APIC strikes Again!
 

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THAT sucks ;(

WTF man? This is outta control. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/frown.gif

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Are they planning to close down all TGP's?
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This, if real, really scares me a bit... and I've been around and through a few lawsuits. Only because I thumb some of galleries I choose, all surfer submitted. I was under the impression that absolut got shut down for making their own galleries. So are my thumbs illegal? They sure as shit can't tell me were to link to, but they can claim the thumbs as copyrighted images!

This is bullshit, thank God I have a few good lawers backing my ass up!

move to Detroit man! None can catch us here

THIS WEBSITE IS CLOSED DUE TO THE ILLEGAL LINKING TO AND POSTING OF CRIMINAL FREEHOSTING PAGES.
TGP WEBSITES ARE BEING INVESTIGATED AND WILL BECOME EXTINCT DUE TO THE LIABILITY.


Is this not guilty until proved otherwise ?

What professional law company would make such sweeping statements.

There are SE links to these galleries.

holy shit.. that is no good at all. what happened? was someone using unlicensed pics? or was there illegal types of porn involved?

Shit this is getting to be worse than the antrax scare...LOL.

Pretty soon you guys are going to be afraid to log on and check your email bwahahaha for fear of something from APIC http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif

eros

Let's gather all tgps iframe them!

Now is a better time than ever to Join the Boneprone Family.

Think of us as a protection agency.


BP4L
Soon to be part of the APIC-BP4L Family.

AHHH...so it's a shakedown eh? LOL http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/biggrin.gif

eros

Carefull of the dues... sheep aren't cheap!

Those sites are all taken down for one reason: They built their own galleries and posted those. Those galleries contained stolen images. The copyright violation on those galleries is what got 'em down.

thehun is right...
using illegal images is asking for trouble http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/smile.gif

It's costly building a huge members area and copyright images are a huge no no..

TY, Hun... that's what I thought. I really don't have the time to ASK people for their license when I list them, that's up to them, and their host.

Peace,
-Paul

When are you people going to realize that this is a good thing?

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Labret is talking sense.

Fossa

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Hey friends, will all the tgps be closed soon? If yes, this is really bad news...;(

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It is one thing to shut down a site because of a direct copyright infringement from the tgp owner himself but it is another thing to shut down a site because someone submitted a gallery and is using stolen images. If the latter is the reason APIC is shutting down TGP's, then they are wrong. I hope it is the first reason these tgps have been shut down because if it isn't then APIC better start budgeting for body guards.

It's 404 completely now. I never got to see the notice; was it the same as the one on absolut?

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Hey bro -- good to see you here ;)

This is what I do... If a friend has licensed a photo set -- and he is featuring that particular model at his site... It's stupid as hell for me not to be able to link to his site w/ a thumb pic of that model (I assume this is what you are talking about) -- but because I'm paranoid I just hotlink the other site's thumbnail... (with permission from that webmaster of course) -- That way the license isn't violated -- because I'm not hosting any unlicensed content on my site. In any case I don't think there are too many content providers that will bitch about a thumbnail.

Suze Randall would never have been as popular on the internet if so many sites hadn't stolen her content -- finally she got smart and created an entire biz out of it -- she trades traffic for the use of content... I would like to see more real world solutions like this -- instead of pathetic and futile attempts to shut down the internet which is a battle lost by everyone, even before the lawyers collect their fees.

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[This message has been edited by TheFLY (edited 11-18-2001).]

why these fucking bitches donot warn you to just remove these galleries from your database

and sue submitters

Nice to see APIC shutting down illegal sites. I don't know why anyone is upset when unfair business practices are finally dealt with.

Boneprone, how much do you spend anually on content? Do you think it is fair that someone can go right-click-save your pics, and then post them themselves?

Here it is in a nutshell,
These boards are full of idiots.

If there wasn't an APIC, the entire adult web would have fried out long ago.
But who would expect morons to understand that???

FLY,

Suze Randall was famous long before you had a computer. Theft of her content did'nt make her successful, her talent did, and the fact that she has photographed all of the best and most famous adult stars.

The parasites that steal her stuff have cost her millions in lost revenue. But we wouldn't expect you to get it????

Go open a shoe store, then go steal all the inventory from your competitors.

Sometimes, adult webmasters scare the shit out of me, and convince me I should have done as my mother suggested, and become a lawyer. So much money to be made off the ducks.

First off, APIC can not shut down anyone. They have no authority to do anything. Now, they can issue some bullshit threat, and the webmaster that receives it can freak out and do everything APIC tells them to, but that is about where it ends.

