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SuckOnThis 05-11-2004 11:00 PM

Strange info emerging about Berg killing
 
Oddities surrounding the execution of Nick Berg: Berg was a prisoner of the U.S. military in Iraq. West Chester contractor missing in Iraq (May. 08, 2004, Associated Press) Nick Berg, 26, owned a business called Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc. He first went to Iraq on Dec. 21. He stayed until Feb. 1, making contact with a company that indicated there would likely be work for him later. But he returned on March 14 and there was no work, so he began traveling. He usually called home once a day and e-mailed several times; Michael Berg is his business manager, and they needed to stay in touch... When FBI agents arrived at the Berg's West Chester home on March 31, they were relieved to know their son was alive, but in jail. The agents questioned them about various details that only they and their son would know about. Jerri Williams, spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI office, said the agency was "asked to interview the parents regarding Mr. Berg's purpose in Iraq." On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military in Iraq. The next day, April 6, Nick Berg was released. Nick Berg said he would come home through Jordan, Turkey or Kuwait... The Bergs have hounded the State Department, the FBI and the International Committee of the Red Cross, seeking information. Michael Berg said the State Department sent an official to Nick Berg's hotel, where an employee told the official they had not heard of him.

Berg interrogated by FBI for two weeks (May 7, 2004 5:27 pm US/Eastern) Among those missing in Iraq is a West Chester, Pa. man who went there on his own in March to inspect damaged radio towers... 26-year-old Nick Berg didn't sign a privacy waiver when he went over there. And even though the State Department is using its one person in Iraq to help track him down, they can't tell anyone, including Berg's parents what's going on. Nick last checked in April 9th, saying he was trying to find a safe way home following two weeks of FBI interrogation, after an arrest in Mosul. He was released after his identity and intentions were confirmed.

Rob 05-11-2004 11:03 PM

What's so strange about that? :eek7

SuckOnThis 05-11-2004 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
What's so strange about that? :eek7
Oh, and it makes perfect sense that a JEWISH white man would be wandering around Iraq looking for business?

Missing for a month and just reported on the 7th of May? Two weeks of Gestapo questioning. Pretty strange.

Why did it just "happen" to be a guy who was held for 2 weeks by the Americans...
What? he gets out and the next day he's picked up by Al Quada(who by the way are not native to Iraq)--after this people will think that Al Quada are Iraqis (none are) --and that Iraq did 911 and that this shows that we did "right" by torturing those awful A-rabs.

Seems so unlikely for this sort of a thing to happen and just in time to give a big brownie point boost to Rumsfeld at a time when he was as good as gone.

chupacabra 05-11-2004 11:29 PM

another victim of *operation meat shield*..

Honeyslut 05-11-2004 11:37 PM

I wish it was warmer in Canada. I just can't stand to see what is so obvious.

It's a fucking shame. Poor guy.

Global Dialers 05-11-2004 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by chupacabra
another victim of *operation meat shield*..
operation meat cleaver dont you mean ;)

unconnected 05-12-2004 12:16 AM

I was going to say that this video sure did come up rather coincidentally with the abuse allegations.. Sure is a great way to take the heat off of bush's back..
but even if it is true, there are far too many pro-war, gotta kill me some *insert clever and witty racial slur of your choosing here* as they can't be trusted and should all die, kind of people filling the USA to the brim for it to make any difference at all in the minds of the general public

VicMartin 05-12-2004 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by Global Dialers
operation meat cleaver dont you mean ;)
How can you joke around about this?

KRL 05-12-2004 01:55 AM

I fear the very worst here.

I think we just witnessed a splanned and coordinated sacrificial lamb setup by the US to take attention off of the US attrocities.

Fuck, now that is very very scary if that is indeed what went down here.

kmanrox 05-12-2004 02:00 AM

you queens are funny

cortezzz 05-12-2004 02:03 AM

the truth is outside.. not on cnn.

Internet God 05-12-2004 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I fear the very worst here.

I think we just witnessed a splanned and coordinated sacrificial lamb setup by the US to take attention off of the US attrocities.

Fuck, now that is very very scary if that is indeed what went down here.

I agree.

Joe Citizen 05-12-2004 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I fear the very worst here.

I think we just witnessed a splanned and coordinated sacrificial lamb setup by the US to take attention off of the US attrocities.

Fuck, now that is very very scary if that is indeed what went down here.

This is how it is all beginning to look.

Scary indeed.

Joe Citizen 05-12-2004 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by kmanrox
you queens are funny
says the tranny fucker.

ytcracker 05-12-2004 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I fear the very worst here.

I think we just witnessed a splanned and coordinated sacrificial lamb setup by the US to take attention off of the US attrocities.

Fuck, now that is very very scary if that is indeed what went down here.

that would be fucking insane

Odin88 05-12-2004 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
This is how it is all beginning to look.

Scary indeed.

