GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Letter sent to Stigamot (Icelantic Rape center resp. for canceling snowgathering) (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=708812)

SleazyDream 02-22-2007 08:31 PM

Letter sent to Stigamot (Icelantic Rape center resp. for canceling snowgathering)
 
I just sent this letter to Stigamot - the rape center in Iceland responible for all the lies to the media and the cancelation of the hotel and convention.


------------------------------------
Congratulations.

You seem to have won and can celebrate a victory.

Being lied about and socially ostracized like I have been recently in the Iceland media by your organization I now have an idea how it must feel to be powerless against irrational uncontrollable anger.

In effect you basically denied a Canadian with Icelandic roots and no criminal record the ability to visit the land of his forefathers for a vacation. Something I have looked forward to for many years.

Did you effect the operations of the online adult industry at all - no. You interrupted the vacation time of some site owners that run legal operations. You had the opportunity to meet and discuss with many of the highest traffic websites in the world about your concerns but instead you choose to pass. It's possible you avoided the ability to effect what may have been positive change in the industry and opted for terrorist tactics and lies and had us cancel our vacation time so we could stay home and work more.

I honestly would have liked to have met with representatives of your organization to see if there was anything we could do in our operations to be more sensitive to the needs of groups like yours. I currently work with several and adhere to principles and practices that we helped to establish for many businesses in the online adult community. ASACP.com being one of them. please check out this organization's website.

I honestly feel your behavior in this matter only sets up an environment of hate, revenge and mistrust. I hope that if you can overcome your anger someday and I feel that if you ever wish to break the chains of oppression it's done with agreements, understanding and rational negotiation.

Knowing the horrors many of you have gone though I can forgive you for this overzealous behavior and hope that in your hearts you have the courage to one day sit down and talk with myself or other representatives of the online adult community to discuss viewpoints and hopefully incorporate change and understanding for both of us in a more positive direction.

If you ever come to Canada I would be happy to extend an invitation to representatives of your organization to lunch or dinner and discuss this further in a civil manor. On me.

I wish only the best for the people in your recovery centers and fell for the horrors they had to experience.

Please accept my apology for the stress this vacation gathering has caused your organization.

Someday I hope we can move towards change. As a suggestion maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media in an effort of corporation, goodwill and trust.

I pray you have the courage to read this and the integrity to respond.
Somehow I doubt it . Please prove me wrong.

Scott Hjorleifson
SleazyDream.com
ph 204 294 8883

GTS Mark 02-22-2007 08:34 PM

I'm going to call Sleazy and pretend I am one of the Stigmot. I wonder how long it will take him to figure out who it is LOL!

DH

SleazyDream 02-22-2007 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST (Post 11961158)
I'm going to call Sleazy and pretend I am one of the Stigmot. I wonder how long it will take him to figure out who it is LOL!

DH

pretend? your name is on their list of board of directors!

tony286 02-22-2007 08:42 PM

great letter, I wouldnt expect a phone call. Groups like that dont do well with rational thought, its easier to make shit up.

WarChild 02-22-2007 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11961143)
As a suggestion maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media in an effort of corporation, goodwill and trust.

Big business always gotta stick their noses in ...

VoteForPedro 02-22-2007 09:07 PM

Nice letter. I hope you took the time to spell check and correct grammatical errors though.

CuriousToyBoy 02-22-2007 09:14 PM

Nice move Scott.

Be interesting of they respond.

10/1 on they will not.

2c

Deej 02-22-2007 09:26 PM

Very professional... :thumbsup

SiMpLe 02-22-2007 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11961143)
I just sent this letter to Stigamot - the rape center in Iceland responible for all the lies to the media and the cancelation of the hotel and convention.


------------------------------------
Congratulations.

You seem to have won and can celebrate a victory.

Being lied about and socially ostracized like I have been recently in the Iceland media by your organization I now have an idea how it must feel to be powerless against irrational uncontrollable anger.

In effect you basically denied a Canadian with Icelandic roots and no criminal record the ability to visit the land of his forefathers for a vacation. Something I have looked forward to for many years.

Did you effect the operations of the online adult industry at all - no. You interrupted the vacation time of some site owners that run legal operations. You had the opportunity to meet and discuss with many of the highest traffic websites in the world about your concerns but instead you choose to pass. It's possible you avoided the ability to effect what may have been positive change in the industry and opted for terrorist tactics and lies and had us cancel our vacation time so we could stay home and work more.

