I even have avs sites @freenetpass with only 10 pics (that's the minimum)

i make lots of small sites just for the link lists and some bigger sites to generate sales.


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Well, I just run a free site. I've been wanting to go adult for a while now. The site I have now borders on softcore depending on which host I go to. Some say it's adult, some don't seem to care.

I guess, I never really asked about it, but I always just assumed that AVS needed tons of content.

Those were the things I was going to talk to April about. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif


I haven't gone back through this post yet, but who do you use as the AVS? Adult Check? Your own system? And how do you sell someone on only 60 pics?

WolfShade, could you post an example of one of your AVS sites? Or should I go fuck myself? http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif



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Can someone post a few examples of AVS sites?

And can we talk about which AVS company is the best to use and why?

Peace,
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"2) Promote the hell out of it(TGP's, Picposts, Toplists whatever you can find if it brings a hit use it)"

Im not sure I understand, TGP and Picpost dont accept avs sites. Do you mean that you make galleries with links to your avs site? If yes thats like doing TGP posting but advertising your own avs site instead of advertising a sponsor...seems like a big badnwidth bill to me

TopList? Well dont you have to you have to send a lot of traffic to a toplist to get traffic? How can you do it with a new AVS site? sounds like very hard to me...

Link Sites? Most of them dont accept AVS sites..some do but they put them on the AVS section where nobody goes...

AVS sites seem great but I really wonder how to get traffic to them...

Did you really get traffic from the AVS listing? how many visitor by site and which AVS send you the most from their listing?

I'm sure that Wolfshade means build the galleries and put your banners on them, instead of the sponsors.

You could always use free hosting for the galleries. I do pretty well with that.... in fact, today was my best day ever on the tgps. Personally, I think it's sick... but foot fetish traffic kicks azz. Fetish Cash at http://www.fetishcash.com/ <--(great sponsor) did their part too. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Anyway, getting back on subject. With the toplists, you link the AVS site from your circle jerk site, which in turn you use to gain a place on the toplist.

Think about AVS for a moment. I submit a gallery to the tgps. I have a choice to promote either my AVS site or FetishCash. AVS pays $15 per signup, FetishCash pay $35 per signup. If my gallery dealt with bondage, face sitting, or foot fetish, then I'd send the traffic to FetishCash. But if it dealt with dwarfsex (ugh!), then there is no way that traffic will convert with any FetishCash sites. These people want to see naked dwarfs, dammit! http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif So I say I bought 50 dwarf pictures. I would use 20 to submit to the big tgps (AL4A, JJJ, Worldsex for example), and 15 to submit to the smaller tgps (NastyFetishPost, JayZ TGP, PinkWorld)or some of the bigger tgps that are less picky about number of images (The Hun, SnakesWorld, Richard's Realm, Dr. Bizzaro)

BUT. Think for a moment about link lists. What they do is send traffic to your free sites. From your free sites, you send it to your sponsor. But what if the link list would send the traffic straight to your sponsor, bypassing the free site? Well, I could go to the Greenguy now and ask him to link to Kara's Amateurs using my link code. But there's no way in hell that he would do it. BUT, remember, an AVS site is just like a very tiny paysite. Can you see where I'm going with this? Greenguy WILL list AVS sites. In other words, he WILL list my paysite.

Greenie sends a lot of traffic too. If you get a good listing on his "new sites" page you can expect 700 quality visitors per day from him. And that's everyday for 5 days I believe. Not bad eh? Submit an AVS site to him 1 per day every day, and if he accepts them all, you're looking at 3000 quality visitors to your paysite, each and every day forevermore. Not forgetting the traffic he sends from his archive (about 20/day). Once you've got 200 sites, you'll be getting 4000/day from his archives. And you'll still have sites being listed on the new sites page. That's a helluva lot of quality traffic, and a helluva lot of signups.

