So I don't keep up with Russian politics...
 

However it seems they are very pissed at Putin. Seems kinda funny because it was only a few years back they praised him like he was the messiah.

Obviously everyone out side Russia already knew Putin was nothing more than a criminal thug. Did the Russians finally figure this out and are mad at him?

Serious question, what was the final tipping point that Russians finally became so anti-Putin? (I mean prior to him rigging this latest election)

Who are "they"? You can read my posts here made about 7 years back and see that: I never voted for Putin, and I never considered him a good president for my country. The same applies to almost everyone I know here in Russia.

Obviously you didn't know (and don't know now) even a quantum about him. It's the same if I told you that Russians know Obama much better than Americans. Sorry, but it's a pure nonsense.

There were two points:
1) His chair-exchange with Medvedev (these morons believe they are wise enough to decide it w/o asking us - the Russian citizens)
2) The mass falsification the parliament election results.

I did never say that Russia is a democratic country (because it's just a myth in ANY other country) however even here, the two points mentioned above were too much for us.

Putin runs russia, president or no president. medvedev was his puppet. everyone knows this.

Putin dont have evoices like Bush had :)

Let's see , Putin approval rating from 75% down to 50% approval rating. Yeah, Sure seems like he is hated by all the Russians.

Any one of these puppets we have in this country would die to have that kind of rating.

Dopes!

i used to have hope for russian politics up until point when heard recently putin balloting for a 3rd term with plans to have medvedev as prime minister, it's looking like they can do this switching back and forth indefinitely 'legitimately', additionally they've extended presidency term to 6 years from 4 years, starting with next presidential term.

it finally became too obvious that Putin gives a shit what people think or want

he's former high ranking KGB officer, to expect democratic behavior from him would be like expecting a lion to become vegetarian in a slaughterhouse

Although i may like a certain politician i would not want them in for another term ... maybe alot of them think in such a manner

Sure, we are used to believe that we are clever as the others...

How arrogant and idiotic are you to think that "everyone outside Russia" understands what they are talking about?

I trust the two blog posts here, and here will answer your questions. :thumbsup

I'll also post the spoiler here:

Conclusion

It is quite clear that the National Endowment for Democracy, Freedom House, the Foreign Policy Initiative, and even the US State Department whose new foreign affairs advisory board is full of think-tanks representing overt corporate-financier interests, are not interested in "democracy," "human rights," or "freedom" in Russia, but rather removing the Kremlin out of the way, and reestablishing the parasitic feeding on the Russian people and its economy they enjoyed after the fall of the Soviet Union.

The Kremlin is definitely fighting fire with fire, however they are doing so on their own sovereign soil against foreign-interests disingenuously masquerading behind the ideals of Western civilization. The mobs polluting the streets of Russia, while consisting of well intentioned folks are being led by willful liars who are on record covering up their foreign-funding knowing full well their "legitimacy" will be compromised should it be made public. After what Wall Street and London have done in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and in nation after nation as it expands its vast empire, why should any organization taking funds from these people to destabilize and overthrow their own country retain any semblance of legitimacy?

And while NED and other corporate-funded foundations execute this policy of meddling in Russia's affairs, it is Wall Street and London, the largest banking, oil, defense contracting, and industrial interests on earth that are producing the policy. They do so via a network of think-tanks they themselves fund. It is essential that we understand who these corporations are, boycott them out of business, and begin replacing them entirely as a society. If they can meddle and cause chaos in the streets of a large, nuclear armed super power, what threat do they pose to average people, their families, and communities?

there really is no dictator, tyrant and anti-democratic impulse that you conspiracy kooks wont ally yourself with.

one day you might understand how that came to be. but since you guys seem a bit slow, probably not.

at least he's not alcoholic like yeltsin was or that american sell out gorbachev.... no new president will make Russia what it can be overnight, it's a long process from all the terrible leadership over the past decade ...

agree with that, they also need to concentrate more on the other business type ideas instead of being pure resources/oil/gas... look at USA, they got google,microsoft,apple,etc,etc companies paying major tax money to the government, or Japan with sony, samsung,etc,etc, what does Russia have? All I can think of is a bunch of Vodka brands... they need to also cut the corruption, pay top money to the police/government so people don't need to steal them...

What ever that means? :upsidedow

As usual, you make no sense and must resort to name calling to cover your lack of real knowledge and understanding of the subject.

No one said anything about "allying" with a dictator, tyrant, anti-democratic-impulse? Where do you get these things? Putin is a tyrant, sure, but one that the West can't control. That's the difference. Putin is one of the few World leaders with backbone enough to challenge US/UK lawlessness.

The West (read: the globalist elite that run the West from behind the scenes) seem perfectly fine with dictators they install in other countries to do their bidding, but with Putin, he's no puppet. He's gotta go. That's why you see them turning the heat up on him.

so what is your solution to the problem with putin then? you agree that putin is a tyrant but what should be done with him?

since you think all popular movements are tools of the illuminati how is a population to get rid of a tyrant? educate me.

Should the issue of "what to do with Putin" not be for the Russian people to decide?

Why does the West need to be meddling in the affairs of a sovereign country anyways?

do you think limonov is a puppet of the west?

but since you think every popular uprising is a tool if the illuminati how are people supposed to overthrow a dictator? again, educate my ignorant ass.

You do understand that the "failed" policies of the former USSR were the creation of the West right? Who do you think Gorbachev was working for?