I honestly would have liked to have met with representatives of your organization to see if there was anything we could do in our operations to be more sensitive to the needs of groups like yours. I currently work with several and adhere to principles and practices that we helped to establish for many businesses in the online adult community. ASACP.com being one of them. please check out this organization's website.

I honestly feel your behavior in this matter only sets up an environment of hate, revenge and mistrust. I hope that if you can overcome your anger someday and I feel that if you ever wish to break the chains of oppression it's done with agreements, understanding and rational negotiation.

Knowing the horrors many of you have gone though I can forgive you for this overzealous behavior and hope that in your hearts you have the courage to one day sit down and talk with myself or other representatives of the online adult community to discuss viewpoints and hopefully incorporate change and understanding for both of us in a more positive direction.

If you ever come to Canada I would be happy to extend an invitation to representatives of your organization to lunch or dinner and discuss this further in a civil manor. On me.

I wish only the best for the people in your recovery centers and fell for the horrors they had to experience.

Please accept my apology for the stress this vacation gathering has caused your organization.

Someday I hope we can move towards change. As a suggestion maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media in an effort of corporation, goodwill and trust.

I pray you have the courage to read this and the integrity to respond.
Somehow I doubt it . Please prove me wrong.

Scott Hjorleifson
SleazyDream.com
ph 204 294 8883

You know that felt good when you hit the send button - AWESOME! :thumbsup

SleazyDream 02-22-2007 09:29 PM

thanks. very curious if they reply

Evil E 02-22-2007 09:29 PM

Well done. You are a one of kind human being.

SleazyDream 02-22-2007 09:33 PM

i wonder if any of them are cute?

crockett 02-22-2007 09:48 PM

Nice letter but it will likely fall on death ears..

Probably would have been better off just calling them.. Idiots

:winkwink:

BlackCrayon 02-22-2007 09:51 PM

good stuff, wonder if there is a chance to get in published in the media somehow. might have more effect than closed minded people who just label us as scum without looking beyond their own opinions.

Shap 02-22-2007 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11961143)
I just sent this letter to Stigamot - the rape center in Iceland responible for all the lies to the media and the cancelation of the hotel and convention.


------------------------------------
Congratulations.

You seem to have won and can celebrate a victory.

Being lied about and socially ostracized like I have been recently in the Iceland media by your organization I now have an idea how it must feel to be powerless against irrational uncontrollable anger.

In effect you basically denied a Canadian with Icelandic roots and no criminal record the ability to visit the land of his forefathers for a vacation. Something I have looked forward to for many years.

Did you effect the operations of the online adult industry at all - no. You interrupted the vacation time of some site owners that run legal operations. You had the opportunity to meet and discuss with many of the highest traffic websites in the world about your concerns but instead you choose to pass. It's possible you avoided the ability to effect what may have been positive change in the industry and opted for terrorist tactics and lies and had us cancel our vacation time so we could stay home and work more.

I honestly would have liked to have met with representatives of your organization to see if there was anything we could do in our operations to be more sensitive to the needs of groups like yours. I currently work with several and adhere to principles and practices that we helped to establish for many businesses in the online adult community. ASACP.com being one of them. please check out this organization's website.

I honestly feel your behavior in this matter only sets up an environment of hate, revenge and mistrust. I hope that if you can overcome your anger someday and I feel that if you ever wish to break the chains of oppression it's done with agreements, understanding and rational negotiation.

Knowing the horrors many of you have gone though I can forgive you for this overzealous behavior and hope that in your hearts you have the courage to one day sit down and talk with myself or other representatives of the online adult community to discuss viewpoints and hopefully incorporate change and understanding for both of us in a more positive direction.

If you ever come to Canada I would be happy to extend an invitation to representatives of your organization to lunch or dinner and discuss this further in a civil manor. On me.

I wish only the best for the people in your recovery centers and fell for the horrors they had to experience.

Please accept my apology for the stress this vacation gathering has caused your organization.

Someday I hope we can move towards change. As a suggestion maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media in an effort of corporation, goodwill and trust.

I pray you have the courage to read this and the integrity to respond.
Somehow I doubt it . Please prove me wrong.

Scott Hjorleifson
SleazyDream.com
ph 204 294 8883

Scott, I thought you being a really smart guy was supposed to be a secret that only your close friends knew of. How come you are letting all of gfy know of the real Scott?

btw great email as expected :thumbsup

rowan 02-22-2007 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap (Post 11961438)
Scott, I thought you being a really smart guy was supposed to be a secret that only your close friends knew of. How come you are letting all of gfy know of the real Scott?