Scary why? You fear you might of partied over his death too soon? Better put the party hats away Joe - until the next American civilian is killed that is.

WarChild 05-12-2004 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Oh, and it makes perfect sense that a JEWISH white man would be wandering around Iraq looking for business?

Yes it does seem a little odd, doesn't it. I guess that'd be a good reason for American intelligence to detain and question this man.

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Missing for a month and just reported on the 7th of May? Two weeks of Gestapo questioning. Pretty strange.

What makes you think it was "Gestapo" questioning. Nobody has suggested this man was mistreated in Iraq by US forces. He was held, but "Gestapo" is an attempt to induce paranoia. Let's stick to the facts.

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Why did it just "happen" to be a guy who was held for 2 weeks by the Americans....

Americans in Iraq are all targets. A civilian, travelling without benfit of millitary or private security seems like an ideal target.

I'm not saying I know for sure what happened here. HOWEVER .. sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

samuel 05-12-2004 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by unconnected
I was going to say that this video sure did come up rather coincidentally with the abuse allegations.. Sure is a great way to take the heat off of bush's back..
but even if it is true, there are far too many pro-war, gotta kill me some *insert clever and witty racial slur of your choosing here* as they can't be trusted and should all die, kind of people filling the USA to the brim for it to make any difference at all in the minds of the general public

I agree with you, this could be a coincidence with abuse allegations...

Samuel

TheMob 05-12-2004 02:25 AM

I wouldn't jump the gun on conspiracy theories... but it seems like this whole thing's just gonna get dirtier and dirtier.

WarChild 05-12-2004 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by samuel
I agree with you, this could be a coincidence with abuse allegations...

Samuel

Well the people in the tape did SAY it was in return for the prisoner abuses.

JFK 05-12-2004 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I fear the very worst here.

I think we just witnessed a splanned and coordinated sacrificial lamb setup by the US to take attention off of the US attrocities.

Fuck, now that is very very scary if that is indeed what went down here.

Wag the Dog..........:2 cents:

webmaster x 05-12-2004 03:38 AM

Not that strange but scary.

Buff 05-12-2004 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I fear the very worst here.

I think we just witnessed a splanned and coordinated sacrificial lamb setup by the US to take attention off of the US attrocities.

Fuck, now that is very very scary if that is indeed what went down here.

What the fuck????

Get your prescription renewed asap, lunatic.

flashfreak 05-12-2004 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I fear the very worst here.

I think we just witnessed a splanned and coordinated sacrificial lamb setup by the US to take attention off of the US attrocities.

Fuck, now that is very very scary if that is indeed what went down here.

what he said ! :thumbsup

EviLGuY 05-12-2004 05:31 AM

This just proves that people love conspiracys. :winkwink:

Its like that Mel Gibson Conspiracy Theory movie.

Do you keep your coffee in containers with a combination lock? :Graucho

KRL 05-12-2004 06:20 AM

If you look at the history of the US Government, especially our powerful intelligence agencies, and military industrial sector, they have shown over and over that they think they can operate above the law.

Anything is possible with these guys. If you doubt that just do some research.

crockett 05-12-2004 06:38 AM

There is no doubt in my mind that people in the CIA could and would do something like that. However I'm not so quick to jump on the conspiracy band wagon. We do have many American private contractors over there. If he went on his own with out the benefit of protection he was a walking target and very stupid.

I know a guy that is a ex Army Ranger, he was involved in the whole Somalia deal and took a few bullets. He is now a security contractor in Iraq. He knows his shit and says things are a lot more fucked up over there than what you see on TV. He claims that it's not the minorty but the majorty that hates anyone, not only Americans but anyone from any westren crountry. The Middle East is not a pretty place for a white person to be traveling at this time.

jimmyf 05-12-2004 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I fear the very worst here.

I think we just witnessed a splanned and coordinated sacrificial lamb setup by the US to take attention off of the US attrocities.

Fuck, now that is very very scary if that is indeed what went down here.

get serious, some of you people are just 2 fucking much

Ironhorse 05-12-2004 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
If you look at the history of the US Government, especially our powerful intelligence agencies, and military industrial sector, they have shown over and over that they think they can operate above the law.

Anything is possible with these guys. If you doubt that just do some research.

If you read history in general, you will find that much stranger things have happened in this world. The problem is most people don't read any history older than maybe their parents, so they have nothing to compare things to. It's sad really, but ignorance is bliss :2 cents:

SuckOnThis 05-12-2004 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I fear the very worst here.

I think we just witnessed a splanned and coordinated sacrificial lamb setup by the US to take attention off of the US attrocities.

Fuck, now that is very very scary if that is indeed what went down here.

Nothing would surprise me with this administration. Look at what all this does for Bushco.

1. Now the prison abuses don't look so bad and it takes attention away from it.

2. The Iraq war has turned into a disaster and Bush knows it. It is completely out of control and more and more people (54% in the latest poll) think it was a mistake. With the beheading more people think we did the right thing.

