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tony286 01-16-2008 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 13659396)
Tell that to Markus Frind. His ads seem to pay for everything!

one guy doesnt mean it works for everyone.Its been tried and failed.

V_RocKs 01-16-2008 08:03 PM

Remember that RedTube is brought to you by Adult Friend Finder and the Brazzers Network!

nico-t 01-16-2008 08:18 PM

what is CPM?

Drake 01-16-2008 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13658836)
People forget the ads will pay for everything model, has been tried and failed.

But how do they even break even? I don't think there is venture capital backing the adult tube sites, only mainstream ones. Maybe I'm wrong. Anybody know?

Barefootsies 01-16-2008 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13659871)
Remember that RedTube is brought to you by Adult Friend Finder and the Brazzers Network!

REMEMBER THAT TUBESITES ARE BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE FBI AND TITLE 2257..

/sarcasm

:disgust

brandonstills 01-16-2008 09:05 PM

If I were them I would block all traffic from countries that have a low % of people that actually buy things. Most of them traffic it said is from out of the country and probably from places where they don't even use credit cards, probably underage as well.

kane 01-16-2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13659389)
youporn and megarotic are bigger.


the hun and tgps like it will dead soon ( 1 - 3 years) like I have been saying for months now

I actually think it will be just the opposite and most tube sites will either be dead or shells of themselves in the next 1-3 years. It seems like almost all of them are actively looking for buyers because it is hard to make money with them and I think it will only get harder and harder for them. As it gets harder for them to convert their traffic they will start to throttle back and they will lose visitors or just close their doors. How many tgp's have gone out of business because they couldn't convert the traffic? Many. Tube sites are tgp's on steroids they give away so much there is only certain things they can sell to make money and eventually those ads will get stale and dry up.

Just my 2 cents.

brizzad 01-16-2008 09:11 PM

Why are you homos bitching about bandwidth. Bandwidth is cheap as FUCK. If you're getting so many visitors to your site that its maxing out your bandwidth, and you can't turn a profit from them to pay the bill, then either your hosting company is ripping you off, or you suck at being a webmaster.

Look at their advertising rates: http://www.etology.com/buying-space-...8831&EID=51331

will76 01-16-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13660027)
REMEMBER THAT TUBESITES ARE BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE FBI AND TITLE 2257..

/sarcasm

:disgust

TUBE SITES (almost all of them if not all of them) are being pumped with money from AFF / CAMS.... don't forget it.

Lars managed to change the industry, he single handedly brought down the porn membership traditional sites by sending millions to these tube sites to promote his cams and dating sites.

every make sure to thank lars and aff.

kane 01-16-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brizzad (Post 13660056)
Why are you homos bitching about bandwidth. Bandwidth is cheap as FUCK. If you're getting so many visitors to your site that its maxing out your bandwidth, and you can't turn a profit from them to pay the bill, then either your hosting company is ripping you off, or you suck at being a webmaster.

Look at their advertising rates: http://www.etology.com/buying-space-...8831&EID=51331

That is insane. I wonder how many ads they actually sell at that rate. The say you will get an average of 7,000 clicks in a day and it costs $635. I wonder how many people actually pay that rate. You would have to have one hell of a ratio just to break even at that price.

brizzad 01-16-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 13660130)
That is insane. I wonder how many ads they actually sell at that rate. The say you will get an average of 7,000 clicks in a day and it costs $635. I wonder how many people actually pay that rate. You would have to have one hell of a ratio just to break even at that price.

Pretty much all of their ads are for dating/sex finding type sites and for these hornny fucks watching these 5 minutes videos I bet it converts pretty well. Either way though, I'm sure redtube doesn't give a fuck how it converts.

Barefootsies 01-16-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13660084)
TUBE SITES (almost all of them if not all of them) are being pumped with money from AFF / CAMS.... don't forget it.

Lars managed to change the industry, he single handedly brought down the porn membership traditional sites by sending millions to these tube sites to promote his cams and dating sites.

every make sure to thank lars and aff.

:Oh crap:Oh crap

kane 01-16-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brizzad (Post 13660154)
Pretty much all of their ads are for dating/sex finding type sites and for these hornny fucks watching these 5 minutes videos I bet it converts pretty well. Either way though, I'm sure redtube doesn't give a fuck how it converts.

I guess I feel like the dating stuff will eventually stagnate on those sites. Many of those visitors are return visitors. If they see the same dating ads time and time again they eventually ignore them and they will be less profitable. I think eventually advertisers will start to lose money on them and back out and that will leave tube sites like this one in deep shit.