After 200 days, you should be making thousands each month, enough to live off just doing AVS. But how long to build an AVS siute? About hours per day. If you worked 8 hours per day, you'll have a chance to do other things. Submit a free site each day too. BANG! Another $15,000 year if you do it correctly. Also do a tgp gallery each day. BANG! Another $35,000/year if you know how do it correctly (3 signups/day!) It is easily possible. By now you're at $100k/year. Okay, do cybererotica is doing $80 maybe $90million year? When you've got enough $aved up, and enough traffic to pump around, you can think about starting your own small paysite. And as it grows, you'll have you're own webmaster program paying 60%. And as it grows further, you can start paying $30 signup. By this time, you're a big time fucking webfuckingmaster.

Assuming all goes well, of course. But remember that everyone had humble beginnings. Nobody in this biz has made $100k within a few days of entering it. NOBODY.

I've been working my ass off this past week, reading the boards more than ever and learning more than ever. I'm sharing tips I've learnt from people who are successful, and are earning $150k/year from working 20 hours weekly. Learning where to place banenrs, how to increase click throughs. And it's working, they're right! 6 signups today with FetishCash from tgp traffic, $210. I'm gonna fucking get there, I don't give a shit. If I could do that every day, I'd be hitting all the FetishCash bonuses and earning $40 signup. And at 6 signups day/365 days year, I'd easily be making almost $90k/year. Yes I'd have bad days, but they'd be balanced out by good days as my sites are indexed by search engines. Not to mention the fact that I'd still be building, expanding.

There's a guy who hangs out sometimes on the CyberErotica board, who runs a 200k/day tgp. It's one of those new fashioned shit, that relies heavily on link trades. Kind of like a CJ, 20% of galleries are blind link trades. He posted his stats. They're legit too. He's making $73,000 year with the single 200k tgp, because he's got a shit hot technique. I'll admit, I'm adopting that new technique in all of my free sites from now on. I won't say what it is, but it *IS* a great idea that I never even thought of.

So anyway, each and every day, do this...
1. 1 tgp gallery. Submit.
2. Build 1 free site. Submit.
3. Build 1 AVS site. Submit.

Within a year, you'll be fucking loaded. I'm starting NOW, fuck everyone else, I'm gonna fucking do it. I've kinda gone of the topic a little here, but fuck it, I've motivated myself. Right, now I'm off you build submit build submit build submit. See ya later, suckers! http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Holy Shit!!! Move over Tony Robbins, Idinternet is taking over.

I'm motivated enough to start doing that system, but first a little half-life, some tv, and then I'll start. I promise. Ok, Ok, Geez Louise, I'll start right now.

Thanks for the advice, and motivation.

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Hey RedShoe you play Half Life? I just signed up with AOL, and found later that they don't support online gaming. Bastards.

Maybe we should get a multiplayer game going with people from the board. That would be great.

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Sure. Too bad I would dominate though. I'm sure it would be fun for me for a while but then day after day of fraggin' you wannabes would get boring. Ooops. Was that outloud.

I'm not much of a webmaster, mostly because I focus all my time on Half life and TFC. I usually play under my domain name. 'LeeannOnline.com'

Hey it's a cheap way to advertise, and since it's just a lingerie site, no one minds.

Actually, I'm just ok at half life, TFC is where I'm pretty good. I was just trying to stir the pot, if you know what I mean.

If you know how to set up a server let me know, and I'll do it.

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I'm in the learning mode right now too, I've been submitting away to TGP's but finding they are sucking a lot of bandwidth, and not signing up. So going back thorugh my search engine optimization stuff to concentrate more on search engines.

ldinternet, could you tell me where you found the reasearch on banner placement? That is one thing I haven't found yet in my searches.

I really like this thread, I implemented Wolfshades suggestion of sep. sub dir. for each AVS system, signed up for CyberAge under whoever put their link up there http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif I signed up a few days ago with FNP.