Secondly, any site that has been told by APIC to close up shop, from my understanding, has been told to do so not because they posted a gallery with unlicensed content submitted by someone else, but rather because the owner of the TGP made his own galleries to post using unlicensed content.

Since English is not the native tongue to everyone here, let me give an example.

Say you own dumbasstgp.com and you get 100 submits from different cheaters with stolen content, and you post those galleries, APIC, and no one else can say shit.

Now, if you own dumbasstgp.com and you are not getting enough submits, so you steal a bunch of content (not licensed to you is stolen) and you make your own galleries to give your TGP some content, and this content is licensed by APIC then yes, they can threaten you, and tell you to take your site down.

However, it is up to you if you take your site down or not. If you do not, it is up to them if they want to take you to court or not.

In a nutshell, if you use unlicensed content, you are asking for trouble, and deserve whatever trouble you find yourself in. However, if you run a TGP and happen to post a gallery that someone else has unlicensed content on, you have no worries.

Hope this helps clear up some confusion. Those still confused should close up shop anyway.



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i pretty much agree with everything you just said.
if a site shots down becuz of APIC, he is either a coward, or he has really done a bad business and would get into really big trouble if they go to court.

so, let me get this straight, since you "pretty much agree with everything I just said" there is something I said that you so not agree with!?!? Sir, I will see you in court http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif j/k

or was I? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/wink.gif



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Ok genius boy -- and in your fantasy world Bill Gates would own the world by now if we hadn't all *stolen* copies of Microsoft fucking Windows.

Wow great analogy. Only problem is we don't sell shoes.

Anyway you underestimate the branding power of the internet... Old media is on the way out -- w/o the ubiquity these computer "theives" provide -- there would be many "players" that would now be media dinosaurs. Playboy is a prime example -- they still can't make dick for money on the net... I fucking wonder why? They are a bunch of greedy pricks with too many layers. We are the fucking future. Bow to the power. Suze Randall bowed to the power -- so did Vivid -- and so will all of them.

This is only the beginning.

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[This message has been edited by TheFLY (edited 11-18-2001).]

Fly,

where do you get your info? from milk cartons? If Suze Randall and Vivid "bowed to the power" why is it that they both appear on the APIC members list?

Inquiring minds want to know


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How are they making money on the internet?

Affiliate programs with *FREE* content. Did I just say *FREE* ???

Yeah I did.




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well, first off, I did not ask how they made money on the internet. You did.

To answer your question though, Suze and Vivid make their money through licensed content.

Affiliate programs that may give their content away for free have license to do so, and they are making their money from advertising and signups to their programs

No one makes money by having their stuff stolen, unless it is insured and they are pulling an insurance fraud scam



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They both have affiliate programs. Before they had affiliate programs -- there content was stolen *much* more.

Racquel Darrian is a perfect example. In the old days Racquel Darrian was one of the most popular links on my site -- I sent out 10,000+ visitors/day to Racquel Darrian links -- I had links to galleries with every pic that every horny guy in the world had found, scanned, stolen, etc... There was no affiliate program -- there weren't any pornstar affiliate programs either. There was no incentive for anyone to purchase pornstar content. Just like there is no incentive to purchase Playboy content -- because you can't buy it! It was virtually impossible to buy pornstar content back then. Ask Steve from Pornqueens... I remember when he was one of the first guys to be able to find a pornstars CD... If I remember correctly he was pretty secretive about where he found it ;) The were a few guys selling pornstar photo sets for $5000 (haha).

It wasn't until the Racquel Darrian affiliate program came out that webmasters started pulling down their pics in favor of pics provided by the Racquel Darrian affiliate program.

So I think you are missing my point -- I'm looking at the big picture. If there were no affilate programs there would be a lot more sites with stolen content -- that's a fact.

W/o affiliate programs, the fans of the models and pornstars would be building sites with free stolen pics -- regardless of profits. Not APIC, not anyone can stop people from wanting to share pics of their favorite models, pornstars, etc... Just jump onto IRC and you will see hundreds of people trading pics. You can't stop it. Just like the music industry will never be able to prevent people from making mix CD's for their friends of their favotire "stolen" songs.

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Here's an anology for you. The Hydra. The music biz lops of the head of Napster, and ten more grow in it's place. Fly, people, Fly.

As you can tell I love mythology/religion

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When will we see the BBBB? Boneprone Better Business Bureau? I need a seal of approval I can steal and put on my site.