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[Labret] 12-12-2011 07:41 AM

As an American who has been in Russia for 4 years, with a live in Russian girlfriend for 3 of them, I have never read anyone describe this place, and their women, as accurately as Jesus Christ. You should seriously write a book. Took me a couple of hard years to learn what you summed up nicely in this thread.

One thing to add. Every Russian I know cheats on their significant other. Every single one of them. Ive never seen anything like it.

just a punk 12-12-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Labret] (Post 18623647)
One thing to add. Every Russian I know cheats on their significant other. Every single one of them. Ive never seen anything like it.

It's as true as a statement that every American I know serves Satan. The only truth there is that 90% of Russian men are cheating on their wives. Yes, that's sad but true (women and majority in Russia and not every one can expect to have her own husband)

I more this thread grove as more stupid comments it harvests. :2 cents:

just a punk 12-12-2011 08:14 AM

For those who can read Russian:

http://a.yfrog.com/img611/8644/llnpm.jpg

sambucas 12-12-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623699)
For those who can read Russian:

http://a.yfrog.com/img611/8644/llnpm.jpg

Sorry for my critical thinking but: where the fuck is the stamp?

There are tons of material like this on the internet, material that doesn't prove anything just makes suggestions just like the video I posted earlier, this stuff falls apart as soon as you put your emotions aside and start thinking critically.

In your opinion life in Russia under Putin became better or worse?

sambucas 12-12-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623591)
Yes and no. All these "pro-Putin" actions are being organized by "Nashi" that use young people from near regions (not from Moscow) for money.

So their actions are real, but not voluntary. Just take a look at this video where the "Nashi" guys chant "Medvedev! Pobeda (Victory)!" but they are hiding their faces from camera. Because they feel shame for doing this and they don't want their friends and relative see them praising Putin and Medvedev:

Let me get it straight, you say that those people on the video are being payed to be there, and your prove of that is that they are covering their faces? That's solid prove mate!

sambucas 12-12-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18622279)
What? Because our cops don't let you drink vodka in public places?

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/d...1534610683.jpg

It's a common mistake to think that there is no democracy in Russia. And the fact that people who don't understand Russian language making comments about democracy in Russia amazes me. There are several news channels dedicated to anti Putin propaganda, news papers and radio stations. Russian internet is a different story all together, I actually met people who have thousands of followers in twitter and they twit "Putin is a fucking gay" (only in Russian) and same people say that there is no freedom of speech in Russia.

just a punk 12-12-2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18623734)
Sorry for my critical thinking but: where the fuck is the stamp?

Right there is no stamp. As well as no stamp here:

http://pit.dirty.ru/dirty/1/2011/12/...8e1552e572.jpg

However that's 100% true, because that day my son has left his school via window since the doors were closed and security didn't allow the pupils to leave the building till 18:00 to prevent them from visiting the meeting against Putin on December 10th.

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Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18623734)
In your opinion life in Russia under Putin became better or worse?

It's a wrong question. The Russian economics depends on oil/gas prices which were 10 times higher in Putin's times comparing to the Yeltsin's period. The prices here have grown like mushrooms after summer rain. Moscow become one of the world's most expensive cities etc. People now getting paid much more than 10 years ago etc. On the other hand, we got an awful corruption and bureaucracy here. The most serious and powerful criminals in Russia are our government and police. Now, it's possible to buy here everything if you have enough money. E.g. you can kill someone and you won't be punished - just pay for it. The oil and gas money go directly to the Western countries where Putin and other officials keep their money, realty... and families (do you know where exactly Putin's daughters live now?)

So can I say the live under Putin became better? I don't think so.

Watch this video:


just a punk 12-12-2011 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18623756)
It's a common mistake to think that there is no democracy in Russia. And the fact that people who don't understand Russian language making comments about democracy in Russia amazes me. There are several news channels dedicated to anti Putin propaganda, news papers and radio stations. Russian internet is a different story all together, I actually met people who have thousands of followers in twitter and they twit "Putin is a fucking gay" (only in Russian) and same people say that there is no freedom of speech in Russia.

