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Meloman 07-09-2004 02:08 PM

Can Cam Models Make BIG Money With Ifriends?
 
I know Ifriends is HUGE and makes bank per month. What about the models though? If done right (good cam equiptmant, huge constantly updated fan site etc.) are there models that make upwards of $10K a month..maybe even $20K+?

It says in there cam signup area that some models have now broke the Million dollar mark since Ifriends first launched.

My guess is that most people barely make $1K a month with it and the few that do make bank are the professional porn stars that all ready have a huge following and ifriends is just a simple way for them to run there adult sites. Am I right?

What I'm basically wondering is that since Ifriends is sooo huge and therefore has a ton of traffic....if it's possible to play there system full on and move to the top and be one of there biggest players and what that's worth?

Any feedback at all is greatly appreciated :-)

axelcat 07-09-2004 02:09 PM

yes

dropped9 07-09-2004 02:12 PM

Are you gunna get nekkid big boy?

Meloman 07-09-2004 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Headless
Are you gunna get nekkid big boy?
Only if you're my best customer :winkwink:

Actually in all honesty a very close friend of mine is looking at getting in the business and we're just tossing a million ideas around.

I'm just wondering if Ifriends can be a simple way in. It's all about learning there system and figuring out how to rank the best. So I'm wondering if with my webmaster talent I could learn there system and get her ranking top dog and in return get 50% :winkwink:

She is SUPER fine too...at least I think so, lol.

A C 07-09-2004 03:27 PM

Put your models in www.livewebfriends.com/main.php?exit=false ifriends is too flooded

AC

SykkBoy 07-09-2004 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by A C
Put your models in www.livewebfriends.com/main.php?exit=false ifriends is too flooded

AC

:thumbsup

tony286 07-09-2004 03:31 PM

A long time of ago not anymore too many girls.

molly_muddblood 07-10-2004 12:36 PM

Cam equipment and having a huge updated fan site has no correlation to success. There are girls who make G's without offering sound, without getting ANY outside traffic, or showing their face in free pics, or taking their clothes off. Being hot isn't a factor either, it's a requirement. All of your guesses are incorrect, and being flooded just makes the good apples rake in all of the benjamins because those are humans visiting that site, not statistics. Remember that live webcams are unlike any other type of adult entertainment, and standard sales techniques are no substitute for insight. Try it out before you develop any strategies because camming is not for everyone. Dumping insane amounts of traffic will generate money for practically anything, but it wont put you on the rankings without a hard-working, dedicated cam girl who has experience, doesn't yell-to-sell, and strives for self-improvement. Good luck and best wishes for fortune.

Elli 07-10-2004 12:41 PM

hehe I was on Ifriends five years ago when a solo girl show cost 4.99$ a minute, and hardcore sex shows were 7.99 and up. Then some brainiacs started the .99 shows and everyone else had to compete. The bottom fell out and the surfers got REALLY mouthy, so I left. The cheques were nice, but definitely weren't worth that kind of abuse.

Meloman 07-10-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by molly_muddblood
Cam equipment and having a huge updated fan site has no correlation to success. There are girls who make G's without offering sound, without getting ANY outside traffic, or showing their face in free pics, or taking their clothes off. Being hot isn't a factor either, it's a requirement. All of your guesses are incorrect, and being flooded just makes the good apples rake in all of the benjamins because those are humans visiting that site, not statistics. Remember that live webcams are unlike any other type of adult entertainment, and standard sales techniques are no substitute for insight. Try it out before you develop any strategies because camming is not for everyone. Dumping insane amounts of traffic will generate money for practically anything, but it wont put you on the rankings without a hard-working, dedicated cam girl who has experience, doesn't yell-to-sell, and strives for self-improvement. Good luck and best wishes for fortune.
So basically you're saying as long as the girl is super hot above average AND she puts on quality shows then she can easily beat out people. So it's basically about being good looking enough and having a good enough personality that'll keep people coming back for more and then the $$$ add up.

