Whats with todays music?
 

I gotta say Kayne West doesnt really know how to sing or has a nice enough voice IMAO to be considered in the music business.....is it because of that new voice technology he uses that made him so big?

Some people call it the "T-Pain" voice effect but its really just a program called Auto Tune, which has gotten really popular in the past few years.

Ya huh....a bunch of echoes :1orglaugh

IMHO music started to take a dive when the video became more important then the music, the image became more important than the content and the money men decided to take control of the industry and the music away from the musicians.

I'm sure there are musicians with the potential of Hendrix, Dylan, Lennon, Townsend, Clapton, Waters, Page and so many many more waiting to be discovered. And sadly never will be.

music took a dive when the whole "gangsta" culture took over the entire youth and schools of the nation, and music choices were made to look cool and as a safety cred thing, kind of like "don't fuck me around because I am gangsta, listening to my gangsta rap and all"


:2 cents:

Maybe you need to branch out?

the only gangsta music I could even consider to listen would be Body Count, today rap is pure shit

peter frampton use to do it the 70's :p

dont bangwagon all todey music..
because their is a lots of great artiste and musician today!
RAp and hip hop is pure shita.. but in the rock/metal/prog/trance/hose techno etc.. their is lots a really good artists

that's why i stick with pacha ibiza music..

sex on fire. kings of leon.

waiting for this moment. silver sun pickups.

is it any wonder? . keane


are we human or are we dancers? the killers


thank god for music!

let's dance!



hello! i need another jack and coke over here! where is the jukebox? anyone got quarters?

I often ask myself this question

I dont listen to that!

Kanya is garbage.

That's the music industry, but we will always have respectable singers that will keep it real

Well I don't want to offend Kanye cause he has the best name in the pop history ever and apart from a couple brief encounters with his fur filled music videos I haven't really heard anything from him.

But here's the recipe I've observed:

1) get a mammal that's about the size of the biggest monkies and likes money
2) dress it in a fur
3) decorate it with gold
4) put it into a Hummer
5) get something to transform its roaring to more polished sound
6) come up with a very mediocre sampler beat
7) record a cool music video without a story
8) put it up to MTV and other "music" channels
9) play it at least 10 times a day
10) get articles into all the popular magazines
11) supply the tabloids and newspapers with a balanced portion of scandals regularly
12) once the mammal starts getting high too much and bitch too much - get rid of it
13) repeat the procedure

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to not be considered?

thats a bit harsh, you gotta give the guy some credit for at least having released 3 albums, soon 4

Kanye got big from producing hit singles for Puff Daddy way back in the day, and then started RAPPING (google it) which doesn't require a nice voice.

Now that he's a super famous personality he can do whatever he wants.

By the way, you sound like my grandfather bitching about that "racket" i was listening to back in the early 90s. And his father bitching about elvis. And so on.

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Thats just a cop out. Personally i listen to lots of rap and metal, rock and all sorts of stuff but most popular music these days is made purely upon marketing.

I'm just another nigga' with a microphone
Can't carry a tune, I have to talk my song...

Wearing hand-me-downs and the cloths don't fit
Look like a fool but I think I'm hip...

Tough ghetto rapper that thinks I'm fly
But punch me in the face and see how fast I cry..

I got crap hanging round my neck so I must be cool
Stupid fucking wiggers actually think I rule...

Dumb ass crackers soaks up my rap
Don't have the common sense to see that it's all just CRAP!

There's my rap for the day!

Kanye was on SNL last night, and it was the worst pile of crap. He's been overrated ever since he came out. I just don't get it. Stupid lyrics, bad composition, horrible execution live....what a scam.

Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got
I'm still, I'm still Mike from the block
Used to tube a little now I tube a lot
No matter where I go I know where I came from

When hasn't it been?

its because of Media Hype. If you have all people saying something is good. Most of society is going to believe it. I haven't listened to a 'new' song in probably quite some time. It's simply crap.

