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longdongsilver 01-16-2008 10:57 AM

redtube.com - 11x the size of thehun.com ??
 
the size of that site is incredible...nearly in the top50 in the world and growing...who owns this ?

looking at the sponsors on this page, im guessing either videosz or juggcash or is it owned by someone else altogether?

started only a few months ago...that is insane. Is this the biggest adult site in the world now or is there even larger?

Malla 01-16-2008 10:59 AM

http://www.fivestarmedia.com/

Chris 01-16-2008 11:00 AM

and redtube is for sale

Vick! 01-16-2008 11:00 AM

this site is incredibly large .. got famous so fast.

Eriic 01-16-2008 11:00 AM

redtube.com is my favorite site. Free and it is plenty for me.

Mike Semen 01-16-2008 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eriic (Post 13658107)
redtube.com is my favorite site. Free and it is plenty for me.

Ok, you can just give me your 45k now and save yourself a lot of pain. :winkwink:

xmas13 01-16-2008 11:31 AM

Five Star Media - Division of JPDS

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JPDS was founded as Jager & Polacek Data Services OEG by Stefan Jager and Michael Polacek in 2000. In the beginning of 2007 the name and legal form was changed to Jager & Polacek GmbH. Our Headquarters are located in Vienna, Austria in the heart of Europe.

xmas13 01-16-2008 11:33 AM

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?c=1&f...=3&h=300&w=610

Sosa 01-16-2008 11:35 AM

tons of porno on there. No need for surfers to keep signing up

Bojangles 01-16-2008 11:36 AM

Holy shit.

DateDoc 01-16-2008 11:53 AM

2 million plus visitors per day not paying for a membership :disgust

pornask 01-16-2008 11:57 AM

ripshit must be laughing at us. He came here spamming redtube big time to spread the word when it was just starting and look. It took off like you wouldn't believe.

Diligent 01-16-2008 12:08 PM

Jesus..!

With that kind of traffic I'm sure they don't give a shit about likely measly numbers... like 0.1% CTR, and then just 1:5000 at best.

I can imagine it means tons of sales for them whichever way.. fuckers :\
(slight jealousy here, yeah.. lol)

tiger 01-16-2008 12:11 PM

Damn I bet that is a nasty bandwidth bill.

Scott McD 01-16-2008 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13658196)

:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap

DateDoc 01-16-2008 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Diligent (Post 13658321)
Jesus..!

With that kind of traffic I'm sure they don't give a shit about likely measly numbers... like 0.1% CTR, and then just 1:5000 at best.

I can imagine it means tons of sales for them whichever way.. fuckers :\
(slight jealousy here, yeah.. lol)

hmm, that would suck for them - 2,000,000 visitors per day @ 0.1% CTR = 2000 and then if they sold at 1:5000 that would be 1 sale every 2.5 days. Is my math wrong because that would be abysmal?

lbc213 01-16-2008 12:21 PM

They are business savvy, I will give them that.

hjnet 01-16-2008 12:28 PM

I'm wondering if they even make a profit. The BW bill must be insane, and the conversion rates in the shitter.
If mainstream sites like youtube.com don't make that much profit (I've heard $15M in 2006) then I'm pretty sure adult tubes don't make anything at all. That could be the reason why it`s for sale

mn 01-16-2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 13658354)
hmm, that would suck for them - 2,000,000 visitors per day @ 0.1% CTR = 2000 and then if they sold at 1:5000 that would be 1 sale every 2.5 days. Is my math wrong because that would be abysmal?

2,000,000 * 0,01 = 20,000 / 5000 = 4 sales

they do way way way way more than that....

Rhesus 01-16-2008 12:33 PM

youporn.com is apparently breaking even or so. As you can see a lot of optimisation can be done there, and with such huge traffic figures that will easily translate into some interesting profits. I guess the same applies to redtube.com

starpimps 01-16-2008 12:34 PM

Tube site business plan:
- Build up a shit load of traffic off stolen videos
- make enough sales to cover the bw bills
- try to find a sucker to buy it at an over inflated ridiculous price

DateDoc 01-16-2008 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mn (Post 13658404)
2,000,000 * 0,01 = 20,000 / 5000 = 4 sales

they do way way way way more than that....

0.01 is 1%, I was going by the 0.1% (0.001) posted but I agree they have to do better than either of those.

Diligent 01-16-2008 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 13658354)
hmm, that would suck for them - 2,000,000 visitors per day @ 0.1% CTR = 2,000 clicks and then if they sold at 1:5000 that would be 1 sale every 2.5 days. Is my math wrong because that would be abysmal?