Yes that's true. Actually there is not less or not more democracy as everywhere. I always told that democracy is an urban legend for idiots.

However, everything that happening now in Russia is not because of luck of "democracy". The people just tired of thievish and twofaced government which doesn't care about anything except their own pockets.

As about twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/KermlinRussia

just a punk 12-12-2011 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18623745)
Let me get it straight, you say that those people on the video are being payed to be there, and your prove of that is that they are covering their faces? That's solid prove mate!

It's not a prove at all. The prices are well known here like we all know: Sun is rising on East and water is wet. The video I posted just proves that people who "support Medvedev and Putin" don't want to show their faces - they feel SHAME. What do you think - why?

sambucas 12-12-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623779)
It's not a prove at all. The prices are well known here like we all know: Sun is rising on East and water is wet. The video I posted just proves that people who "support Medvedev and Putin" don't want to show their faces - they feel SHAME. What do you think - why?

There can be thousands of reasons for that. And I'm not someone who likes to speculate and make quick decisions. You cannot assume that it's because they are hiding their faces because they are getting payed for protesting that's just silly. Besides there were plenty of people wearing masks during anti Putin protests too, so according to your logic where they payed too?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4192/navalshina.jpg

Serge Litehead 12-12-2011 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623774)
Yes that's true. Actually there is not less or not more democracy as everywhere. I always told that democracy is an urban legend for idiots.

However, everything that happening now in Russia is not because of luck of "democracy". The people just tired of thievish and twofaced government which doesn't care about anything except their own pockets.

As about twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/KermlinRussia

that twitter has some gems in it
(Rise of the Machines. Across the country, iPhones switching to day light saving time despite the presidential order )

here's another good one http://fuckyeahrussianpolitics.tumblr.com/ more humorous tho before all the recent debacle.

just a punk 12-12-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18623898)
There can be thousands of reasons for that.

E.g.?

Quote:

You cannot assume that it's because they are hiding their faces because they are getting payed for protesting that's just silly.
I didn't say that. I KNOW there were paid, and I GUESS they are hiding because they feel shame. But shame for what?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18623898)
Besides there were plenty of people wearing masks during anti Putin protests too, so according to your logic where they payed too?

Not. Simply because it was a non-authorized meeting and end everyone who got identified was arrested and sued after that. Would you hide your face if you know what you will go to jail if your face will be identified?

sambucas 12-12-2011 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623764)
Right there is no stamp. As well as no stamp here:

http://pit.dirty.ru/dirty/1/2011/12/...8e1552e572.jpg

However that's 100% true,

Your statement is not getting any more credible by the amount of times you state it. You know I can make such "prove" with photoshop in 10 mins. Besides it's not the point. This letter doesn't prove anything if it's true.


Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623764)
It's a wrong question.

Yeah, well it's the main question for me. As a citizen of a country that was asleep for 70 years thanks to October revolution of 1917, my country's well being is the only thing that interestes me. I couldn't care less about such questionable value as democracy and unproved election fraud. I simply don't want to see another revolution while we are clearly on right course at the moment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623764)
The Russian economics depends on oil/gas prices which were 10 times higher in Putin's times comparing to the Yeltsin's period.

Typical mistake!

1. No, the prices of oil were not on the rise all the time since 1999. Check out the graphs:

1.1. Russian economy growth:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...viet_Union.PNG

1.2. oil prices:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5427/oilprices.jpg

Pay specific attention to the period 2000-2004, do you see the fall of oil prices? So if Russian economy growth was tied to oil prices same should have happened to the economy of Russia during the same period, right? Well do you see it on the first chart? No! So that's completely wrong to say that Russian economy growth is entirely due to the rising oil prices.

2. There are many countries in the world that have much easier access to oil than Russia, who's oil reserves located in Siberia far from any sea and trading places, let's take Libya for example. Well do I need to make a comparison between modern day Russia and Libya? Who is located in Mediterranean sea btw! And let's not forget USA who is another oil producing country, their economy went down the drains since 1999.

