Affiliate conduct... should this be allowed?
 

I have an affiliate that has posted a couple of our ENTIRE video and photo sets in their members area. Not promo material, and not sample pics or videos, but a couple of our entire weekly updates.

This affiliate is padding their members area with other sites content. They are posting full length videos about twice a week, and there are clips from many sites... not just ours.

Is this standard practice for affiliates, or should I pissed?

Fuck no man...........

In their members area?

you shouldn't ask this type of questions m8.......the answer is obvious

http://photos9.flickr.com/12418698_38f4129520.jpg

btw give me user/pass to naughtyAlysha so i can spank my monkey

Errr no that is totally fucked up.

I thought so. I have joined the site and looked for myself.
There is content from WifeysWorld, Raven Riley, Sammy4U, Brook Skye, Twistys, Nicole Graves, and dozens more... I count 59 "bonus" updates in their members area, all full length updates from other sites.

you want me to cut this gringo for you?

Alysha doesn't like people who abuse animals. :upsidedow

Its not standard practice send him DMCA. If he doesn't respond, repeat this with his host.

Kick his ass Adam, Nobody's affiliate should ever do this. This is the biggest fuck you that any affiliate could ever do the their sponsor. Give him one chance to make this right..........if not well us Vegas people know how to fix things. :winkwink:

p.s. It was great seeing you at AVN

NosMo

he's padding his own members area with other people's content without asking - it's definitely against any program's rules to do that - i'd allow it if he was sending significant number of sales through that members area but i bet he doesn't.

Hells noooo

That's karmic justice for ya

A list of all the "bonus" updates he's posted:
Wifeysworld.com
NaughtyAtHome.com
NaughtyAllie.com
Melody (AmateurAllure.com)
GiaMarie.com
HotWifeRio.com
NaughtyAlysha.com
KellyMadison.com
HaleyWilde.com
HouseWifeKelly.com
QueenyLove.com
Lady-Sonia.com
RealityWife.com
CatalinaCruz.com
OralAmber.com
WifeysWorld.com
AmberAtHome.com
VanillaDeVille.com
NaughtyAtHome.com
RachelAziani.com
NaughtyAlysha.com
RobandJill.com
Talia (AmateurAllure.com)
ChristinaNoir.com
GiaMarie.com
IDeepThroat.com
Janet-Exposed.com
SweetCumGirl.com
AbbyWinters.com
MariahXXX.net
CathysCraving.net
BrandiBelle.com
NaughtyJulie.com
SquirtingCarly.com
AlexisGolden.com
HaleyWilde.com
BarbiSluttyAdventures.com
MyWifeAshley.com
QueenyLove.com
WifeCrazy.com
DebsDeepThroat.com
JenMadison.com
Nikky (AmateurAllure.com)
BrandiLove.com
RachelAziani.com
Seska.com
Sammy4U.com
Lady-Sonia.com
FoxyAnya.com
LizVicious.com
JeanSwings.com
AbbysPlayground.com
RavenRiley.com
WifeysWorld.com
NicoleGraves.com
FTVGirls.com
Twistys.com
BrookeSkye.com
BridesonBlacks.com

So whose doing this? Why protect their identity? :P

We've sent you sales from our members area with 15 gallery pics, we don't even have a full video from ya (yet).

Thats WAY overkill, makes me wonder....

I sent them an email... haven't heard back yet. Was going to give them a chance to tell their side.

I was gonna say the same thing. If the guy's sending a bunch of sales from a protected members area why complain? If he put up full picture sets and videos on a FREE site, I'd see that as a little different.

The ratios are great... but the traffic isn't.
He's only sent 67 hits since the beginning of the year, and we've converted 3 of them, so he's 1:22 right now. But, with that large of an update with our content, does the viewer really need to join our site?

You just pegged it.

This is why it is wrong. He is using your content to sell his members area and keep his members on his site by giving them updates to multiple other sites.

Basically this is theft and should be reported!

Well, if he kept ADDING stuff, I'd tell him to grab a brain. If he say, rotated one set of pictures and one video every so often, I'd probably let him. If he's advertising your stuff on his TOUR, I'd can him immediately. Members are crosssells are fine imo, but there does come a point of abuse.

1:22 is pretty darn good though. If it were me I might talk to them, lay down some ground rules and try it for a while.

He's not rotating anything. He's adding more every few days. Only two updates with our stuff out of the 59 he's posted, but they're still there... not rotated off.

Oh, and he does advertise on his tour... our stuff, and all of those other sites I listed. Of course, there's no mention of the actual website until you get into the members area.

I disagree. If the stuff was on his TOUR, he'd be using it to sell his members area...and I'd stop him immediately.

If he wasn't linking to the site who's content he's using, it would be theft. Obviously he's not trying to hide it.

Like I said, I'd rather the guy do this than take the videos and upload them to a tube site.

Okay, that's totally different than what I thought. If he's using it on his TOUR, that IS theft imo.

Again, if it were ME, I'd contact the guy and tell him unless he complies you're gonna can him and serve him a DMCA. Make him play by YOUR rules, which imho should be what I suggested. Rotated content and NOTHING on his tour...that DOES take away from your site.

Here is one of our sets in his members area (I resized it):
http://www.naughtyalysha.com/images/...e_nobanner.jpg

Well c'mon man, he considers you a FRIEND. ;)

Seriously, that does seem a little out there. Like I said, talk to the guy and make him work under YOUR rules...or shut him down.

who is it?

And his free tour area (The CLICK HERE button on the tour goes to his join page, not our website):

http://www.naughtyalysha.com/images/gfy/tourpage.jpg

Does the guy have any of his OWN content?

disregard what "standard practice" is.

The best way to approach the situation is with an open dialogue , unless he is blatantly ripping you off.

I would let him know that what he is doing is not permitted by your terms and if he would like to continue to use your content for his members area he must sign a contract that he is agreeing to "different terms" that you both agree on beforehand.

Yes, they do.

Signup to his site and do the same to him...
http://www.chica4cash.com/featuredsite.html

I know that as a TGP owner that I would never even think about doing this. This is just WRONG in so many ways and they are hurting the whole biz by giving too much away. This person sounds like a tiny step above a tube site. After all why would anyone pay to join you site if they are going to get to see all of the updates for free ???

Another thing....whatever happened to the principle of giving credit where credit is due???

Looking into this right now passing this onto our legal guys. We don't just let this sort of thing go anymore.

I just want to make it very clear to our affiliates etc that we do not permit this kind of behaviour. We are in the process of taking legal action against this individual and he has been notified.

We will also be in touch with CCBill to request his account (the one for his site) be closed due to multiple instances of copyright violation.

Shouldn´t he have asked you for your permission before? That´s what I would have done.

I've not been awake long, so if the site has been posted in the thread, I missed it.

Could someone please hit me up with a link? Thank you. :)

http://www.chicasplace.com
Once inside, click on the UPDATES link.

He claims he has permission to post the content, but he's posted two of our updates and I never heard from him. And hearing two of you say you know nothing about it makes me wonder...

He joined our affiliate program, then joined our website through his affiliate link. Then, he entered our site and took the content without letting us know anything, posting it on his website. I guess he figures that if he makes one sale he gets back what he paid for a membership.