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Why 99.9% of TGP/MGP Submitters earn $0.00
And there are some who earn tens of thousands of dollars daily.
Lets talk about a few of the big mistakes, this should help some people here, not intended to bash anyone. A few pointers and I hope others will add to it. Common one: What sponsor has hosted galleries? = TGP submitter about to convert NADA Anyone making decent money submitting to TGP's and MGP's grabs content from a members area and creates their own templates etc, most affiliate programs offer free FTP hosting. Yeah I know its hard to grab content from a site based on plugins but guess what surfers are becoming smarter daily and can spot a plugin site quick. Its funny the last thing a TGP/MGP submitter will blame is themselves, everyone is at fault but them, the hosting company sucks, third party billers save everything etc. List some other common mistakes. |
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And most if not all exclusives can be used wherever however you want. |
Most people also give up after a month or so. The first month(s) you won't make shit.
Also, without partner accounts you won't get anywhere these days. I'm speaking from my own experience. |
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Its so easy to make money submitting galleries. It really doesnt take a high iq to figure it out you need good templates, a good sponsor, non over saturated pics, a good submit program (non automatic) and partner accounts.
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> Why 99.9% of TGP/MGP Submitters earn $0.00
Too many porn for free |
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again, going back to the gay market, a lot of sites with exclusive stuff just shit themselves if you use their content on a tgp. i dunno why, its their loss. |
Build your own submit list and group the recips intelligently.
As a owner of several black tgps... I see galleries submitted by auto submitters everyday..... Nothing pisses me off more than seeing my recip with some shemale or gay site.... I have banned for less |
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I have exclusive content, a fresh site and decent design skills but I am still spinning my wheels as far as gallery submission goes. If you can recommend MGPs worth posting to where the webmaster actually gets around to approving partner accounts, let me know. SpaceAce |
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Most of the traffic to paysites are from TGPs/MGPs and SE's Again blame it on free porn, blame it on shaving, blame it on slow hosting but the truth is if you take the time and are creative you can make lots of money. |
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Luckily 3 more rise to take his place. :1orglaugh |
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It's all about traffic quality. That's what determines how well you'll do in this business.
If you have shit traffic you'll make nothing. If you have uniquely procurred and/or targeted traffic you'll do fine. And of course you need a presentation that sells also with unique looking pics. |
Submitting one gallery daily for years now, always used content from bulk deals like "100 sets for $999" In my experience what you're promoting is much more important then the content you use on your galleries.
Last year I decided to design custom tours (with exclusive content) and link to join pages of sponsor programs. Instantly the monthly revenue went from $2000 to $3500/$4000. "What I can't understand is why sponsors allow join page linking nowadays. I make the surfer horny with my exclusive tour, the surfer signs up and sees a bunch of plugins. Very likely he will cancel right away, but $35 in my pocket for a $2,99 trial." Also I would advice to submit galleries in a niche you are fimiliar with and it also helps if you know the webmasters in that niche. You can get more signups being listed at 10 quality niche tgp's then using russiansubmitter and submit to 1000 tgp's. Just my experience/opinion....... |
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Most start submitting gallereis cause they think it is easy money. I submitted galleries fulltime for 3 years straight and the start is always tough, as in most jobs.
Its just not easy if you start gallery submitting (specially nowadays) and people start bitching about everything when they don't see a sale within the first week. Work on your marketing skills, work on the best way to crop your thumbs, dont think it is easy, etc etc /////////////////// quoted form a post from basschick ////////////// 1. keep the ad in a central location that the eyes are naturally drawn to 2. describe what is good AND different about the product you're selling. to me, it's obvious that there is NOTHING different about having thousands of pics in a paysite. what about that paysite stands out from the herd? what niche is it? babes? there are a thousand sites about babes - what is different about these babes? 3. make sure your content represents what you are marketing. don't put up an ugly 30 year old chick and say she's a babe or a teen. if you want to use her, make an avs site about "average chicks" and use her to market that. 4. use keywords and trigger phrases. don't be afraid to use a strong keyword twice on a page. if your gallery is uncut cocks, you can say "UNCUT" in both the top and bottom links. 5. don't make the links to your sponsor subtle!!! a lot of us our trained to be subtle, but in advertising you have to be obvious. you can tell your surfer to click, make the text fairly large, make it a bright color. as long as it doesn't fuck up your gallery's appearance, let the surfer notice the sponsor links as soon as he notices the thumbs. 6. don't rely on sponsor banners. always use some linked text to sell a site, and pick the banner with the most of whatever the site is about on it. /////////////////// quoted form a post from basschick ////////////// :2 cents: |
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You need the free porn teasers to sell memberships. What I do think would be good is if submitters knock some common scence in their head as well as paysite owners and figure out the difference between a teaser and between jerkoff material. To many times ive come across galleries that has 40 pics or long movies allowing people to just get off for free. |
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anyway i see what your point is :glugglug |
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Words of wisdom: SEO all sites enough so that they'll be spidered and archived for quite some time.
Network, network, network. In the TGP game, it's not what you know, but who you know. If you're not in yet, your only hope is making nice with people at shows, or by offering services in exchange for listings. Use unique templates. You'd be surprised at how many sites won't list the same templates repeatedly, yet they'll list similar content if the gallery template is a huge variation. I've seen it done hundreds of times and it never fails. It's the template that gets you listed the majority of the time. Make sure you list your galleries in the right niches. If you market a facial site in an asian category because the talent is Asian, you're losing out. The surfer will not join a multi-racial facial site if they are seeking strictly asian. Monitor your stats and don't submit to sites that won't list you. It's always a good thing to keep your submit list fresh and up to date. Why waste time recip'ing on TGP's that won't list you? |
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this has become a pretty interesting thread
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You know after all it depends on your marketing skills, I think it is funny when I read posts about people not/hardly making any sales when listed on theHun and blame him for having a freeloaders paradise. While others make 10-20-or even more sales from the same listing :) |
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