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Lev 03-18-2004 11:31 AM

Bush, you FUCKED UP AGAIN!
 
You already losing two allies. With Spain soon to withdraw troops and now poland

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...eu/poland_iraq

The terrorists have won again and Bush is losing the "war on terror", because engaging in unnecessary war, especially in a Muslim country, will just escalate the tensions between America and the Muslim world. This is too funny to watch, how this administrations has no fucking clue in foreign policy. It will be interesting which country is next to realize that this war was for imperialistic purposes and not for "freedom"

cherrylula 03-18-2004 11:33 AM

http://www.moveon.org/censure/

12clicks 03-18-2004 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lev
You already losing two allies. With Spain soon to withdraw troops and now poland

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...eu/poland_iraq

The terrorists have won again and Bush is losing the "war on terror", because engaging in unnecessary war, especially in a Muslim country, will just escalate the tensions between America and the Muslim war. This is too funny to watch, how this administrations has no fucking clue in foreign policy. It will be interesting which country is next to realize this war for imperialistic purpuses and not for "freedom"

oh no! whatever will we do with out the help of Spain and Poland.
you kids don't really have a grasp of world power, do you?

12clicks 03-18-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
http://www.moveon.org/censure/
anyone who believes there were no WMDs is really the dumbest of the dumb.

(but then, thats who moveon.org and the dems play to, isn't it?):1orglaugh

rett11 03-18-2004 11:38 AM

they destroyed the weapons...and the fact that ANYONE has pulled out of Iraq is bad for us. do you really think the world's perception of us is meaningless?

Roger 03-18-2004 11:39 AM

Mislead? My ass, he should've known that Saddam posed no threat. I think the guy is just trying to save his own ass and doesn't want to loose the elections.

cherrylula 03-18-2004 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


anyone who believes there were no WMDs is really the dumbest of the dumb.

(but then, thats who moveon.org and the dems play to, isn't it?):1orglaugh

I don't care about the details, as long as it all helps speed up the revolution.

:BangBang: :Graucho :1orglaugh

Roger 03-18-2004 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


anyone who believes there were no WMDs is really the dumbest of the dumb.

(but then, thats who moveon.org and the dems play to, isn't it?):1orglaugh

Quote:

And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq...
- Powell's press conference on 24 February 2001 about the sanctions

Looks like Powell qualifies, doesn't he?

Lev 03-18-2004 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


oh no! whatever will we do with out the help of Spain and Poland.
you kids don't really have a grasp of world power, do you?

It's not how many troops they have there or what they contribute, it's the image that counts. With less and less countries supporting us on the international arena, we are more and more pressured as to what was the purpose of this war and if all those lifes that were taken were worth this war.

World power comes at a cost, which U.S. have underestimated. No empire lasts forever.

Roger 03-18-2004 11:47 AM

It's all about perception.

warlock667 03-18-2004 11:52 AM

YOU ARE A LOSER*

*Note spelling for the illiterates.

Drake 03-18-2004 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger
It's all about perception.
Agreed

jpwhits 03-18-2004 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lev

No empire lasts forever.


i dont think America qualifies as an empire

JDog 03-18-2004 12:02 PM

Good, and I hope that Tony pulls out too! We created a war that had no evidence of nothing!

The UN weapons inspectors couldn't find SHIT and BUSH kicked them out before they could finish their investigation!

We are the only country that should take the fall for it! We're also gonna lose ALOT of Allies because of Bush's bullshit!

Just my :2 cents: though!

jDOG

12clicks 03-18-2004 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger
- Powell's press conference on 24 February 2001 about the sanctions

Looks like Powell qualifies, doesn't he?

nope, but this post proves once again that you do.:thumbsup

rett11 03-18-2004 12:11 PM

try to come up with some real arguments 12clicks.

12clicks 03-18-2004 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lev


It's not how many troops they have there or what they contribute, it's the image that counts. With less and less countries supporting us on the international arena, we are more and more pressured as to what was the purpose of this war and if all those lifes that were taken were worth this war.

World power comes at a cost, which U.S. have underestimated. No empire lasts forever.

Here's the only image that counts.
The US is fighting terrorists.
you're either with us or against us
when you're with us, you make out better in the end.

keep watching france. In the next 10 years they will be an example of how appeasers never learn and never win.

12clicks 03-18-2004 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by rett11
try to come up with some real arguments 12clicks.
to combat what, your scary knowledge?:1orglaugh

rett11 03-18-2004 12:13 PM

'fraid so.

Roger 03-18-2004 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
nope, but this post proves once again that you do.:thumbsup
Actually you seem to be the dumb one for believing that Saddam have WMD's. If he had they wouldn't have invaded him, look at NK.

sixxxth_sense 03-18-2004 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


oh no! whatever will we do with out the help of Spain and Poland.
you kids don't really have a grasp of world power, do you?

WE???

wtfck u fight the war out of ur cyber CHAIR FAT BOY???

STFKU

12clicks 03-18-2004 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixxxth_sense


WE???

wtfck u fight the war out of ur cyber CHAIR FAT BOY???

STFKU

oh look, the elementary school had a half day.