I want to be sucessful too! So far this month I've made slightly less than my bandwidth cost, and I've spent hours! I want to do better, I want to learn to design my sites better so they sign up. So I'm reading the tips on Toms Newbie booster, checking the boards, taking a break from mass building to focus on quality...meaning sign-ups for me quality and SE and AVS hits.

Thanks for all the support on this forum! Any more AVS systems you recommend, post your referral links. I have FNP, CyberAge, and AdultCheck so far, so something other than them.



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I have no idea how to set up a server, but there should be some good info at Planet Half-Life.

I used to hang out in the netmag.co.uk games forum. A bunch of people would normally find a server that wasn't too busy, and play on that. As we're all in the UK, we normally used the Wireplay servers that were mostly empty at night. I guess most people only play at work. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif I haven't played for about 5 or 6 months.

Thought I don't think that the "empty server" method would work here, lol. As far as I know, all that is needed is a fast connection and it is possible to host a game.

Hey you seen the guys who use porno pics in their spraypaint logos?

Well, it's getting late here. 05:22am. I guess I should get some sleep... http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

Web_Mistress,

I don't remember where I found the banner placement info right now, though I'll make a note to look for it tomorrow. As soon as I find it, I'll let ya know.

were can i get a good avs software package
ie;site maker

OMG WOLFSHADE IS BACK...LONG TIME NO SEE! :thumbsup

How to make money with an AVS Site:

Build loads of small AVS sites under freenetpass which feature 30-40 pics and advertise the hell out of another AVS site of yours on these pages. Something like "Like these naked midget pissing pics? My friends got a shitload of them at his site....go check it out!" Advertising your SexKey (another free avs, they signed up once, they will do it again) site or whatever on all your little FNP sites will bring you rediculous ratios 1:4-10 or so and make you some nice bling.:2 cents:

What kind of fucking OLD thread is this? I can't believe I ever posted like that. No way. What a retard.

Fuck you all. :1orglaugh

what the hell was a mattress king?

I would suggest that you go to link-o-rama.com and tommys-bookmarks.com and look at the styles of new sites listed .

:)

Stop bumping.

DIE you bastard thread. DIE.

grrrrrrrrr

Xapster back when he was looking for inspiration? :-)

hehe- who let the cat out of the bag?

Call me stupid, but I say this is the best fucking thread I read at this board (true, It doesn´t look like I read much:) , but for sure I read much more than I post).

As I saw it, VERY intelligent and articulated people exchanging excellent ideas which could benefit everyone.

Ld, Redshoe, all who posted, all my intellectual respect for you.

I am going to read your postings in the archive, if you don´t mind:thumbsup

This is one of the best AVS threads you are going to find. Idinternet was such a nice guy (before he became a jaded Pro! LOL)

You guys might want to give Top Bucks new AVS a try. It's called One Verify. It's really nice. It wasn't around when this warm and fuzzy thread first started.

If you want to make good money with AVS, i'd suggest you build 2-3 sites a week and treat them as if they were pay sites (rather than 10-20/day spam sites). once you have say 50-100 sites covering many niches and different angles on niches.. just sit back and feed them with all your quality traffic and tweak the hell out of them.. just like you would a pay site. the initial money you make from sponsors will fade out and be replaced by money from sales to the AVS and you should do well. good luck.

Haven't tried One Verify myself, been using naked pass of late with some success..

You just need to use various AVS systems, and build 2-3 per week.. make em look good so they are different from all the junk

Nurgle

If anyone here wants to try the avs thing, let me know and I will give you 100% banner/text link free hosting, 50 mb site, 5 mb file size limit, and unlimited bandwidth or we can host your domain with email forwarding.

Promote your site thru tgps, link lists etc and it is no problem we can host it. Check out our rules they are very lax and we offer excellent webmaster referral bonuses.

I would even buy you a domain but I am afraid of legal issues if I gave away free domains :)

We will be at the convention in Fort Lauderdale, just look for the ugly guys in Naked Pass T-Shirts..