So no, oil prices were not the sole reason why Russian economy grew.


Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623764)
Now, it's possible to buy here everything if you have enough money. E.g. you can kill someone and you won't be punished - just pay for it.

So it's all United Russia's fault, right?


Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623764)
The oil and gas money go directly to the Western countries where Putin and other officials keep their money, realty... and families (do you know where exactly Putin's daughters live now?)

I have spent 3 years of my life researching Putin trying to find how he steals oil money, and till this day I couldn't find anything more than silly videos that have screaming titles like "Putin eats live baby" but don't really prove anything. So please let me know how Putin steals oil money? But please no rubbish suggestive videos! I've seen them all. Here is an example prove that American government steals from their taxpayers: Bush family lobbies increased military budget, makes decisions to bomb irrelevant countries and produces and sells bombs and bombers. That is a corruption pure and simple. How does Putin steal oil money? Does he or his family members own Gazprom or Rosneft?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18623764)
So can I say the live under Putin became better? I don't think so.

Putin
1. Stopped war in Chechnya, buy buying Chechen warlords, probably true, but it's much better than any bloodshed and costs us much less money than fighting them. Which is definitely a win rather than fail in a long run.

2. Got rid of Russia's national debt.

3. Created stabilization fund.

4. Average salary raised 800%.

5. My father's pension is 16 500 RUB which is more than my mother's who live in a EURO zone country (which is very expensive)

Ramirez 12-12-2011 10:59 AM

Russia FTW.

porno jew 12-12-2011 11:00 AM

lol your graphs don't help your point.

just a punk 12-12-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18624045)
Your statement is not getting any more credible by the amount of times you state it. You know I can make such "prove" with photoshop in 10 mins. Besides it's not the point. This letter doesn't prove anything if it's true.

1) I live in Moscow.
2) I know that all Moscow pupils were held over the schools till 18:00 according to that "photoshoped letter".
3) My own son was among them.

I don't have to prove anything. I know what I know, as about you - I don't care.

sambucas 12-12-2011 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18624122)
1) I live in Moscow.
2) I know that all Moscow pupils were held over the schools till 18:00 according to that "photoshoped letter".
3) My own son was among them.

I don't have to prove anything. I know what I know, as about you - I don't care.

Whatever! I'm still waiting for prove that Putin steals oil money. It's really important to me.

sambucas 12-12-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18624053)
lol your graphs don't help your point.

How do you mean? You didn't read the text below graphs did you? Look at period 2000 - 2004.

just a punk 12-12-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18624395)
Whatever! I'm still waiting for prove that Putin steals oil money. It's really important to me.

If it's really important to you, go find out.

sambucas 12-12-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18624423)
If it's really important to you, go find out.

Thank you for proving my point! There is no evidence that Putin is corrupt and you know it. The rubbish that circulates the internet is no more than opposition propaganda.

Serge Litehead 12-12-2011 12:28 PM

gotta wonder how this Putin Palace is being financed in Crimea Ukraine
http://ruscesar.livejournal.com/102594.html
this is a private construction, not commissioned by russian goverment

sambucas 12-12-2011 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 18624573)
gotta wonder how this Putin Palace is being financed in Crimea Ukraine
http://ruscesar.livejournal.com/102594.html
this is a private construction, not commissioned by russian goverment

This is exactly the "evidence" that I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with Putin but the whole revolutionary resource livejournal is filled with posts about this being "Putin Palace".

just a punk 12-12-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18624518)
There is no evidence that Putin is corrupt and you know it.

Ignorance is bliss :2 cents:

Serge Litehead 12-12-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18624597)
This is exactly the "evidence" that I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with Putin but the whole revolutionary resource livejournal is filled with posts about this being "Putin Palace".

i personally got all evidence i needed:
- putin 'running' for a 3rd time, and pretty sure without a doubt he will be 'elected' in march;
- and russian news media was quiet whole past week about protests in moscow, only during weekend they've mentioned something about saturday's protest while cut out all anti-putin chants, this is major news and all they showed was kirkorov show and his new boutique.

