Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11964666)

idiot :thumbsup


happy now?

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 11965108)

ahhhhhhhh. Very happy. :)

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11961586)

email.
:2 cents:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 11961376)

Nice letter but it will likely fall on death ears..

Probably would have been better off just calling them.. Idiots

:winkwink:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11965071)

Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

Well written, Scott.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 11961181)

great letter, I wouldnt expect a phone call. Groups like that dont do well with rational thought, its easier to make shit up.

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 11965625)

"...in an effort of corporation,"

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 11965786)

Exactly. It is a real shame that this group had to resort to lies, if anything it will only discredit their future work and make most Icelandic people resent them. Not a very smart move. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn! (Post 11965786)

Exactly. It is a real shame that this group had to resort to lies, if anything it will only discredit their future work and make most Icelandic people resent them. Not a very smart move. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11966249)

i doubt thats true at all. they don't care about facts. thats like saying "PETA is violent and full of crap, so they won't have any members" - people believe in things that make them feel better about themselves and their existence... fact, reality and reason often play no role in those beliefs.

In Iceland, some angry women who have been abused and traumatized, found an external object to direct their anger and place blame for their pain... it was convienently an outside cause, a foreign cause and something far away that they will never have to directly confront with reasoned and rational debate... and they won. in their minds, they feel a small victory in what will no doubt, be a lifelong battle with their own demons. there is great irony in the idea of some sort of success on their part. tomorrow, they will still be hurting, troubled and in pain. tomorrow, the porn industry will remain totally unchanged.





PS - was a great letter by the way.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11966263)

tomorrow there will be more porn than there would have been before cause i and the other people slated to go are now not going on a vacation..

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11966288)

not only that, but they probably single handedly cause www.stigamottgp.com www.stigamotbabes.com and www.stigamotmilfs.com to come into existence

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11966207)

sad they never contacted me ever - just accused

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11965071)

Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

Well written, Scott.

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11966288)

not only that, but they probably single handedly cause www.stigamottgp.com www.stigamotbabes.com and www.stigamotmilfs.com to come into existence

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11961143)

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Congratulations.

You seem to have won and can celebrate a victory.

Being lied about and socially ostracized like I have been recently in the Icelandic media by your organization, I now have an idea how it must feel to be powerless against irrational, uncontrollable anger.

In effect, you basically denied a Canadian with Icelandic roots and no criminal record the ability to visit the land of his forefathers for a vacation. Something I have looked forward to for many years.

Did you affect the operations of the online adult industry at all? No. You interrupted the vacation time of some website owners who run legal operations. You had the opportunity to meet and discuss (with many of the highest traffic websites in the world) your concerns, but instead you chose to pass. You avoided the opportunity to effect what may have been positive change in the industry, and opted instead for terrorist tactics and lies, and had us cancel our vacation time so we could stay home and work more.

I honestly would have liked to have met with representatives of your organization to see if there was anything we could do in our operations to be more sensitive to the needs of groups like yours. I currently work with several groups and adhere to principles and practices that we helped to establish for many businesses in the online adult community. ASACP.com is one of them, please check out this organization's website.

I honestly feel your behavior in this matter only sets up an environment of hate, revenge and mistrust. I hope that you can overcome your anger someday, and I feel that if you ever wish to break the chains of oppression it will be done with agreements, understanding and rational negotiation.

Knowing the horrors many of you have gone though, I can forgive you for this overzealous behavior, and hope that in your hearts you have the courage to one day sit down and talk with myself, or other representatives of the online adult community, to discuss viewpoints and hopefully incorporate change and understanding for both of us in a more positive direction.

If you ever come to Canada I would be happy to extend an invitation to representatives of your organization to lunch or dinner and discuss this further in a civil manner. On me.

I wish only the best for the people in your recovery centers and feel for the horrors they had to experience.

Please accept my apology for the stress this vacation gathering has caused your organization.

Someday I hope we can move towards change. As a suggestion, maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media, in an effort of cooperation, goodwill and trust.

I pray you have the courage to read this and the integrity to respond.
Somehow I doubt it . Please prove me wrong.

Scott Hjorleifson
SleazyDream.com
ph 204 294 8883

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11966312)

oh my god - and DUKE needs to produce it :thumbsup

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11965071)

Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

Originally Posted by High Plains Drifter (Post 11968718)

haha don't you work with press releases? There's at least a dozen errors.

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 11966312)

oh my god - and DUKE needs to produce it :thumbsup

Originally Posted by emjay (Post 11970497)

I believe this fiasco represents an interesting PR opportunity for our industry as a whole.

This story has all the incredients of an interesting story in mainsteam media in other (non-nordic) countries - a nice little sex drama combo that I am sure the tabloids would pick up on.

This would highlight PETA's ignorance on porn, Radisson's hyprocracy, and highlight that through ACACP the industry is working to help combat child porn.

We could also throw in that far from exploiting women, porn actually celebrates women in all their wonderful shapes and sizes - unlike mainstrean, which does not.

A properly structured PR could actually turn this whole thing to our advantage, not to mention some nice publicity for Freeones and Sleazy:pimp

Originally Posted by JMan (Post 11973405)

Great letter Scott. Any response from anyone yet?