what is so super about an AVS site ?
 

I want to start an AVS site but I'm wondering what I can expect.

sincerley ez12

AVS site are the are usually the most profitable for a brand new webmaster. But free sites could be as well. Just start one up and submit to as many link lists as possible. If you can build one a day, and submit each one to about 100 link lists, you should make a some good money. But it does take work http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

You might consider doing both...Free site and AVS site.

I use the traffic from my free sites to feed my AVS site. This method sends alot of traffic without too much work. My AVS site has become my biggest sponsor! http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Is there a list of all those link sites? I can maybe think of 5 off the top of my head http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

http://www.thegatherers.com/

What is a AVS-site?

I've found that it's pointless submitting to 100+ link lists per day. Besides time consumption, there are a lot of overly-anal link list owners out there.

Just concentrate on about 16-20 of the biggest. Tommy , Greenguy, Sexual Linkage, PK, Richard's Realm, Link Fabulous, Mark's Links, Wet Place, Foxy's and a few others. Submit a good site and you'll be listed with ease. It's possible to get 2000+ unqies/day with a good site. Do that 365 times and... http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/biggrin.gif

IdInternet could you give me the url's cause I know all the sites but not all the exact url'sso if you could help me out.
Oh yeah and than another thing what is good quality I've started my AVS site and have got three galleries do I need more what do you think,

sincerley ez12 and many thnx for posting your reactions.

I submit daily to the following with FREE sites....
http://www.smutgremlins.com/ http://www.markslinks.com/ http://www.freepornlist.com/ http://www.link-guru.com/ http://www.findpics.com/ http://www.4adultsonly.com/ http://www.adultsexentertainment.com/ http://www.tommys-bookmarks.com/ http://www.link-o-rama.com/ http://www.koolkatlinks.com/ http://www.sexual-linkage.com/ http://www.sexclearinghouse.com/ http://www.alcoholinks.net/ http://www.wetplace.com/ http://www.sexynexus.com/

And I think that PK allows like 2 sites per webmaster. I'm not sure about the rules at Richard's Realm but he requires paid hosting... yada yada yada.

Build 7 free sites and 1 AVS site. Get your AVS site activated, then submit 1 free site daily to all of the above. Use the free sites to promote your AVS sites. Do it weekly.

If you get listed within 24-72 hours at all of the above, then you can expect 14,000 (better than tgp quality) uniques in the first week across your 7 sites. Do this weekly like I said, and you should soon be making some $.

Keep it up for a year or so, you'll start to get SE traffic on old sites... more signups and if you start NOW with quality sites, by next year if things are well you should be able to think about going full time.

But it takes hard work. The sites have to have the correct marketing techniques.

Another piece of advice is don't just chase "babes", "hardcore" or "amateurs" all of the time. Pick a special niche that you enjoy... bondage, face sitting, smoking, pregnant, trans, black, asian, cumshots, whatever. Even try the gay market... gay teens, bears, etc.

In the end you'll have some sites that make $200 month and some that make $2/month profit. Just work at it day after day, week after week.

but can I than submit the 7free sites each tine again when they are rotated out ?
are do I have to change the sites each time I submit again ?

sincerley ez12 and many thanks

The best way is to just build them, submit them (to the se's as well) and forget about them, make sure thet you have meta's on all ya pages and a bit of a description close to the top of the page and they'll get hits forever.



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No... the idea is not to rotate sites. You HAVE to build new sites each week and keep building.
Week1 - 7 sites, 1 avs
Week2 - 14 sites, 2 avs
Week3 - 21 sites, 3 avs

Don't do template sites. I myself could build 10 to 20 free sites daily within a few hours, not using a template but the problem is...
a. Most link lists want only 1 submission per day. I don't want to flood and be blacklisted.
b. I can't afford to buy 300 to 600 new pics every day for the sites.

So it's one free site per day and one AVS per week. If you can do more, then good luck to you. I'm not promoting AVS though on my site - I recently stopped promoting CEN to concentrate more on Fetish Cash. Two great sponsors by the way. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

ldinternet,

how many pictures do you put on a free site?

and i thought you could only have 2 sites listed with the green guy (link o rama)?



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ldinternet thanks for your response I don't wanna be blacklisted afcourse so thank you very much !

sincerley ez12

Could you post an example of your free site?

Thanks

30 pictures per site. 15 pics per page. I thought about having 10 pics but in the end I settled with 15. Because surfers have less to click on the main page, meaning the chances of clicking on a sponsor ad are increased. And also, more content means that I can be more agressive with my ads, use larger banners or bigger text links. Also never put "next gallery" on the pages on a free site. You know how some people do that to make navigation easier? That's a big design flaw. Make the surfer click back to the main page, so there is more ad exposure.