Lol, no You got the numbers right, what I did wrong was not saying I meant on average *per* ad's amount of impression..

Like roughly speaking & generalizing:
2,000,000 visitors day, each of them see what's advertised = ~2,000 clicks per ad... and they plaster the place with advertising.

Heh.. that would still be exceptionally bad, but a little bit better than what it might have looked like I meant :winkwink:

Anyway.. this sucks :(
I can see where this is going...
Time to to go to the new school I think, and try and launch another huge Social Media-sharing giant of a site...
Or, sigh, see marketing avenues we're used to.. dwindle to sure death. :disgust

I feel like such a conservatist right now, lol

Drake 01-16-2008 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhesus (Post 13658414)
youporn.com is apparently breaking even or so.

where did you read this?

Diligent 01-16-2008 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starpimps (Post 13658421)
Tube site business plan:
- Build up a shit load of traffic off stolen videos
- make enough sales to cover the bw bills
- try to find a sucker to buy it at an over inflated ridiculous price

Yay.. I can see here in my crystal ball.. online Adult's own very first bubble+bust coming along soon :Oh crap

Barefootsies 01-16-2008 12:57 PM

I'm guessing all the porn sites not hitting this site with C&D's, or sueing the fucking hell out of them are enjoying their "free advertising" right?

:disgust

ninavain 01-16-2008 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diligent (Post 13658479)
Yay.. I can see here in my crystal ball.. online Adult's own very first bubble+bust coming along soon :Oh crap

I agree, new sales are already slipping

Davy 01-16-2008 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starpimps (Post 13658421)
Tube site business plan:
- Build up a shit load of traffic off stolen videos
- make enough sales to cover the bw bills
- try to find a sucker to buy it at an over inflated ridiculous price

I believe you hardly make any sales from a tube site.
What you forget is that they also sell part of their ads, to webmasters and program owners alike.

TheSenator 01-16-2008 01:45 PM

Bandwidth is dirt cheap these days.

Eman - PG 01-16-2008 02:28 PM

If tube sites are the next best thing in porn, why are a bunch of them trying to sell out and mainstream ones making not so much $ after millions and millions of venture capital?

http://www.portfolio.com/culture-lif...inment-Profile

http://www.fivestarmedia.com/

Etc...

tony286 01-16-2008 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eman - PG (Post 13658780)
If tube sites are the next best thing in porn, why are a bunch of them trying to sell out and mainstream ones making not so much $ after millions and millions of venture capital?

http://www.portfolio.com/culture-lif...inment-Profile

http://www.fivestarmedia.com/

Etc...

People forget the ads will pay for everything model, has been tried and failed. Also I wonder the true conversions,I bet a huge portion of that traffic is underage, then the rest are looking for free shit.
This isnt a prime consumer target.

nikki99 01-16-2008 02:48 PM

more tube sites :(

AdultTrafficMedia 01-16-2008 03:15 PM

The perfect business model for tube sites - open a pop on each page load, sell to many media companies for a knockdown rate (say $1 CPM to ensure the inventory is sold) and with 2 million visitors per day, the sites sees some $2 k daily from the pops alone.

Surfers would be pissed with the pop but the freeloaders can still wank4free so the traffic drop would not be horrific. :)

Eman - PG 01-16-2008 03:24 PM

Just a side note: If we do enter a US or Global recession in 2008, the word CPM will die again. I can't believe this CPM bullshit made its way back from the dead after 2000.

papill0n 01-16-2008 05:14 PM

fuck redtube

will76 01-16-2008 05:22 PM

youporn and megarotic are bigger.


the hun and tgps like it will dead soon ( 1 - 3 years) like I have been saying for months now

DateDoc 01-16-2008 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13658836)
People forget the ads will pay for everything model, has been tried and failed.

Tell that to Markus Frind. His ads seem to pay for everything!

VicD 01-16-2008 05:41 PM

Why are they selling that site? Killed by the bandwith bill or the traffic must be real shitty...or both...

SZNY 01-16-2008 06:16 PM

Amazing how they generated this kind of traffic stats in such a short period. I've also been contacted if I had interested in this site. I also believe tube sites have some kind of effect on adult pay sites and i'm interested how their montly revs and b/w costs look like.

Anyway besides tube sites there is so much free porn online available on p2p sites and that was already before porn tube sites were deployed.

SENECA-NET 01-16-2008 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicd (Post 13659429)
Why are they selling that site? Killed by the bandwith bill or the traffic must be real shitty...or both...

EVERYTHING is for sale for the right price.


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