O MARINA 12-12-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by holograph (Post 18624655)
while cut out all anti-putin chants, this is major news and all they showed kirkorov show and his new boutique.


Um FINALLY someone mentions Kirkorov! Alla & Kirkorov for President :pimp
Not to change the subject or anything but I saw the show about his Surrogate Momma from States interview. Cyberxxx I like your posts and perspectives, let's hear it!!

just a punk 12-12-2011 01:07 PM







LOL

just a punk 12-12-2011 01:22 PM

Грешно конечно смеяться над стариками и убогими молодыми дегенератами, но что поделать, если кроме них и подневольных таджикских дворников, по сути, никто не поддерживает ни Единую России, ни Путина, ни (прости господи) Медведева.

P.S. The main claim of multi-thousandth meeting on 10th December was: "For honest elections!" Do you know what exactly the president of Russian Federation Mr. Medvedev has commented on that? He said that he does not agree with that claim. I.e. he does not agree with the requirement of honest elections. Can he say something even more stupid? Proof: http://ru-ru.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev

just a punk 12-12-2011 01:49 PM

And one more video (for Russian-speaking only, sorry):


sambucas 12-12-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18624752)
P.S. The main claim of multi-thousandth meeting on 10th December was: "For honest elections!" Do you know what exactly the president of Russian Federation Mr. Medvedev has commented on that? He said that he does not agree with that claim. I.e. he does not agree with the requirement of honest elections. Can he say something even more stupid? Proof: http://ru-ru.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev

Isn't it comfortable to interpret everything and anything president says to fit your point of view? Another bulletproof evidence from you! Well done mate! If you base your political opinion on misinterpretations like this and try to present them like evil agenda of president it's quite clear why people like you

Here is what president actually wrote:

Люди имеют право высказывать свою позицию, что они вчера и сделали. Хорошо, что все прошло в рамках закона. Я не согласен ни с лозунгами, ни с заявлениями, прозвучавшими на митингах. Тем не менее мною было дано поручение проверить все сообщения с избирательных участков

Translation:
People have the right to express their position, and that's what they did yesterday. It's good that it went within the bounds of law. I disagree with slogans, and statements that were voiced. However i gave out orders to check all of the signals that we got from the voting districts.

You can interpret it like you did "I.e. he does not agree with the requirement of honest elections" only if you really want to.

sambucas 12-12-2011 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18624639)
Ignorance is bliss :2 cents:

It's called critical thinking. Still waiting for that proof by the way.

just a punk 12-12-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18624882)
It's called critical thinking. Still waiting for that proof by the way.

You can wait it forever. You do you think you, a prosecutor? Why have a provide a proof on anything? I your ignorance is your problem, I'm not a teacher.

Dcat 12-12-2011 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18622361)
This election had nothing to do with Putin but rather with the actual president of Russia wich is Medvedev, his weak leftish and Global governance attitude has reseulted in loss of confidence by the Russian people who want a sovereign Russia as it has always been.
The poor results in this election are proof that Russia wants the strong leadership of Vladimir putin and not the NWO puppet Medvedev.

This is my take on it too.

Who's name was on the ticket? Not Putin, ..but in fact Medvedev.

I think seats were lost in the Duma because of Medvedev's wishy-washy appeasement to the globalists, which not only exposed him as a weak tool, but really set Russia back.

Russia lost a lost of time and strategic advantage figuring out the West is indeed looking to NEUTRALIZE and then DESTROY them. The great Russian-American Reset with Start 2, Russia's WTO bid, Russian's inclusion in the Ballistic Missile Defense shield, and Russia's going along with the no-fly zone in Libya ALL failed or backfired. You just can't make a deal with these globalist devils! ..I think Medvedev has now come to fully realize this, and THAT was the primary reason he elected not to go head-to-head with Putin in the coming elections. He instead decided it best to just switch seats with Putin.

just a punk 12-12-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18624876)
You can interpret it like you did "I.e. he does not agree with the requirement of honest elections" only if you really want to.