Hmmm.... you got my mind thinking, lol

nastyking 07-10-2004 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by A C
Put your models in www.livewebfriends.com/main.php?exit=false ifriends is too flooded

AC

ifriends is too flooded

that's actually a good reason to choose them if you are a model :Graucho

Meloman 07-10-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
hehe I was on Ifriends five years ago when a solo girl show cost 4.99$ a minute, and hardcore sex shows were 7.99 and up. Then some brainiacs started the .99 shows and everyone else had to compete. The bottom fell out and the surfers got REALLY mouthy, so I left. The cheques were nice, but definitely weren't worth that kind of abuse.
Gotcha...so people can be really rude dicks on there and make the job that much harder.

I definetly am going to give this a try just to see how it is. I have 2 girls now willing to give this a whirl. One girl is cute and the other is a total hottie. The total hottie girl could can make a KILLING on the web if marketed right. I don't play around with nickle and dimes either, so I'm exploring all options cause I only want to invest my time in something with a good chance of success.

I also checked out the other cam company mentioned in this thread. I'll probably get the girls listed on multiple cam sites as a comparison test. Maybe working multiple cam networks at once could be a good business model?

Thanks for all the feedback everyone! I appreciate it :-)

doornx 07-10-2004 03:02 PM

might want to check out imlive.com...solid program and not as flooded as ifriends

Dagwolf 07-10-2004 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman

One girl is cute and the other is a total hottie. cam networks at once could be a good business model?

Thanks for all the feedback everyone! I appreciate it :-)


Never underestimate the power of cute.

And, from my understanding, BBW camgirls can make the bucks too. I wouldn't tell any girl not to at least try camming if she wants to.

Babagirls 07-10-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
hehe I was on Ifriends five years ago when a solo girl show cost 4.99$ a minute, and hardcore sex shows were 7.99 and up. Then some brainiacs started the .99 shows and everyone else had to compete. The bottom fell out and the surfers got REALLY mouthy, so I left. The cheques were nice, but definitely weren't worth that kind of abuse.

same here lol i started caming on ifriends, thought the checks were really nice, but then every other guy comin in the room wanted something for free, or as they call it "warming up..." :1orglaugh

went to sexxyeyes.com, and never looked back! :thumbsup

molly_muddblood 07-10-2004 03:30 PM

99 cents? It's gotten worse, now there's free shows for a monthly price that you can cancel out of. The top girls still charge $5-$6/min, and who said BBW aren't included in the hot category? The cute ones are delicious.

I don't see why the corporate offices of cam sites haven't gotten wise to the prostitution problem. Huge losses are going out the door and only the hookers get paid while permanently removing whales from the marketplace. 3 hoes can yank $5,000-$10,000 in one month from one site, and they get their johns sent to them without having to spend time on doing anything but lines and drying off. It's funny how many free sites I go to thats promoting a specific cam girl and I'm like, "Haha, they don't even know she's a whore and they're sending webmasters' biggest paying customers directly to her without her even knowing it and they'll never return to porn again". It's not limited to one cam site either. That's their problem though, I don't rat on chicks I know and I don't want to step on Tommy Vercetti's toes either if he's running a "greasy" affiliate program lol.

molly_muddblood 07-10-2004 03:44 PM

Quote:

So basically you're saying as long as the girl is super hot above average AND she puts on quality shows then she can easily beat out people. So it's basically about being good looking enough and having a good enough personality that'll keep people coming back for more and then the $$$ add up.

Good enough personality doesn't necessarily mean quality shows. Quality shows means knowing how to handle members and give them what they don't even know they wanted. It also requires a strong grasp of niche marketing and just plain good-ol experience since each girl brings her own magick to the table. When some guys ask for A, they'll also like B but are too afraid to ask or don't even know they like it. It's up to the cam girl to recognize these things because cam sites don't have sales handbooks like what can be found in the phone sex industry. She also has to be able to pull off a vareity of looks, classic and original, or risk becoming stale and stamped as a "same ol' bitch".