We've came a long way, from the times when producers were looking for something that people like already (concerts / local bands / etc.) and that exists on its own to the times when producers create something completely artificial and create the hype around it.

This is the most impotent time in the pop music history ever.

Another important thing is that there's a motherload of great music that was created already, so noone really needs more than to keep the existing artists (many of them in their 50's / 60's already) to satisfy the needs of those, who are a bit more demanding, or look for a bit of sense and originality.

There really isn't any need to push / create anything else than the complete shit music for the new generation, that's an easy prey to influence and to bank on.

Are you talking about the effect Roger Troutman pioneered back in the early 80's?

It's been around a lot longer than any T-Pain.

:disgust

I actually believe it will dissapear after a bit the same way as faggy 80's synthesizers did.

Agreed.

They did it in the 70's also, but ran it through their guitar instead of the synthesizer. It reappears every 10 years or so.

producers have been polishing untalented turds from day one of pop music.

Yeah but besides polishing untalented turds there used to be always at least something happening.

Like you had Rock n Roll explosion with Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis and Buddy Holly (followed by hundreds of mediocre wannabie innovators ) then you had the hippie shit and hard rock emerging in the late 60's, Iggy Pop going down on stage, Velvet Underground doing their weird stuff, Black Sabbath with riffs heavier than the Birmingham steel - something that was never around before and that all just at the break of the 60's and 70's.

Then in 70's there's NWOBHM / space rock / punk rock and roots of hardcore/ trash metal that came to full force in the 80's while pop was dominated by fags with synthesizers and rock had more hair than ever/ then the Seattle scene that went popular in the first half of the 90's and made a couple good bands big and way more good bands uncovered, that's say till 1995 and then?

Nothing.

I believe the "today" you guys are talking about is the late 90's and early 2000's before piracy/youtube/myspace ran rampant and evened the playing field, making for some great fucking pop music.

See: Santogold, Feist, Gorillaz, MIA, Lil Wayne, etc.

Please don't compare talentless hacks like Elvis that had most of their material written for them with real artists of today like TV on the Radio, Sufjan Stevens, Fleet Foxes, Sigur Ros etc etc. He's nothing more than the Britney Spears of his generation. A pretty face with an ok voice that producers fed other people's songs through.
I wouldn't parade your inability to find good music and complain about not being forcefed anything good. Were the Pixies, Dead Kennedy's, Jane's Addiction popular and accessible in the 80's? Do you still listen to popular 90's bands? Still rocking on to Pearl Jam? Were they anything other than a completely traditional guitar band marketed under "alternative"? bleh.

there are always really talented artists out there, getting them heard with quality airtime is the hard part and usually the crap that the industry pushes just makes it through.

werdmore to ze nerdcore

Hippity hop mumbo jumbo

Exactly , i saw that ... wasnt that horrible? He couldnt sing, couldnt rap and couldnt even dance.... just takes huge steps back and forth lol

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Hah nice try, but Elvis was the shit in his early years before he got all fat and boring / Vegas etc., he wasn't that special as Jerry Lee Lewis, the killer had much more balls than him, but check Ed O'Sullivan show from 1955 and you'll love Elvis, he had far too much charisma not to become what he became.

That's the same like if you said Beatles were pretty faces with an ok voice, and maybe they were and it was Brian Epstein who made them big, but who cares? Weren't they remarkable?

No I don't listen to Pearl Jam anymore, it's a closed chapter and if recording new music was banned today, there there's still enough good stuff to explore for hundreds of years if you look for good music outside of genres.

Let me get back to the fact that we're discussing the pop scene of today, what's available in media, what's on MTV, we're discussing this idiotic display of inability to put out anything original apart from more audio effects, more sweaty ebony asses or more golden chains.

It's actually quite similar to the pop scene of the 80's with all the new romance shit and crazy colours, crazy hairstyles, silly lyrics and way too much energy.