3. 6 months before the election and Bushes popularity continues to fall, what better thing to get the people behind him again, an act by the 'enemy' so shocking people once again will feel we need 'a war president' in charge.

I'm not saying I have no doubt Bushco was behind this but the timing is very odd along with other things. I mean the man has already killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, so whats one more life to save his re-election.

Mike AI 05-12-2004 09:32 AM

Doesn't Bush already give you enough ammunition to rail against him and the US? Why resort to wild conspiracy theories?? It only makes you look like kooks.

Oh I forgot, you are a bunch of kooks!

Never mind.

:1orglaugh

xenophobic 05-12-2004 09:38 AM

they reported earlier that they believe al-Zarqawi was the person performing the execution, didn't look like he had a wooden leg to me.

C-Bass 05-12-2004 09:42 AM

Sacraficing a singler person for the well being of the Presidential power in times of election doesnt seem far fetched to me.

Its very sad to just begin to imagine what the government keeps from its people in a supposedly "Democracy" where things are meant to be FOR the people and BY the people.


Goin to hell i say.....here we go....

Lane 05-12-2004 09:45 AM

You should always look at who is in benefit.

doober 05-12-2004 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Buff
What the fuck????

Get your prescription renewed asap, lunatic.

you are way crazier than him for thinking it isnt possible.
IMHO KRL is prolly the only one that sees what i have been seeing all along.
Hard to own up to it if your an american but nonetheless very real and very fucking likely



DOnt foget to Vote Bush guys

:thumbsup

Sambo 05-12-2004 09:48 AM

I dont think it is a conspiracy.....

BUT..... if it comes out later that it was CIA, then I wont be surprised

In fact I dont think anything will surprise me again!!

TheFrog 05-12-2004 09:49 AM

suspected something like this

xenophobic 05-12-2004 09:50 AM

By the way, we're talking about the same people who killed thousands of Americans in all different countries, it seems odd to some people that someone wondering through Iraq with no plan to get home was captured and taken hostage by Al-Quada?

It doesn't even seem odd to me he was taken into custody, if he did not have a current contract in Iraq and was wondering around in a warzone the U.S of course is going to want to know what he is doing there?

I hope they release more information about this.

directfiesta 05-12-2004 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by Sambo
I dont think it is a conspiracy.....

BUT..... if it comes out later that it was CIA, then I wont be surprised

In fact I dont think anything will surprise me again!!

CONSpiracy... NO WAY !!!

The good old US of A would never do that, It is the righteous country, the one that respects differences in cultures, languages, religions and skin color...

It is the one that delivers democracy when called upon to help... Ther one that is able to identify the countries of the " axis of evil", the " "wrongdoers and the evildoers ".... It is the one that has as mission to remove ALL the abusing dictators, with " moral reward" as sole benefit ...

It is the one that will bring peace to the middleast with it's " ROAD MAP TO PEACE"....

Never would such a great country, with it's great allies, do such a thing as a covert operation....

Put away your tinfoil hats, you leftist anti-patriotic Kerry voters!!!! and support the troops ....

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In the Philippines

In the late 1980s, the CIA assigned Vietnam veteran U.S. General John Singlaub to organize anti-communist vigilante groups all over the country for mass terror, particularly as part of the Philippine government's "total war policy" against people's movements. General Singlaub posed as an American "treasure hunter" and even secured all the necessary official permits for treasure hunting in the Philippines. Another operative active in the "total war" operations in the Philippines was Vietnam counterinsurgency specialist Col. James Rowe, Joint US Military Advisory Group (JUSMAG) adviser, whose cover was blown off when he was ambushed in 1989 by urban guerrillas of the New People's Army in Timog Avenue, Quezon City. Rowe was clandestinely involved in the organization of anti-communist death squads like Alsa Masa and vigilante groups patterned after "Operation Phoenix" in Vietnam which had the objective of eliminating legal and semi-legal mass activists and their political sympathizers that constituted the political infrastructure of the insurgency movement.


One even more fucked up:

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Before this, the CIA had made every effort to assure the defeat of Recto in the 1957 presidential election wherein the CIA manufactured and distributed defective condoms with a label that said, "Courtesy of Claro M. Recto--the People's Friend." Could it be that Recto was a victim of the CIA's covert operations, or what they call "executive action" against those perceived as dangerous enemies of the United States?
Everything is possible, even Berg could have been MOSSAD....

xenophobic 05-12-2004 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Everything is possible, even Berg could have been MOSSAD....
Yes, he could also have been a twenty six year old, who wandered around in a war zone, and got taken hostage by people affiliated to Al-Quada.

They released a declaration that they would reward the murder of any <B>american citizen</B> and an american citizen got murdered, perhaps it has something to do with the earthquake generator the CIA has up on the moon?


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