So no more excuses :)

Heck you can even get a free cd. If you dont have the signup I can advance you one as long as you promote the AVS!
http://nakedpass.com/freecd/

Click on Nurgle's link he knows what he is talking about!

Shoot this is far and away the best site building thread I have read in sometime.

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is nakedpass the same script as sexyavs eh?.. word of advice provide at least one gay sign up design so this doesn't happen : http://pussyenjoy.com/all_nature_boys/index3.html

chicks on a gay website signup form.. this will hurt your ability to sell gay.. sure the webmaster could get off his ass to change the graphic himself.. but since at least 70% of free AVS'ers design as badly as this one im not sure they'd know how to cut out and paste a guy in there.. and is it possible to cut out the page in between the "instant access" page and the sign up form... not only does it have pornstars on it (which could fuck up niches) it's just an extra click in between the user and his credit card.. sure it probably helps sell for the people that did a shit job of selling themselves.. but.. is it really necessary? could it be an option for people who want to do more than slap a few pics into dreamweaver to turn off?

I did an article on why AVS sites rule and how to make huge money from AVS sites here:

http://www.pornmasterz.com/articles/avsstategy.html


Enjoy!

Flow

3% clickthrough isn't that conservative... even inside an avs... you'd REALLY have to singleminded gear the site to sell one sponsor..

heheh naked pass.. im working hard on it ;)

Nurgle

http://nakedpass.com/webmaster/webmaster.php

http://sexyavs.com/webmaster/webmaster.php?siteid=

An adult verification site is about working smart too. This means if you have been a TGP webmaster and won't to move into the AVS market, use your existing TGP galleries as the members section so you only have to build a tour. You build an effective 2-3 page tour, use your existing clean gallery, and now you've got an AVS site! Then you promote the hell out of your AVS tour at LL, toplists, etc.

I think AVS a great way to protect content from people that should not be viewing it. But I know webmasters have free sites and tgp galleries so here are other ways to get set up while working smart.

Build a tour with avs script.
Mirror the tour with no avs script.
Build a main members page for ad placement.
Build two 20 image galleries.

With this recipe you can bake:
1 avs site
2 tgp galleries
1 free site

To add some spice to the mix, build an FNP Premium site with 300+ images (or whatever the requirement is for the AVS). Make a nice tour that will pull a lot of clicks, etc. Now on your entire site (see the recipe above) just promote your Premium site. This will cause new members from the free site and TGP galleries to buy a Premium membership and current members to upgrade to a Premium membership instead of going to a sponsor.

"But oh no! I want sponsor links!"
You put your sponsor links in the Premium site. Link to a few porn paysites, link to a DVD or sex toy shop, and link to a "free chat" or "free movie" site (where it's completely free for the surfer but you get paid for private chats or upgrades). Now the existing premium members will purchase from your free chat or sponsor links on the Premium site.

Booya!

If you can't make one sale every other month with an AVS site, you are doing something terribly wrong. But my point was not this simple math I present. I was the name of the game is making a lot of different AVS sites and submitting each of these sites to as many AVS as you can find. People that visit your galleries through an AVS are people that have used credit cards online for porn and will probably do it again. That is why I would rather have 100 AVS visitors to my gallery than 10,000 TGP visitors any day of the year.

Flow

I am personally happy with the AVS sale itself

Any sales i get from my members area is purely a bonus. I know i could probably do better from within my AVS, but i dunno i like to offer too many pics sometimes :)

Keeps the surfers happy.. and hell they may buy a different pass from a different AVS on another of my sites! :)

Nurgle

yeah i dig it... just that a 3% conservative means 5 or 6% "real"..

maybe I just think you shouldn't be making it SOOOOO attractive :)

ldinternet - excellent posts bro :thumbsup

don't say that, he was the same shit!

I remember when i first started posting, I had a fear that ldinternet could jump anytime from nowhere and start heavily critizing me....scary shit

That is what I mean to do - make it sound great because that is what AVS traffic is too me - great!