12clicks 03-18-2004 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger


Actually you seem to be the dumb one for believing that Saddam have WMD's. If he had they wouldn't have invaded him, look at NK.

does this make more sense if I run it thru babblefish?

xenophobic 03-18-2004 12:35 PM

the problem with trying to find chemical/biological weapons is that such weapons may be "binary agents" with two ingredients that are innocuous, a good example of that is sodium chloride gas, very poisonous in it's mixed state, two relative harmless materials when not prepared as a weapon.

I doubt any binary agent is going to have instructions written on them for mixing with ingredient B to kill X amount of people, so proving that they were ever intended as weapons is extremely hard.

Rhino22 03-18-2004 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


anyone who believes there were no WMDs is really the dumbest of the dumb.

(but then, thats who moveon.org and the dems play to, isn't it?):1orglaugh

So where are they exactly? I havn't seen them yet...

Rhino22 03-18-2004 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

you're either with us or against us
.

12clicks, i'm sorry, but that is very ignorant to say. I know Bush said it first, you're just following the motto. It's okay.

You're with us or against us? After 9/11 Iranians woke up in the middle of the night and lit candles for the fallen people of 9/11. The next day Bush spoke with the Iranian people to have them allie with the US against the war on Terrorism. Iranian's did not want to have a part in any of the war. They simple wanted to live peacefully, so they said no.

A few days after Bush came out with his little "Axis of Evil" bull shit and listed Iran as one of them. Does that make sence to you? A country that doesn't want to get inolved in a war is now apart of the axis of evil? A country that mourned the death of thousands of American's is now apart of the axis of evil? C'mon, think about it...

XxXotic 03-18-2004 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


oh no! whatever will we do with out the help of Spain and Poland.
you kids don't really have a grasp of world power, do you?

for the absolute first time in my life I actually agree with you


someone please shoot me

xenophobic 03-18-2004 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22


So where are they exactly? I havn't seen them yet...

please read my above post about binary agents, further we're talking about a country reported to be the size of California, If I buried 12 barrels of water in the state of California, would you be able to find them?
some types of pathogen kill in immeasurable dosages, some chemical weapons, for example VX can kill hundreds of people with a single aerosolized teaspoon size dose, so a single pintsize container could be a WMD, but how would you find it, in a country of that size?

the indigo 03-18-2004 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


Here's the only image that counts.
The US is fighting terrorists.
you're either with us or against us
when you're with us, you make out better in the end.

keep watching france. In the next 10 years they will be an example of how appeasers never learn and never win.

You have a serious problem.

:helpme :1orglaugh

Fukeneh 03-18-2004 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


oh no! whatever will we do with out the help of Spain and Poland.
you kids don't really have a grasp of world power, do you?

how did i know 12clicks would hop right in here.

xxxdesign-net 03-18-2004 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


anyone who believes there were no WMDs is really the dumbest of the dumb.


LOL if you say so...

I would be tempted to ask you if you could make us the honor of explaining your reasoning or intellectual gymnastic behing such an opinion... but that would be mean...

Roger 03-18-2004 01:17 PM

One day they have ready-made wmd's and the other they're working on binary mix-and-use agents that are hard to find and apparently can't be used when the country is getting invaded.

I feel threatened :)

xenophobic 03-18-2004 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



LOL if you say so...

I would be tempted to ask you if you could make us the honor of explaining your reasoning or intellectual gymnastic behing such an opinion... but that would be mean...

perhaps all the dead iranians, and kurds he used chemical/biological weapons on could explain it for him?

zzgundamnzz 03-18-2004 01:20 PM

Tune in to CNN. Looks like Bush' might get #1 or #2.

xxxdesign-net 03-18-2004 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xenophobic


perhaps all the dead iranians, and kurds he used chemical/biological weapons on could explain it for him?

LOL uh... that was more than 15 years ago... before it was illegal for them to have such weapons... uh...

xxxdesign-net 03-18-2004 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger
they're working on binary mix-and-use agents that are hard to find and apparently can't be used when the country is getting invaded.



Stop it, 12clicks is going to use that to back up is claim that "anyone who believes there were no WMDs is really the dumbest of the dumb." :1orglaugh

cherrylula 03-18-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


Here's the only image that counts.
The US is fighting terrorists.
you're either with us or against us
when you're with us, you make out better in the end.

I'm going to start shouting that out at the Mexicans I see out in public selling oranges and used goods on street corners.

"Hey motherfucker! You're either with us, or against us!!!!"

:1orglaugh

I wonder what they would say/think about that?

digi 03-18-2004 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


Here's the only image that counts.
The US is fighting terrorists.
you're either with us or against us
when you're with us, you make out better in the end.

keep watching france. In the next 10 years they will be an example of how appeasers never learn and never win.

you dont even know that france are actually helping you find bin laden as we speak right?

xenophobic 03-18-2004 01:32 PM

so your basis of belief is that because he used them 15 years ago he has no more?

He had weaponized plutonium during the first gulf war, in an effort to build a nuclear weapon, the inspectors even after the 1st gulf war said that they had made attempts to re-activate their then defunct nuclear program, the UN even crushed the so called "bagdadatron" (magnatron) used to harvest fissile material for a bomb, and he continued to try and reactive his weapon program.

Saddams only control on his neighbours and his own people was fear, it would seem to me he would obtain that status any way possible, including by manufacture of WMD.

Roger 03-18-2004 01:35 PM

Saddam doesn't have shit and was in no position to threaten even Qatar. Enough said. Go after someone who's got the stuff, Kim Jong for instance.


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