But then again, maybe not.

will76 01-16-2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 13660033)
I actually think it will be just the opposite and most tube sites will either be dead or shells of themselves in the next 1-3 years. It seems like almost all of them are actively looking for buyers because it is hard to make money with them and I think it will only get harder and harder for them. As it gets harder for them to convert their traffic they will start to throttle back and they will lose visitors or just close their doors. How many tgp's have gone out of business because they couldn't convert the traffic? Many. Tube sites are tgp's on steroids they give away so much there is only certain things they can sell to make money and eventually those ads will get stale and dry up.

Just my 2 cents.

the reason why they are looking for buyers IMO is not because they aren't making money, it is because they are greedy but not stupid. They are worried the gravey train may end soon (being sued or laws changing) that will fuck them hard for having stolen content on their sites.

They are also greedy as fuck and they see sites in the top 50 like myspace, youtube and face book worth hundreds of millions. They think because they have the traffic they can cash in and sell for millions too. How much does youporn want ? 20 million, how much do they claim it makes. $120,000 a month from advertising. That is net. The reason he wants to sell it, he would rather 20 million now opposed to 120K a month and sooner or later getting into shit.

I don't think it is " they want to sell because they don't make money" I think it is more, we are greedy and we want 20 years income paid upfront right now, and they don't want the risks long term that comes with these types of sites...

Drake 01-16-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13660194)
the reason why they are looking for buyers IMO is not because they aren't making money, it is because they are greedy but not stupid. They are worried the gravey train may end soon (being sued or laws changing) that will fuck them hard for having stolen content on their sites.

They are also greedy as fuck and they see sites in the top 50 like myspace, youtube and face book worth hundreds of millions. They think because they have the traffic they can cash in and sell for millions too. How much does youporn want ? 20 million, how much do they claim it makes. $120,000 a month from advertising. That is net. The reason he wants to sell it, he would rather 20 million now opposed to 120K a month and sooner or later getting into shit.

I don't think it is " they want to sell because they don't make money" I think it is more, we are greedy and we want 20 years income paid upfront right now, and they don't want the risks long term that comes with these types of sites...

Yes, I think you're right. It just makes sense to try and get out with a large lumpsum than operating under the risks while making a lot less than the lumpsum.

I'm curious, have any large adult tube sites been successfully sold to date? Are there companies and/or individuals out there that have $20 million willing to buy networks with so much associated risks?

will76 01-16-2008 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13660194)
the reason why they are looking for buyers IMO is not because they aren't making money, it is because they are greedy but not stupid. They are worried the gravey train may end soon (being sued or laws changing) that will fuck them hard for having stolen content on their sites.

They are also greedy as fuck and they see sites in the top 50 like myspace, youtube and face book worth hundreds of millions. They think because they have the traffic they can cash in and sell for millions too. How much does youporn want ? 20 million, how much do they claim it makes. $120,000 a month from advertising. That is net. The reason he wants to sell it, he would rather 20 million now opposed to 120K a month and sooner or later getting into shit.

I don't think it is " they want to sell because they don't make money" I think it is more, we are greedy and we want 20 years income paid upfront right now, and they don't want the risks long term that comes with these types of sites...


edit, i meant i dont think that is net, i think that is 120K month gross, so they grossing like 1.5 million a year. even if they profitting 500K they want to sell for 20 million :1orglaugh thats 40 years income i would want to sell too LOLOL. I bet if they put it up for sale for something reasonable someone would take them up on it, if they put it for sale for 3 - 4 million someone would buy it.

kane 01-16-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13660194)
the reason why they are looking for buyers IMO is not because they aren't making money, it is because they are greedy but not stupid. They are worried the gravey train may end soon (being sued or laws changing) that will fuck them hard for having stolen content on their sites.

They are also greedy as fuck and they see sites in the top 50 like myspace, youtube and face book worth hundreds of millions. They think because they have the traffic they can cash in and sell for millions too. How much does youporn want ? 20 million, how much do they claim it makes. $120,000 a month from advertising. That is net. The reason he wants to sell it, he would rather 20 million now opposed to 120K a month and sooner or later getting into shit.

I don't think it is " they want to sell because they don't make money" I think it is more, we are greedy and we want 20 years income paid upfront right now, and they don't want the risks long term that comes with these types of sites...

I'm sure they want out as soon as possible. The owners of Youporn admit they don't know what to do with it they just want to grow it as big as possible and sell it. I think they want out, like you say, before the shit hits the fan and they have to deal with the potential problems a site like that has. Better to get something nice today for it than risk getting nothing for it in a few years.

ladida 01-16-2008 09:59 PM

Hosted at ch00pa. They can unleash some serious bandwidth. Outside that, they host few large programs, and they seem to support gaming communities that burn bandwidth like there's no tommorow.
I've seen far better prices from hosts here then on their page. I'd be curious what they charge redtube :)

Nicky 01-16-2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by brizzad (Post 13660056)
Why are you homos bitching about bandwidth. Bandwidth is cheap as FUCK. If you're getting so many visitors to your site that its maxing out your bandwidth, and you can't turn a profit from them to pay the bill, then either your hosting company is ripping you off, or you suck at being a webmaster.

