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Old 02-22-2007, 08:31 PM   #1
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Letter sent to Stigamot (Icelantic Rape center resp. for canceling snowgathering)

I just sent this letter to Stigamot - the rape center in Iceland responible for all the lies to the media and the cancelation of the hotel and convention.


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Congratulations.

You seem to have won and can celebrate a victory.

Being lied about and socially ostracized like I have been recently in the Iceland media by your organization I now have an idea how it must feel to be powerless against irrational uncontrollable anger.

In effect you basically denied a Canadian with Icelandic roots and no criminal record the ability to visit the land of his forefathers for a vacation. Something I have looked forward to for many years.

Did you effect the operations of the online adult industry at all - no. You interrupted the vacation time of some site owners that run legal operations. You had the opportunity to meet and discuss with many of the highest traffic websites in the world about your concerns but instead you choose to pass. It's possible you avoided the ability to effect what may have been positive change in the industry and opted for terrorist tactics and lies and had us cancel our vacation time so we could stay home and work more.

I honestly would have liked to have met with representatives of your organization to see if there was anything we could do in our operations to be more sensitive to the needs of groups like yours. I currently work with several and adhere to principles and practices that we helped to establish for many businesses in the online adult community. ASACP.com being one of them. please check out this organization's website.

I honestly feel your behavior in this matter only sets up an environment of hate, revenge and mistrust. I hope that if you can overcome your anger someday and I feel that if you ever wish to break the chains of oppression it's done with agreements, understanding and rational negotiation.

Knowing the horrors many of you have gone though I can forgive you for this overzealous behavior and hope that in your hearts you have the courage to one day sit down and talk with myself or other representatives of the online adult community to discuss viewpoints and hopefully incorporate change and understanding for both of us in a more positive direction.

If you ever come to Canada I would be happy to extend an invitation to representatives of your organization to lunch or dinner and discuss this further in a civil manor. On me.

I wish only the best for the people in your recovery centers and fell for the horrors they had to experience.

Please accept my apology for the stress this vacation gathering has caused your organization.

Someday I hope we can move towards change. As a suggestion maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media in an effort of corporation, goodwill and trust.

I pray you have the courage to read this and the integrity to respond.
Somehow I doubt it . Please prove me wrong.

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I'm going to call Sleazy and pretend I am one of the Stigmot. I wonder how long it will take him to figure out who it is LOL!

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Old 02-22-2007, 08:35 PM   #3
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I'm going to call Sleazy and pretend I am one of the Stigmot. I wonder how long it will take him to figure out who it is LOL!

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pretend? your name is on their list of board of directors!
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great letter, I wouldnt expect a phone call. Groups like that dont do well with rational thought, its easier to make shit up.
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:50 PM   #5
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As a suggestion maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media in an effort of corporation, goodwill and trust.
Big business always gotta stick their noses in ...
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:07 PM   #6
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Nice letter. I hope you took the time to spell check and correct grammatical errors though.
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Nice move Scott.

Be interesting of they respond.

10/1 on they will not.

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Old 02-22-2007, 09:27 PM   #9
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I just sent this letter to Stigamot - the rape center in Iceland responible for all the lies to the media and the cancelation of the hotel and convention.


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Congratulations.

You seem to have won and can celebrate a victory.

Being lied about and socially ostracized like I have been recently in the Iceland media by your organization I now have an idea how it must feel to be powerless against irrational uncontrollable anger.

In effect you basically denied a Canadian with Icelandic roots and no criminal record the ability to visit the land of his forefathers for a vacation. Something I have looked forward to for many years.

Did you effect the operations of the online adult industry at all - no. You interrupted the vacation time of some site owners that run legal operations. You had the opportunity to meet and discuss with many of the highest traffic websites in the world about your concerns but instead you choose to pass. It's possible you avoided the ability to effect what may have been positive change in the industry and opted for terrorist tactics and lies and had us cancel our vacation time so we could stay home and work more.

I honestly would have liked to have met with representatives of your organization to see if there was anything we could do in our operations to be more sensitive to the needs of groups like yours. I currently work with several and adhere to principles and practices that we helped to establish for many businesses in the online adult community. ASACP.com being one of them. please check out this organization's website.

I honestly feel your behavior in this matter only sets up an environment of hate, revenge and mistrust. I hope that if you can overcome your anger someday and I feel that if you ever wish to break the chains of oppression it's done with agreements, understanding and rational negotiation.

Knowing the horrors many of you have gone though I can forgive you for this overzealous behavior and hope that in your hearts you have the courage to one day sit down and talk with myself or other representatives of the online adult community to discuss viewpoints and hopefully incorporate change and understanding for both of us in a more positive direction.

If you ever come to Canada I would be happy to extend an invitation to representatives of your organization to lunch or dinner and discuss this further in a civil manor. On me.

I wish only the best for the people in your recovery centers and fell for the horrors they had to experience.

Please accept my apology for the stress this vacation gathering has caused your organization.

Someday I hope we can move towards change. As a suggestion maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media in an effort of corporation, goodwill and trust.

I pray you have the courage to read this and the integrity to respond.
Somehow I doubt it . Please prove me wrong.

Scott Hjorleifson
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You know that felt good when you hit the send button - AWESOME!
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:29 PM   #10
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thanks. very curious if they reply
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:29 PM   #11
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Well done. You are a one of kind human being.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:33 PM   #12
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i wonder if any of them are cute?
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:48 PM   #13
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Nice letter but it will likely fall on death ears..