Meloman 07-10-2004 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by molly_muddblood
99 cents? It's gotten worse, now there's free shows for a monthly price that you can cancel out of. The top girls still charge $5-$6/min, and who said BBW aren't included in the hot category? The cute ones are delicious.

I don't see why the corporate offices of cam sites haven't gotten wise to the prostitution problem. Huge losses are going out the door and only the hookers get paid while permanently removing whales from the marketplace. 3 hoes can yank $5,000-$10,000 in one month from one site, and they get their johns sent to them without having to spend time on doing anything but lines and drying off. It's funny how many free sites I go to thats promoting a specific cam girl and I'm like, "Haha, they don't even know she's a whore and they're sending webmasters' biggest paying customers directly to her without her even knowing it and they'll never return to porn again". It's not limited to one cam site either. That's their problem though, I don't rat on chicks I know and I don't want to step on Tommy Vercetti's toes either if he's running a "greasy" affiliate program lol.

So you're saying some of the girls are straight up prostitutes that get the guy to come to them off camera and therefore remove money from the cam network?

You seem very experienced about the whole cam industry. I would love to chat more with you about what I have planed. Maybe I can send you some traffic or trade tips in return :thumbsup

Hit me up on ICQ if you're interested :)

tony286 07-10-2004 04:12 PM

You also have to be very patient my wife has been doing it for 4 yrs. Its like sitting there wating for a bus. Alot girls cant just sit there and wait. My wife has always had two monitors so it wasnt as painful.

Kard63 07-10-2004 04:13 PM

The bottom half of your rant made little sense.


Quote:

Originally posted by molly_muddblood
99 cents? It's gotten worse, now there's free shows for a monthly price that you can cancel out of. The top girls still charge $5-$6/min, and who said BBW aren't included in the hot category? The cute ones are delicious.

I don't see why the corporate offices of cam sites haven't gotten wise to the prostitution problem. Huge losses are going out the door and only the hookers get paid while permanently removing whales from the marketplace. 3 hoes can yank $5,000-$10,000 in one month from one site, and they get their johns sent to them without having to spend time on doing anything but lines and drying off. It's funny how many free sites I go to thats promoting a specific cam girl and I'm like, "Haha, they don't even know she's a whore and they're sending webmasters' biggest paying customers directly to her without her even knowing it and they'll never return to porn again". It's not limited to one cam site either. That's their problem though, I don't rat on chicks I know and I don't want to step on Tommy Vercetti's toes either if he's running a "greasy" affiliate program lol.


Kard63 07-10-2004 04:14 PM

no one is giving you hard figures.... I was interested in them.

Kard63 07-10-2004 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
You also have to be very patient my wife has been doing it for 4 yrs. Its like sitting there wating for a bus. Alot girls cant just sit there and wait. My wife has always had two monitors so it wasnt as painful.
Why doesn't she use 4 or 5 services simultaneously so she is more likely to be busy? Do you know what irls are making now in 8 hours?

tony286 07-10-2004 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kard63
Why doesn't she use 4 or 5 services simultaneously so she is more likely to be busy? Do you know what irls are making now in 8 hours?
Thats hard to do because if I am correct you would need 4 or 5 cams and probabkly that many computers . Also when they come in to free chat you have to be on them quickly or they leave. Hard to do with 5 of them at once.

Meloman 07-10-2004 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
You also have to be very patient my wife has been doing it for 4 yrs. Its like sitting there wating for a bus. Alot girls cant just sit there and wait. My wife has always had two monitors so it wasnt as painful.
Interesting... I kinda figured as much though. The biggest problem I'm facing is that the one girl is also a very, very successfull stripper pulling in over $10K - $20K monthly. She's gotten tired of stripping and likes how I make more then she does all from my computer at home and therfore wants to give this a try too.

