Exactly my point. This concept is called,

"the internet"

Hahaha!!!





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Hell ... Even if it's only half of a percent ... that's two grand a month ...

Is there anyone here who couldn't use an extra two grand a month? ... LOL ...

I sure as hell could ... LOL

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Webmasters don't make traffic indigo. Porn surfers do.

So you agree with him? You really think that TGP's are killing the industry? That is too funny. I suppose that you think that "links" are killing the industry also -- after all -- a TGP is just links.

Keep dreaming.

Kimmykim -- if the internet was exactly the way you wanted it -- YOU WOULD HAVE ZERO TRAFFIC!

Hahaha!!!

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Now you are quoting me. This is too funny.

How can a "porn surfer" even exist if there is no free porn!?!?

What is he going to surf? Your tour? Hahaha!

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Wait, 1% of the revenues of the sites from the pirated content is NOT 1% lost from the pirated content. You can make $1000 from a picture set worth $30.

But it would make a lot of people happy, not least of which the content providers. The newsgroups are bad enough.

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Indigo ... I don't know much about pics in that regard ... and I was really referring to video ...

The example I referred to is an amateur (like myself) ... who runs a small site and produces their own content ...

That particular site sells insecure mpegs that are all over the net ... costing them a a fortune ...

The pirates are nuts for this girl ... and I'm sure a good number would pay if they had to ... but they get all her vids for free, cause she doesn't lock them down ...

I don't know the specifics about major content providers, because I'm not in that end of the business ... although I wouldn't be surprized if the piracy losses are huge there as well ...

The big guys usually have the best content protection around --- particularly for video (even though it's expensive) --- Probably because they make much more money by protecting their stuff ...

One webmaster told me he put out a Digital Rights Management Video and timed it out with one play ... The pirates got ahold of it and started buying it in droves once they saw it and determined they couldn't steal it ...

This demonstrates my overall point that piracy can be profitable if it's controlled ...

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fly pull your head out of your ass and look around you, the world is going by and you aren't even aware of the rotation.

First off, the traffic comment was made by ME, quite some time ago and often repeated. I've used it in posts(remember the one where I said sponsors didnt need resellers), articles, on webmaster radio shows, etc. so don't get all high (ok maybe you are high) thinking that you came up with something.

As for your traffic theories, well, floating the same bandwidth hogging, free loading, never will buy surfer around til he's blue in the face doesn't constitute traffic. It might make your counter stats look good but it ain't making money for anyone.

Long before you could spell tgp the paysite owners were raking in the dollars, and its freehosts, tgps and other such nonsensical scams that only worked in the beginning when no one knew what they were that ARE killing this industry right now.

Funny how you cant even manage to run a personal site where a few people call in but you want to get on this thread and tell people how to make money...

I agree. Afterall, there's a good number of complaints about junk traffic around here ...

Doesn't everybody need to make SOME money eventually? ... Or, maybe not ... LOL.

Personally ...I work too hard on my content to let it be stolen. I won't put anything on the net without locking it down as much as possible.

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Keep dreaming.



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Great board, great posts, lots of good feedback.
After speaking at length with my APIC connection, I believe there are a lot of myths floating around as there always is.
It's amazing how Webmasters would rather believe BS than the truth every time.

APIC said they have no intention of "Shutting down TGPs", only changing the way TGPs operate.
They seem to have a task force of insiders that can provide close enough info to prove the TGP Webmasters that are building their own galleries to link to. That was the real issue. An estimated 15000 free pages were generated by Absolut-Series Webmaster.

I was also told that the freesite problem is going to be stopped, or at least slowed to a minimum.
Freesite Hosts love to delete infringers. Especially after all the work is done. Nothing like having 100 links straight to the sponsor on every TGP every day. So if you want to spin your wheels every day, just keep posting those stolen pages.

And the DMCA requires IMMEDIATE takedown or the ISP becomes liable, so I advise people never to absorb too much on these boards, as there is more BS than truth.

After all, I'm just the Sothsayer of Doom.

and likely just a spammer.

"And the DMCA requires IMMEDIATE takedown or the ISP becomes liable, so I advise people never to absorb too much on these boards, as there is more BS than truth."
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obviously you aren't a lawyer.

You are the one with your head up your ass. Who died and made you the authority on the inner workings of adult internet traffic? You seem to claim to understand the root of all our money problems. Where are your solutions?

You seem to think that I'm just some kid who just discovered computers. I've been online for 18 years. This is my passion. Unlike most people I don't sit back lazy spouting bullshit like, "don't innovate, imitate" -- or nonsense that boils down to, "Who cares? Let's just make money!" -- most of these comments come from leeches -- a lot of imitators.

If most of these mindless automatons weren't stealing HTML code and search engine keywords to make easy money with affiliate programs -- they would be stealing unlicensed porno pics...

You don't have any ideas of your own. Did you ever stop to consider the dynamics of adult traffic? Ever stop to consider the past and the future of the adult internet or even the internet? Ever stop to consider the alternatives to your own limited line of thought?

I didn't think so.

I'm not here to just cause trouble. I'm here to raise important points that need to be made -- to give people ideas. Out of controversy comes fruition.

Go work on your sites and live your life in a continual state of mental paralysis...

meanwhile the real minds will be feeding you more mental appetizers for your dainty little mind to digest... a stupid mind is a comfortable place isn't it? Maybe if you're lucky you will die in a state of blissful ignorance with the rest of the proles.


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"Wars not make one great"

"Do or Do Not, there is no try"

-Yoda-

"We walk from here"

-Indiana Jones-

"board not hit back"

-Bruce Lee-

"What up my nikgka"

-Jackie Chan-

"I will Break You"

-Drago Rocky 4-

"My Nuts Itch"

-Boneprone The Great-

fly, you are truly an idiot.

you don't even qualify for moron.

Here's a little inside info for TGP Webmasters to help stop infringement.
Ban the following freehosts from posting.

terra.es
iddeo.es
eresmas.es
supereva.it
ya.com
pornsuite.net
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sex-mission.com
redxxxpages.com
space4porn.com
hotfreehost.com

this month in review

and these are the topics with the most posts