I'd suggest you to read the comments of OTHER regular Russians on that statement (yeah, right there - on his facebook page). Go ahead an say again that we ALL are idiots and only you the one who got his answer right. Congrats on that man!








sambucas 12-12-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 18624906)
This is my take on it too.

Who's name was on the ticket? Not Putin, ..but in fact Medvedev.

I think seats were lost in the Duma because of Medvedev's wishy-washy appeasement to the globalists, which not only exposed him as a weak tool, but really set Russia back.

Russia lost a lost of time and strategic advantage figuring out the West is indeed looking to NEUTRALIZE and then DESTROY them. The great Russian-American Reset with Start 2, Russia's WTO bid, Russian's inclusion in the Ballistic Missile Defense shield, and Russia's going along with the no-fly zone in Libya ALL failed or backfired. You just can't make a deal with these globalist devils! ..I think Medvedev has now come to fully realize this, and THAT was the primary reason he elected not to go head-to-head with Putin in the coming elections. He instead decided it best to just switch seats with Putin.

Well United Russia didn't lose that much of votes, it's not a disaster in any case. Especially if you compare to what is going on with other leading parties around the world, Finland, France, Germany and many more. Parties in those countries that were leading during the economic crisis of 2008 suffered much more which is normal. So it was to be expected.

sambucas 12-12-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18624914)
I'd suggest you to read the comments of OTHER regular Russians on that statement (yeah, right there - on his facebook page). Go ahead an say again that we ALL are idiots and only you the one who got his answer right. Congrats on that man!

"Putin and Muzhik" is epic I really liked it, posted it on my facebook too.

Wanna show me the bit where I say that you all are idiots? Who is ALL? Your ALL is a bunch brainwashed livejournal junkies who base their political opinions on suggestive half truth videos on youtube and sleazy nationalistic slogans by mr. Navalny (another CIA puppet). There are more of people like me than there are people like you. You know why? Because life for them actually became better under Putin, say whatever you want about him, my father saw his pension go up every 6 months, while my mom who lives in europe will loose her apartment if I won't pay for it. So don't tell me about ignorance.

just a punk 12-12-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18624942)
"Putin and Muzhik" is epic I really liked it, posted it on my facebook too.

Wanna show me the bit where I say that you all are idiots? Who is ALL? Your ALL is a bunch brainwashed livejournal junkies.

Actually I was talking about Medvedev's facebook, but never mind...



P.S. I'm glad for your fathers pension. Have no idea where he was working however... For example my father is getting only about 15,000 rules ($500) a month. It's is his pension for 45 years of work (he is a veteran of work and a holder of the "Znak Pocheta") + sick benefit (he's a disabled worker of 1st degree) + so-called "Moscow bonus".

sambucas 12-12-2011 02:55 PM

Dear cyberxxx,

you have filled this thread with videos of poetry and indie songs, it's really nice of you. But what exactly are you saying?

Is it typical tactics of online revolutionaries pursuing overseas sponsored regime change agenda to fill the threads with videos without any sense?

just a punk 12-12-2011 02:59 PM

Everything what I wanted to say have been said already: I DON'T WANT ANYBODY SEAL MY VOTE and I DO NOT TRUST TO PUTIN AND HIS PUPPET MASTERS (SURKOV etc)

just a punk 12-12-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18624970)
Is it typical tactics of online revolutionaries pursuing overseas sponsored regime

The overseas sponsored regime is already here since 1993.

http://englishrussia.com/images/1993/1.jpg

Dcat 12-12-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sambucas (Post 18624921)
Well United Russia didn't lose that much of votes, it's not a disaster in any case. Especially if you compare to what is going on with other leading parties around the world, Finland, France, Germany and many more. Parties in those countries that were leading during the economic crisis of 2008 suffered much more which is normal. So it was to be expected.

Exactly, it wasn't a big loss.

The thing is, the Western media on one hand talks about "voting irregularities" and "vote stuffing" ..but on the other hand, they talk about "big seat losses" for United Russia in the Duma. I mean, which way do you want it? :1orglaugh


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