Look at their advertising rates: http://www.etology.com/buying-space-...8831&EID=51331

Fuck, thats a joke..... $0,10 CPC I have trouble getting 10c per click from my SE traffic......

Drake 01-17-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 13660261)
I'm sure they want out as soon as possible. The owners of Youporn admit they don't know what to do with it they just want to grow it as big as possible and sell it. I think they want out, like you say, before the shit hits the fan and they have to deal with the potential problems a site like that has. Better to get something nice today for it than risk getting nothing for it in a few years.

And when you think of it, it would be a great score for them even to get $1 - $2 million for a site that only breaks even in terms of profit.

HouseHead 01-17-2008 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Malla (Post 13658103)

yea yea there is some traffics there

kane 01-17-2008 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 13660608)
And when you think of it, it would be a great score for them even to get $1 - $2 million for a site that only breaks even in terms of profit.

True but it still does nothing to change my opinion that most sites like this will eventually die off or radically change themselves. It is just a questions of if the change/death will be under a new owner or not.

hjnet 01-17-2008 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brizzad (Post 13660056)
Why are you homos bitching about bandwidth. Bandwidth is cheap as FUCK. If you're getting so many visitors to your site that its maxing out your bandwidth, and you can't turn a profit from them to pay the bill, then either your hosting company is ripping you off, or you suck at being a webmaster.

Look at their advertising rates: http://www.etology.com/buying-space-...8831&EID=51331

Wow, $0.25 per click on a tube site. So that means you'd need to convert ~1:100 to make a reasonable profit.

I doubt that they have many returning buyers, or buyers at all.

Anybody in the mood to start guessing how much their BW bill is each month?

d-null 03-21-2009 11:10 PM

interesting year old thread and comments

now a year later the alexa stats say redtube is 22x that of thehun


http://i40.tinypic.com/9a7lab.jpg

PornMD 03-21-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15658601)
interesting year old thread and comments

now a year later the alexa stats say redtube is 22x that of thehun


http://i40.tinypic.com/9a7lab.jpg

How about this one for a trip?

http://www.nametrader.com/tubealexa.jpg

Barefootsies 03-21-2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by starpimps (Post 13658421)
Tube site business plan:
- Build up a shit load of traffic off stolen videos
- make enough sales to cover the bw bills
- try to find a sucker to buy it at an over inflated ridiculous price

:2 cents:

Drake 03-21-2009 11:45 PM

Interesting update.

I wonder if Hun gallery spots will ever come down in price. How about content store dvd prices? Prices for both have remained as high as they were years ago while the market is completely different.

teomaxxx 03-22-2009 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 15658654)
Interesting update.

I wonder if Hun gallery spots will ever come down in price. How about content store dvd prices? Prices for both have remained as high as they were years ago while the market is completely different.

if so, then Thehun must be still the most profitable adult free site, even with 2-4x less traffic then biggest tubes.

James124 03-22-2009 02:53 AM

Techy and determined surfers have many other ways to find your content for free than tube sites. Tube sites were a way for the market to solve a problem that non-techy surfers had. The problem was many of you guys have scammed sick amounts of surfers. Cross sales, and false promises etc.

Ron2k1 03-22-2009 03:27 AM

Soon the biggest will be tube8 or pornhub.

I personally think tube8, but pornhub has much better Google rankings

[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/9puf5k.jpg[/IMG]

Pretty funny to read all the GFY-ers her posting about how much money the tubes make and how it converts knowing the average GFY-er has absolutely no clue about bandwidth at such high numbers as the tubes burn.

Elixir 03-22-2009 03:33 AM

Very interesting pics in thread...
Free content is the only trick :)
Bandwidth...ah yes I agree with you Ron2k1, redtube is big monster for Bandwidth :)

brassmonkey 03-22-2009 03:39 AM

hahaha a real money maker

tabasco 03-22-2009 04:13 AM

Searches per day :helpme

Google
daily est
red tube 175,593
you tube 131,203

LoveSandra 03-22-2009 04:53 AM

fuck the red faggot tube

CaptainHowdy 03-22-2009 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveSandra (Post 15658919)
fuck the red faggot tube

There you go ...

seeandsee 03-22-2009 12:05 PM

that is just fucked

MetaMan 03-22-2009 12:08 PM

fuk i was gonna make my own thread.

edittt

Ozarkz 03-22-2009 12:14 PM

The funny thing is.. Redtube isn't even one of the good "illegal" tubes. Redtube doesn't have half the shit as some of the others.

GAMEFINEST 03-22-2009 12:15 PM

lol, funny part is i own a FreePorno ( dot ) ext that is parked makes me good revenue a month...its a shitty ext too that is parked.

V_RocKs 03-22-2009 12:45 PM

You make dating sales.


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