Gorbachev is an an agent of the West. In fact, he's in there right now doing what he can..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...elections-void

Just look who funds Nemtsov and Limonov. It's not hard to figure out.

Again, why is it our responsibility? Should the Russian people not decide? It's THEIR country.

you have little understand how revolutions work, have always worked. of course you would not understand that when you get your information from youtube videos, crank forums and shit blogs.

if you are trying to create a popular revolt in your country you are going to take money and organizational aid for whatever source. does not mean they are "puppets." but complexity and nuance is lost when you have such a basic simplistic worldview such as yours.

they are deciding right now idiot. get that though your skull.

This is kinda how I figure it is.. Putin was the right guy for their country "at the time" however now it's becoming clear to the people of Russia that he has no intentions of stepping to the side.

Personally, I understood it to be a Putin controlled Russia even with Medvedevas as President. To me that whole deal was more like a bullshit move for the cameras. I mean

While they are calling it so called democracy, I see the pair of these guys mainly Putin as nothing more than a dictatorship with out the title. It's just pretty clear he isn't gonna step aside and let anyone take his power away.

Kinda like anyone with a brain understood Dick Cheney was running the show during Bush Jr's first term in the white house.

NED, Open Russian Foundation, USAID, Golos, NDI, and all these Western NGO's have been created, and are funded for very specific purposes.

Also, it would be wise to consider that "he who provides the money, provides the direction."

Of course, this goes way back.

I mention Gorbachev because he was, and still is the most overt example.

Reading the news is not keeping up with politics. With that said, good comparison to Obama.

again, how is a population supposed to overthrow a oppressive government since you think every popular movement is controlled by the new world order?

Well said. That is close to my assessment too, but I think at this point in time Putin is still needed for "at least" another term.

It's vitally important that Russia have a strong no-nonsense leader (especially one that excels in international politics like he does) at a time when the West is hell bent on neutralizing Russia as a world power again.

There are many ways, but the absolute first step, is to have a population that understands "who the true enemy is." That happens only with a properly functioning Fourth Estate (news media) that keeps the people informed. Not confused, disoriented, politically ignorant, and dumbed down.

The problem with most popular movements is that they never get their guns focused on the true enemy because they are so grossly mislead by bought and paid for news organizations.

Vladimir Putin became the richest man in Russia through hard work, smart investments, and scrupulous honesty.

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformation...7-minister.jpg

putin you admit is a tyrant but instead they should aim for the "true enemy." i am confused. who is that? why should they leave putin alone?

also you think the people in the streets of russia are dumbed down idiots and dupes? is that what you are saying?

how long should people live under a oppressive regime before they educate themselves with youtube videos to who the true enemy is? what is a appropriate time frame before they are sufficiently educated to your standards to act?

do you think the media in russia is anti-putin an they are inciting the masses against him?

Your question was..

"again, how is a population supposed to overthrow a oppressive government since you think every popular movement is controlled by the new world order?"

I responded in the general sense of a "popular movement," what ever country it may occur in. In the case of Russia, the same thing applies. Exposure is needed. People need to be educated about the criminal machinations of their government, and then to work through their own domestic problems. If a revolution is needed, it should be "Russian" backed popular movements that initiate and run it, not foreign NGO's. The globalist bankers have NO BUSINESS trying to overthrow the governments of sovereign countries.

As for Russians being "dumbed down idiots and dupes" (as you say), they aren't any more purposely dumbed down than you and I are. The elites use media to confuse us. To misdirect, and mislead us to support "their agenda." Right now Russia, Syria, Iran, and China are firmly in their cross-hairs. That's why there is a media storm with these "themes" playing out right now on Western based media outlets. All coordinated, all with the same talking points.

There is no time frame, but would it not be advisable to know "who" to aim at before firing your weapon? If you don't, there is not much chance of hitting your target.

For example, take the Tea Party. It was a popular movement that was co-opted (whole sale) into doing the bidding of the Koch brothers (the elites) inside the Republican party because the Tea Party didn't quite know "who" to put in their cross-hairs. It was purely a grass roots movement that in the end was not politically sophisticated enough to realize all of this. They were taken over and ultimately co-opted by the same people that are trying to meddle now in Russian affairs. These things always come full circle.

#occupyrussia?
 

Insane McCain, Obama?s Grand Chessboard, and Russia?s Color Revolution

This week, John McCain removed a post on his twitter feed that read, ?Dear Vlad, The #ArabSpring is coming to a neighborhood near you?. McCain?s blatant provocation of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin appeared as a stark admission of US geopolitical meddling in both the Arab World and Russia, and revealed the arrogance with which the US/NATO establishment has pursued its policy of ?Color Revolution? directed towards the member-states and strategic allies of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

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Above: John McCain delivers a shocking provocation to Russian PM Vladimir
Putin via Twitter. His post was later removed.

Foreshadowing this latest instigation by McCain was a comment made in mid-February of this year in an interview with CBS?s Face the Nation, in which McCain stated, "These winds of change that are blowing, I think I would be a little less cocky in the Kremlin with my KGB cronies today if I were [Russian Prime Minister] Vladimir Putin. I would be a little less secure in the seaside resort that [Chinese] President Hu and a few men who govern and decide the fate of 1.3 billion people."

continued here..

McCain must have been drunk off his wrinkled ass when he wrote that.