But the problem is that there's no way in hell she's going to make $10K monthly right out of the gate. So I need to use my "skills" to get her stuff cranking something decent as quickly as possible before she gets bored and moves on. Sitting in front of the computer for 4 hours just to get a 20 minute cam session that will earn her less than $100 is a sure fire way for this NOT to work out, lol.

I know there has to be some girls out there that pull in BANK... I just need to figure out exactly what there strategy is and be able to get there super quick. And just like everything else in this business, if it works out then I'll milk it for all it's worth.

Meloman 07-10-2004 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Thats hard to do because if I am correct you would need 4 or 5 cams and probabkly that many computers . Also when they come in to free chat you have to be on them quickly or they leave. Hard to do with 5 of them at once.
Hmm..... Would be very cool if someone invented some software that could let a girl work multiple rooms/networks at once. Log into the program and it logs u into multple rooms at once etc..

I wonder if anyone has thought of that and if the software exists...even privatly????

Kard63 07-10-2004 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
Hmm..... Would be very cool if someone invented some software that could let a girl work multiple rooms/networks at once. Log into the program and it logs u into multple rooms at once etc..

I wonder if anyone has thought of that and if the software exists...even privatly????

What is it that you currently do? Adult ? Just not cams?

JFK 07-10-2004 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kard63
What is it that you currently do? Adult ? Just not cams?
read his sig ??

Melo, we used to promote I friends a few yrs ago. It was great at first, then like others have said it went for a shit. So you need to work on a different angle:2 cents:

Meloman 07-10-2004 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kard63
What is it that you currently do? Adult ? Just not cams?
What I currently do is:

1. Am a successfull adult webmaster with my own traffic network.
2. Am the Traffic Manager for Webquest and manage there exit traffic (Hustler.com, Vivid.com etc.).

I meet people all the time that want to also make money on the inernet just like we all do. And of course most people get my usual lines about it's hard to do etc.. and get them off my case that way.

In this particular case it's about a girl I've dated a bit on and off the past year or so. Since we're cool I figured I'll give her some help getting started....but at the same time I want to make money too (I don't come cheap). So my thinking is if I can get her making decent money and then add on more girls and multiple my earnings. Might work, might not.... I'm going to give it a shot but at the same time am busy enough with my OWN work that this isn't going to be some huge ass project for me, lol.

Donnie Gangsta 07-10-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
Hmm..... Would be very cool if someone invented some software that could let a girl work multiple rooms/networks at once. Log into the program and it logs u into multple rooms at once etc..

I wonder if anyone has thought of that and if the software exists...even privatly????

hey bro.. we have software like this you can use.... hit me up on ICQ 868140 ... you can put her on as many sites as you want/your connection can handle simultaneously

tony286 07-10-2004 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
Interesting... I kinda figured as much though. The biggest problem I'm facing is that the one girl is also a very, very successfull stripper pulling in over $10K - $20K monthly. She's gotten tired of stripping and likes how I make more then she does all from my computer at home and therfore wants to give this a try too.

But the problem is that there's no way in hell she's going to make $10K monthly right out of the gate. So I need to use my "skills" to get her stuff cranking something decent as quickly as possible before she gets bored and moves on. Sitting in front of the computer for 4 hours just to get a 20 minute cam session that will earn her less than $100 is a sure fire way for this NOT to work out, lol.

I know there has to be some girls out there that pull in BANK... I just need to figure out exactly what there strategy is and be able to get there super quick. And just like everything else in this business, if it works out then I'll milk it for all it's worth.


10 to 20 k never happen not nowadays also if she is used to stripping that's cash thats immediate. This is checks say goodbye to one third for taxes.

Kard63 07-10-2004 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
hey bro.. we have software like this you can use.... hit me up on ICQ 868140 ... you can put her on as many sites as you want/your connection can handle simultaneously
If you get around to approving me we can alk about it ;)

Meloman 07-10-2004 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
10 to 20 k never happen not nowadays also if she is used to stripping that's cash thats immediate. This is checks say goodbye to one third for taxes.
Interesting... I kinda figured most girls don't make much caming.... but I'm also kinda looking at this just like the regular webmaster side. Most webmasters don't make squat either and are just tgp guys making beer money. But some of us have mastered this game and rose to the top.