PK only allows 2 sites per webmaster. Greenguy allows as many as you like, but only submit 1 daily. His rules are here: http://www.link-o-rama.com/greenguy/therules.htm

There's no need to buy content every week. You just join sponsors that give you free content. Put them behind the avs, and no one knows http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

Yeah, I thought of that but after a while the content becomes over saturated. Unless you get in quick like the LPZIP/Maxcash deal, or use a smaller sponsor, then the free content is pretty much useless for getting listed. Maybe you can get away with using your own content 3 or 4 times for the same link list but I'd guess that would be all before the owner starts to notice.

I've had it before when doing galleries - Thumbzilla has rejected me for using over saturated "free" content.

Unless the sponsor gives access to their member area when the webmaster sends enough sales, then sponsor provided content becomes pretty much useless after a while (such as the old ARS or MaxCash content). Nobody will accept that, least of all TB and Greenguy.

Oh yeah, here's the example site...
http://www.megafreehost.com/ham/moo/teen/index.html

Is it just me or does that site give a 404?

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well tom that's you because I'm seeing the site perfectly.

sincerley ez12

RR doesn't require paid hosting! We sub him all the time with FH

ldinternet, do you put all the recips on one page or do you make different versions?

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Deluxe, I assure you that it isn't a 404. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

I make copies of the pages for about 16 link lists.

The basic structure is this...
http://www.mysite.com/folder/folder/index.html

then the main page will be located at
http://www.mysite.com/folder/main.html

So on the index page, I have to link to the main page by using "../main.html".

That way, all the link lists think that they're getting a real index page instead of index398.html or whatever. But they're not, instead of doing that I just make a seperate FOLDER for them, and link to main.html in the the directory above. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

I'm sorry ldinternet but these links give me a 404 error maybe it's my connection or maybe it's because deluxe and I are both from holland maybe you're europian connection isn't so good?

sincerley ez12

Ez12

he only uses mysite.com as an example for the structure of his site...

thanx ldinternet for your great posts and congrats with the gfy sweater you won!

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Deluxe, you're welcome. Hope that helps. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Do you submit galleries or warning pages? I was going to submit a site w/warning page to him but when I read his rules, it said "no sites on free space - geocities, hypermart, Porn City etc..."

Checked his free site pages and all I could find was paid hosted sites. No adult free hosts at all...

what does that have to do with my 404 error deluxe ?

sincerley ez12

EZ12 IT IS NOT A REAL URL, IT'S JUST TO MAKE THE STRUCTURE CLEAR, HE DOES NOT OWN A DOMAIN CALLED MYSITE.COM

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ID, we've just done tgp on his site for now. Haven't started hitting link lists very much yet. Hmm I'll have to go read the link list page when I get time

How to do the AVS thingy the $$$ way http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/biggrin.gif

1) Build site(I use 60 pics that's it)
2) Promote the hell out of it(TGP's, Picposts, Toplists whatever you can find if it brings a hit use it)
3) Forget it exists and build a new one
4) repeat the above starting from step 2

By the time you're at AVS site # 200 you'll be making big bucks http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

And to answer the question of this thread:

What's so great on an AVS site is that you controll the sales page(s) instead of a sponsor http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

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your right wolfshade, and i also think joining an avs is a smaller step for a surfer than joining a paysite, you can make it more personal and if you look like an amateur, a surfer loves you even more http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif



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Wolfshade,

What are your opinions of dialers on AVS sites? I thought about putting something like "I don't have an Age Check ID" and "I don't have a credit card" after a short tour... don't know whether it would work or not, or whether the avs systems would be too pleased with it.

Any thoughts on using dialers INSIDE the site? If avs surfers are more likely to whip it out (the credit card), then surely using a signup proggie would be better than a dialer?

One last question. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif What would you define as "big bucks"? Sorry, but I love money so much I can't resist. http://www.terra.es/personal4/jensel/img/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by ldinternet (edited 04-16-2001).]

Having two links like these:

Sign up with your creditcard here and below

Got no creditcard? NO PROBLEM get instant acces here!!!

Works goo dfor me http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

Inside you have to promote it like something REALY special with a slogan like banned in most countries! *LOL*

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Oops almost missed the last question http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif


Big bucks is actualy having to think on where to spend it to get it all out of ya account http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/biggrin.gif

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avs sucks.. get a real job.

what is so sucky about AVS ?
please give comment....

sincerley

AVS sites can be profitable in that not only do you recieve a commision on the AVS itself but the traffic that enters has shown their willingness to use their CC. One AVS hit is worth 350 hits from a free list anyday.
try these guys out

<a href="http://aux.avsofchoice.com/new_wm?refwm=3560051">CyberAge</a>

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Maybe it's me, maybe I'm a little fucked up. WolfShade help me out. Clear this up...

You only use 60 images on your AVS?

The only content you provide is 60 photos and that's it?

Am I missing something?

Do you own domain names for all of those AVS sites?

Why does it sound so odd to me?

Am I just not understanding AVS?

Anyone?

Reply first, call me an idiot after.

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I don't even use multiple domains I just make a www.pornforce1.com/AVSsitenamehere/

And then add it to FNP the free AVS I use that works well for me http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

And yes 60 pics is all it takes http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

What's not to understand about it?

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