His dirty little secret is no longer secret. :pimp

the alchemist 02-22-2007 10:20 PM

Well written letter :thumbsup

pornguy 02-22-2007 10:21 PM

Nice work. I would have added a few other things, like the financial impact that the show has for the island, as well as the fact that many of us not only donate time, but money as well to organizations like thiers.

Evil E 02-22-2007 10:35 PM

By the way, did you send a letter or an email?

SleazyDream 02-22-2007 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knewon (Post 11961513)
By the way, did you send a letter or an email?

email.
:2 cents:

High Plains Drifter 02-22-2007 11:25 PM

You should have had somebody proof-read it. I counted 7 errors in one reading.

CDSmith 02-22-2007 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Plains Drifter (Post 11961618)
You should have had somebody proof-read it.

I wasn't quite through the second paragraph when I started thinking that same thought.

Well-said though, would have been just a smidge more effective with the needed corrections.

Paul Markham 02-22-2007 11:40 PM

With so many homosexual men labelled as paedophiles you would of thought an organisation representing lesbians, and I assume sympathetic to gay mens rights, they would of been a little more careful who they called child abusers.

TexasDreams 02-23-2007 12:11 AM

First off, great letter! :thumbsup










And now we return to our regularly scheduled board antics...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11961331)
i wonder if any of them are cute?

http://www.blingstudio.com/biglaugh.gif http://www.blingstudio.com/biglaugh.gif

Lensman 02-23-2007 12:18 AM

Very well put indeed. Did Eric write that for you?

HelloRealityCheck 02-23-2007 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 11961482)
Nice work. I would have added a few other things, like the financial impact that the show has for the island

It's a mere drop in the ocean, and an obvious one at that, so it would only look desperate.

SleazyDream 02-23-2007 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelloRealityCheck (Post 11961857)
It's a mere drop in the ocean, and an obvious one at that, so it would only look desperate.

true - but for a country of 300,000 a convenion of 100+ people is a serious economic boost. most any small city of 200,000 people (size of Reykjavik) with a 100+ person convention notices it.

Halcyon 02-23-2007 02:34 PM

very nicely said, Sleazy.



(I kept waiting for you to say, "idiot.")

Evil Chris 02-23-2007 02:34 PM

Organize it in Greenland next time. :)

SleazyDream 02-23-2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 11964618)
very nicely said, Sleazy.



(I kept waiting for you to say, "idiot.")

idiot :thumbsup


happy now?

escorpio 02-23-2007 03:06 PM

Excellent letter. I hope it stimulates some rational thought. Much respect to you.

Penthouse Tony 02-23-2007 03:36 PM

good luck and post the response if you get one.

luv$ 02-23-2007 03:47 PM

I agree with everyone, that is an excellent letter - I hope it gets some thought, if anything

tranza 02-23-2007 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST (Post 11961158)
I'm going to call Sleazy and pretend I am one of the Stigmot. I wonder how long it will take him to figure out who it is LOL!

DH

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

aico 02-23-2007 04:10 PM

If you didn't mention anything about Bjork, they probably won't read it.

Should have signed it "The King of Swing".

Eric 02-23-2007 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman (Post 11961735)
Very well put indeed. Did Eric write that for you?

"Feel" would have at least been spelled correctly if I wrote it.

Nice letter Scott. I agree you should try and get that into the media over there somehow. I believe you should send a similar letter to the individuals managing the Hotel over there for Radission. A version to the head of Radission wouldn't hurt either. I guess the number of people that deserve a copy of this is a rather long list.

jact 02-23-2007 04:28 PM

Excellent letter, I hope they at least read it and realize they aren't dealing with monsters, they're dealing with real people who are reasonable and willing to talk instead of using the guerrilla tactics that they've used.

baddog 02-23-2007 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoteForPedro (Post 11961271)
Nice letter. I hope you took the time to spell check and correct grammatical errors though.

Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

Well written, Scott.

baddog 02-23-2007 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 11965026)
"Feel" would have at least been spelled correctly if I wrote it.

oops, missed that one

jact 02-23-2007 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11965071)
Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

Well written, Scott.

There were a few, but they shouldn't be the focus of the letter, what matters is the content and the message. :2 cents:


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:33 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123