Probably would have been better off just calling them.. Idiots

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Old 02-22-2007, 09:51 PM   #14
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good stuff, wonder if there is a chance to get in published in the media somehow. might have more effect than closed minded people who just label us as scum without looking beyond their own opinions.
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I just sent this letter to Stigamot - the rape center in Iceland responible for all the lies to the media and the cancelation of the hotel and convention.


------------------------------------
Congratulations.

You seem to have won and can celebrate a victory.

Being lied about and socially ostracized like I have been recently in the Iceland media by your organization I now have an idea how it must feel to be powerless against irrational uncontrollable anger.

In effect you basically denied a Canadian with Icelandic roots and no criminal record the ability to visit the land of his forefathers for a vacation. Something I have looked forward to for many years.

Did you effect the operations of the online adult industry at all - no. You interrupted the vacation time of some site owners that run legal operations. You had the opportunity to meet and discuss with many of the highest traffic websites in the world about your concerns but instead you choose to pass. It's possible you avoided the ability to effect what may have been positive change in the industry and opted for terrorist tactics and lies and had us cancel our vacation time so we could stay home and work more.

I honestly would have liked to have met with representatives of your organization to see if there was anything we could do in our operations to be more sensitive to the needs of groups like yours. I currently work with several and adhere to principles and practices that we helped to establish for many businesses in the online adult community. ASACP.com being one of them. please check out this organization's website.

I honestly feel your behavior in this matter only sets up an environment of hate, revenge and mistrust. I hope that if you can overcome your anger someday and I feel that if you ever wish to break the chains of oppression it's done with agreements, understanding and rational negotiation.

Knowing the horrors many of you have gone though I can forgive you for this overzealous behavior and hope that in your hearts you have the courage to one day sit down and talk with myself or other representatives of the online adult community to discuss viewpoints and hopefully incorporate change and understanding for both of us in a more positive direction.

If you ever come to Canada I would be happy to extend an invitation to representatives of your organization to lunch or dinner and discuss this further in a civil manor. On me.

I wish only the best for the people in your recovery centers and fell for the horrors they had to experience.

Please accept my apology for the stress this vacation gathering has caused your organization.

Someday I hope we can move towards change. As a suggestion maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media in an effort of corporation, goodwill and trust.

I pray you have the courage to read this and the integrity to respond.
Somehow I doubt it . Please prove me wrong.

Scott Hjorleifson
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Scott, I thought you being a really smart guy was supposed to be a secret that only your close friends knew of. How come you are letting all of gfy know of the real Scott?

btw great email as expected
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Scott, I thought you being a really smart guy was supposed to be a secret that only your close friends knew of. How come you are letting all of gfy know of the real Scott?
His dirty little secret is no longer secret.
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Nice work. I would have added a few other things, like the financial impact that the show has for the island, as well as the fact that many of us not only donate time, but money as well to organizations like thiers.
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By the way, did you send a letter or an email?
email.
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You should have had somebody proof-read it. I counted 7 errors in one reading.
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You should have had somebody proof-read it.
I wasn't quite through the second paragraph when I started thinking that same thought.

Well-said though, would have been just a smidge more effective with the needed corrections.
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With so many homosexual men labelled as paedophiles you would of thought an organisation representing lesbians, and I assume sympathetic to gay mens rights, they would of been a little more careful who they called child abusers.
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First off, great letter!










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Very well put indeed. Did Eric write that for you?

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Nice work. I would have added a few other things, like the financial impact that the show has for the island
It's a mere drop in the ocean, and an obvious one at that, so it would only look desperate.
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It's a mere drop in the ocean, and an obvious one at that, so it would only look desperate.
true - but for a country of 300,000 a convenion of 100+ people is a serious economic boost. most any small city of 200,000 people (size of Reykjavik) with a 100+ person convention notices it.
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very nicely said, Sleazy.



(I kept waiting for you to say, "idiot.")
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very nicely said, Sleazy.



(I kept waiting for you to say, "idiot.")
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Excellent letter. I hope it stimulates some rational thought. Much respect to you.
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I agree with everyone, that is an excellent letter - I hope it gets some thought, if anything
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Very well put indeed. Did Eric write that for you?
"Feel" would have at least been spelled correctly if I wrote it.

Nice letter Scott. I agree you should try and get that into the media over there somehow. I believe you should send a similar letter to the individuals managing the Hotel over there for Radission. A version to the head of Radission wouldn't hurt either. I guess the number of people that deserve a copy of this is a rather long list.
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Excellent letter, I hope they at least read it and realize they aren't dealing with monsters, they're dealing with real people who are reasonable and willing to talk instead of using the guerrilla tactics that they've used.
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Nice letter. I hope you took the time to spell check and correct grammatical errors though.
Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

Well written, Scott.
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"Feel" would have at least been spelled correctly if I wrote it.
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:35 PM   #40
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Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

Well written, Scott.
There were a few, but they shouldn't be the focus of the letter, what matters is the content and the message.
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:41 PM   #42
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should have told them you were a deaf/mute/blind/gay male with his penis removed at the opening....they might have read it
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Nice letter but it will likely fall on death ears..

Probably would have been better off just calling them.. Idiots


i think you're trying to say "falling on deaf ears". NOT death ears....(just for future reference)
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Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

Well written, Scott.
"...in an effort of corporation,"
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