Isn't the cam girl industry the same way? Most don't make squat but there are SOME that do make real money? And not trying to brag....but most don't have ME as there webmaster, lol.

It does sound like this is by no means easy and making real money is gonna take some work, experience and lots of hours.

So much to do, so little time, lol.

tony286 07-10-2004 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
Interesting... I kinda figured most girls don't make much caming.... but I'm also kinda looking at this just like the regular webmaster side. Most webmasters don't make squat either and are just tgp guys making beer money. But some of us have mastered this game and rose to the top.

Isn't the cam girl industry the same way? Most don't make squat but there are SOME that do make real money? And not trying to brag....but most don't have ME as there webmaster, lol.

It does sound like this is by no means easy and making real money is gonna take some work, experience and lots of hours.

So much to do, so little time, lol.


It's different then running a site a site is a 24 hr thing. Webcam is certain hrs a day and I am telling you a girl used to making big money stripping wont have the patience for the web. Also if you think she is the only hot girl out there you will find out different real quick lol.

Meloman 07-10-2004 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
It's different then running a site a site is a 24 hr thing. Webcam is certain hrs a day and I am telling you a girl used to making big money stripping wont have the patience for the web. Also if you think she is the only hot girl out there you will find out different real quick lol.
I hear what you're saying and it makes sense. It's exactly the reason I am looking at ifriends. They have fan sites you can build for each girl. So basically along with the archive you can also build out a full site for the girl.

So my original thinking is to get good equiptment, create a bunch of content for the fan site and THEN have the girl start caming. Therefore regardless if she's online or not her fan site and archive can be generating cash too. Not too mention they allow girls to create multiple accounts. So I figure I could play the "spam" game and just make 10 different ifriend sites per girl.

Does any of this sound like a decent plan or is it all totally off base?

I have NO idea about anything in the cam industry so all the advice you guys are sharing is great and I appreciate it :-)

Elli 07-10-2004 05:44 PM

Hey, I remember the prostitutes, too. What a rip that was. There has to be some huge liability locked up in that arrangement, but it seems everyone was turning a blind eye.

zentz 07-10-2004 06:01 PM

*chuckle politely*

Meloman 07-10-2004 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Hey, I remember the prostitutes, too. What a rip that was. There has to be some huge liability locked up in that arrangement, but it seems everyone was turning a blind eye.
So what's the story with this? Prostitutes lure the guys off the cam site? But how profitable is that considering the web cam network is world wide and they would need local guys finding them?

Meloman 07-10-2004 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zentz
*chuckle politely*
What's funny? :)

mhende6600 07-10-2004 06:25 PM

Buy domain names for each girl, start a small paysite and offer cam shows from YOUR paysite thru ifriends and other cam networks then get the members from ifriends to join YOUR pay site not the ifriends mysite they offer chathosts. Hope this helps.

Meloman 07-10-2004 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mhende6600
Buy domain names for each girl, start a small paysite and offer cam shows from YOUR paysite thru ifriends and other cam networks then get the members from ifriends to join YOUR pay site not the ifriends mysite they offer chathosts. Hope this helps.
I read a lot of the TOS at ifriends and it says you can not mention any other website while in ifriends chat. So you're not suppose to use ifriends as a way to get members into your paysite.

But we all know rules are meant to be broken :Graucho So is this rule not very well enforced on ifriends? Is it pretty common to push your own sites while in chat?

The only other problem I see with creating small paysites is that you then need to generate traffic to them, which I don't have time to do for others. But I see your point though...the paysite isn't meant to get your own traffic, but the ifriends traffic you're bringing over.....but that again comes down to if it's allwowed?


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