

ware can i read it?:Graucho

see ya in 2008

please kill yourself

Oh give me a break.....What bull shit is that.

I have not seen it yet, but you got to wonder why would Moore step into the Lions den with O Reilly? This is what Bill O Reilly does ever day, with out seeing it I am sure Moore had his head handed to him...He is a film director....not a talk show man.

Then here is the other side of it, why is Fox News still head and shoulders above the network new stations?....kind of makes you wonder ?:2 cents:

Will give my full opinion tonight after watching show...

All I can say is Moore is a peice of shit and should return his oscar.

Hope Oreilly lays into him.

Excellent point Baddog, so easy to point the finger or play arm chair quarterback...the most difficult of time for this country...

Not once did I see someone say anything about our troops, and that we are at War..did not see Tricky Bill Clinton or Big Butt Hillary say anything? :Graucho

I love how bill wouldn't say he would send his kid there and that he would go.... Yeah right.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The only one who makes any sense in this thread as far as the argument goes is dig420

I dont watch christian news orgs like Fox but whats even worse is watching or listening to anything O'Reilly says or does and getting enthused about it.

Jesus this topic brought out the idiots from both sides didnt it.
Here's an oppinion from the outside.

-Moore defined using inacurate information unknowingly 'lying' which i think is pretty stupid. Especially when it comes from supposedly reliable sources such as the CIA. As stupid as it may be, it is not lying.
-O'reilly didn't ask the correct questions....could have done alot better.
-Moore used emotional and pointless argument when asking if O'reilly would sacrifice his son for falluja.

In summary......Moore was able to avoid O'reilly quite well by taking up time arguing definitions rather than issues. If I were O'reilly I would have asked him questions relating to the inaccuracies in his films, whether he believed his films were documentaries or entertainment, why he doesn't move abroad if its apparently far greatr etc.

Any oppinions?

The reason you never hear any conservatives ask about the inaccuracies in his film is because there are none. However, nobody who listens exclusively to Fox news would know this or even be able to digest the information if it's spelled out to them letter by letter.

In fact, I think it's hilarious listening to conservative assclowns talking about the integrity of Fox news even AFTER a documentary came out that has real time footage of them framing their information according to the command of the Republican Party. If Bush went on national television and said he was a Nazi that liked to sodomize small colored children, the weird-ass conservative pornographers here wouldn't abandon Bush. They'd go find some small colored children of their own and congratulate themselves on how much better their sex lives are than the Democrats.

In summary, conservatives are angry sheep with deep emotional problems.

Pig shit.

I did not read the thread, but let me guess what its about...

liberals that hate republicans, conservatives and bush... .still hate republicans, conservatives and bush.

conservatives think michael moore is full of shit and nothing more than a disturbed propagandist that hates america and a liar.

*yawn*

translation: if you don't agree with me, you must be wrong

pfft . . . give me a break Bernie . . . you are obviously the most angry person in this thread . . . I hate to think what the next 4 years are going to do to you

not exactly . . . I am hardly a conservative, don't like Bush (but am not convinced that a) Kerry is the answer; or b) that Kerry can beat him), and think Moore is a total asshat.

I happened to watch Roger and Me (can't believe the grammar) the other night. I have not seen it in many years, so this was the first time I looked at is as a "documentary" and I have to say, Moore has always been an idiot. Perhaps a Communist ideologist, but a definite idiot.

oreilly needs a kick in tha nuts

i think Moore does a great job at doing exactly what he is trying to do.. get people to talk about what he feels are important issues. it's unfortuneate that he does not have the talent to do it without distorting reality so much, but then again, it just makes people talk even more.

I too...am not a conservative...and I too do not like Mr. Bush holding the title of President...but I do not dislike Moore...because I accept him for what he once stated on the now defunct Politically Correct show that he is..."an entertainer that is laughing all the way to the bank". Some of the uninformed/misinformed began to take him seriously and he has gone along...playing the role...and I am sure...he is still laughing all the way to the bank.

you must be a conservative sheep if you don't agree with me :winkwink:

In fact Reagan and Rumsfeld didn't really mind Saddam gassing people, they helped him with the material for that and he even got a handshake from Rumsfeld personally. Good job Saddam! As long as you listen to the US you can do whatever you want.