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CarlosTheGaucho 12-16-2008 07:20 PM

I mean those guys who brought Timbaland and all those audio creatures public probably know more than anyone of us about the issues and sociology of these days youth - idiocracy on the rise.

leek 12-16-2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15205890)
Ok so we've come to a conclusion we can all agree on:

Today's pop stars can't sing, they suck on all levels, they're no more musicians or performes of music of any kind. Ten years ago they still could look at least a bit musical.

Let me show you how much you don't know. From the very same Billboard Hot 100 list you cited:

1 Beyonce - Single Ladies
Widely known as a very talented singer. Once learned and sang a song in french at the Oscars.

11 - Jason Mraz - I'm Yours
Performed "A Beautiful Mess" with a full orchestra at the Nobel Peace Prize Concert 5 days ago. Known for his rock/pop/reggae sound and vast instrument abilities.

12 Taylor Swift - Love Story
Song written by an 18 year old girl known for her amazing voice at such a young age.

15 Kevin Rudolf Featuring Lil Wayne - Let It Rock
I'm just mentioning this because Lil Wayne is the shit and this is a surprisingly catchy mix of rock and rap.

21 Rihanna - Disturbia
What a shitty voice Rihanna has... just kidding - she has a great voice. She serves as the cultural ambassador for the island of Barbados. Has amassed twelve top 40 hit singles in the U.S.

27 John Legend Featuring Andre 3000 - Green Light
Andre 3000 = amazing lyrical talent. Plays over 7 instruments. I don't even need to continue about this one.

I just skimmed the list, but there is also Secondhand Serenade, The Killers, O.A.R., Usher - all in the top 50. I'll let you research them yourself if you want their accomplishments. Hint: Usher can dance.

So after all of that - you're right - what a bunch of no-talent hacks. </sarcasm>

CarlosTheGaucho 12-16-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by leek (Post 15206480)
Let me show you how much you don't know. From the very same Billboard Hot 100 list you cited:

1 Beyonce - Single Ladies
Widely known as a very talented singer. Once learned and sang a song in french at the Oscars.

11 - Jason Mraz - I'm Yours
Performed "A Beautiful Mess" with a full orchestra at the Nobel Peace Prize Concert 5 days ago. Known for his rock/pop/reggae sound and vast instrument abilities.

12 Taylor Swift - Love Story
Song written by an 18 year old girl known for her amazing voice at such a young age.

15 Kevin Rudolf Featuring Lil Wayne - Let It Rock
I'm just mentioning this because Lil Wayne is the shit and this is a surprisingly catchy mix of rock and rap.

21 Rihanna - Disturbia
What a shitty voice Rihanna has... just kidding - she has a great voice. She serves as the cultural ambassador for the island of Barbados. Has amassed twelve top 40 hit singles in the U.S.

27 John Legend Featuring Andre 3000 - Green Light
Andre 3000 = amazing lyrical talent. Plays over 7 instruments. I don't even need to continue about this one.

I just skimmed the list, but there is also Secondhand Serenade, The Killers, O.A.R., Usher - all in the top 50. I'll let you research them yourself if you want their accomplishments. Hint: Usher can dance.

So after all of that - you're right - what a bunch of no-talent hacks. </sarcasm>

Well, as confirmed above, no single talent in the top 100 can change the fact that what's going on now is really just an effort to exploit more young people who never ever had a chance to hear real music or create their own style, so it's really wicked in a way.

That's actually the only way how so much visual and anti audio bullshit can happen these days.

leek 12-16-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15206539)
Well, as confirmed above, no single talent in the top 100 can change the fact that what's going on now is really just an effort to exploit more young people who never ever had a chance to hear real music or create their own style, so it's really wicked in a way.

That's actually the only way how so much visual and anti audio bullshit can happen these days.

Should have known you were trollin'. :winkwink:

WWC 12-16-2008 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chodadog (Post 15202996)
People who can't appreciate today's music are boring as fuck. There's more amazing music being produced on a daily basis than I'll ever get a chance to listen to in just about every genre you can think of. Broaden your horizons.

Yes i agree with you man, but some pop stars have made it big not because of their music or vocals but because of connections in the biz or being at the right place at right time when creating their album......

chodadog 12-17-2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi (Post 15206728)
Yes i agree with you man, but some pop stars have made it big not because of their music or vocals but because of connections in the biz or being at the right place at right time when creating their album......

Like that hasn't been happening since the inception of the music industry.

donkevlar 12-18-2008 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15205905)
Well I'm trying to broaden my horizons every day, I have more than 1900 records and I feel myself somehow educated in jazz or stuff that's really not that easy to listen to.

List 10 examples of these days music (established after 95 ) that made it to media and is truly groundbreaking.

Off the top of my head:

The Gorillaz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillaz
Portishead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portishead
Radiohead (ok computer) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiohead
Bjork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjork
Tool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_(band)
Eminem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem

All pretty groundbreaking.

Now name your groundbreaking artists from the great era you speak of 1982-1995

CarlosTheGaucho 12-18-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 15212193)
Off the top of my head:

The Gorillaz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillaz
Portishead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portishead
Radiohead (ok computer) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiohead
Bjork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjork
Tool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_(band)
Eminem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem

All pretty groundbreaking.

Now name your groundbreaking artists from the great era you speak of 1982-1995

I really admire Portishead, they're perfectionists and Beth Gibbons is just incredible,

Radiohead is something I admire a lot but haven't touched yet, as it really requires a certain mindset.

I have probably all the records from Björk, including some rare shit, but she started in the late 80's with that terrorist band on Iceland, how were they called - Kukl I guess, in fact the first record she ever recorded was in Iceland when she was 12.

I'm an avid fan of Tool and seen them live in 06, but they really also have their roots at the end of the 80's.

All those bands do actually.

Apart from Gorillaz which I don't know too well, I guess it's that bloke from Blur singing over there.

I'm speaking about the pre 1995 era, bands that were really coming out with their debut album and killed it.

wheat 12-18-2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 15212193)
Off the top of my head:

The Gorillaz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillaz
Portishead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portishead
Radiohead (ok computer) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiohead
Bjork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjork
Tool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_(band)
Eminem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem

All pretty groundbreaking.

Now name your groundbreaking artists from the great era you speak of 1982-1995

1986 alone gave us both Reign in Blood from Slayer and Master of Puppets from Metallica.

WWC 12-19-2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wheat (Post 15215654)
1986 alone gave us both Reign in Blood from Slayer and Master of Puppets from Metallica.

Metallica rocks!!!

Also, XM radio now has a whole channel dedicated to Led Zepplin ;-)


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