ARS drops BYOT - List Other BYOT programs
 

ARS is dropping every byot site created. We have until the end of March. They are starting a new BYOT program and it will not include Trial sign ups only monthly. This is going to put a damper on my total daily initial sign ups. We have to pay for it because their members area can not retain members.

Please list other programs offering BYOT. Thanks

I hate it when ARS does stuff like that

Whats the diff between BYOT and AVS really?

I know EpicCash has BYOT's.

I was just curious on the dff between the 2 models really?

I have some new sites on the way and will be offering byot to select people who follow the rules and get approval.

areas to be covered

teen
amateur
pornstar
ebony

I stopped promoting ARS long ago and am happy I did :glugglug

What program is this for? Do you have trial option? Do you pay per sign up? How much do you pay per sign up? Rewards points?
I have high quality ebony traffic.

Dam about time I did the same thing! I think they are trying to slide out of the adult market or something. I'm tired of the changes way to often.:mad:

we have byot

With AVS you have to create a members area for your site. With BYOT you only create the tour. With BYOT the program the byot is listed under maintains the members area. I dont know of any AVS programs that will pay out $30-$37 per $2.99 trial sign up. ARS was paying out that much for trials but now they are removing the trial option. I need to find a BYOT program that has trials and also a members area that can retain members. Initially with Pay per sign ups a webmaster should not care about retention but it is important if you want the BYOT program to be successful. Otherwise if their byot program is not retaining they will just close it down or remove trial options like ARS did.

p1mpdogg, yes I am aware of that. Your program is highly recommended by many of my associates. A few questions.

1. Do I have to create a BYOT named after one of your pay sites or can we give the BYOTs what ever name we want? Or would I need to create a tour with HOOD HONEY as the logo if I wanted to promote ebony? Either is fine.

2. I couldnt find any areas in the epiccash admin that listed byot linking codes.

3. Can I buy some content and have it licensed to your company that way you can add it to your ebony zip file and I can use it in the tour? Most of the photos in your ebony zip file are saturated.

I do very well with ARS byots the I created but they removed the trial option and because of it I am looking elsewhere to send my traffic.

either name it after one of our sites, or reg a domain and transfewr it to us

byot sites are listed as regular tours, so nobody knows which is a byot and what isnt except you and the people you tell

you can buy content and license it to us we need the docs

I take it there were too many ppl joining all these BYOTs and surprised they didn't find those Jules Jordan scenes from the tour inside the ARS members areas hahahaha

Ok PERFECT, I will need your business name and address that you want the licenses under. I will email for that. What email address? I own Dutybooty.com, i will have it transferred over. How? Sales are 1:80 on that site for me on average. Not very graphical but it cranks in sales. I can redesign it to look more like my sites http://buttfetish.com , http://thicklife.com , http://gfextreme.com if you want more pretty designs. I can transfer those sites over as well.

Try The Following BYOTs from Epic Cash

Hood Honey 2


Ebony Stallions 4


Amateur Honeypot 5


Indian Roadtrip 4

p1mpdogg can i use content from your free hosted galleries to create tours?

Seriously.

Why don't you people email or ICQ one of the EC people?

:2 cents:

yea lets take it to email or icq please

ICQ 141588569

email [email protected] <-- this works, its an ego thang

I figured the questions might help other webmasters out too who are interested in Epic BYOt program. Your right I guess.

WTF, I guess I have to look for the content producers who have the girls in my BYOT tour and take it into our own program. It never did anything with ARS anyway.

I hate hassles.

Actually we are dropping the BYOT program all together. We'll be releasing a new product and leaving the inferior product behind for 'other' programs to use. Our new product has a new trademarked name and is far superior to what BYOTs are of today.

Also, the program will outconvert the existing BYOT for a few reasons, even without a trial price :) More news of this new program will be posted Feb 23rd (this coming Monday) as well as the release of our brand new product which will simply BLOW away the conversion ratios of most of the sites out there and most definitely out convert the existing ARS portfolio!

You always make me laugh -- that said....

I'd never send an email to that addy.

:1orglaugh

I'm sure people could also email [email protected] as well.

:glugglug

Sounds alot like sour grapes.

Good luck.

haha

you are a sweet man marc

I'm all excited to see this :)
WG

Any way of communicating something to you? ICQ? Email?

Mine are: 92432224

Email: donovan AT donovanphillips.com

I dont see how sales will increase when youll only be offering a monthly sign up option and no trials. UNLESS you have the "1 Hour" free option that allows people access for 1 hour and if they stay longer than they THEN they are charged for a month.

i don't understand...

actually i do, but to me it sounds more like living, earning, learning, innovation, and moving on to bigger and better things. Stale products don't work, maybe they make epic some good coin but why not move on to new things and make way more coin

xster - I believe our new BYOT replacement will sell better because

1.) Much better content for better tours
2.) Access to all the sites in the network
3.) No cross sells (this is a big one)
4.) Not processed by 3rd party billers
5.) Cheaper monthly price than $39.99

Its a natural evolution of the BYOT product and it will sell! :)

Those 3 points alone sound very promising. Especially number 4, your own merchant accounts I imagine?

Let me know when it's out, I'm quite intrigued.
WG

99 cent porn isn't anything new...

does that stand for "buy your own trailer" at epiccash? :)

Dang, not cool !

no dumbass

how is ccbill treating you? :1orglaugh

I made enough from ARS's BYOT 1 program to get a down payment for my first house - that must have been about 1.5 years ago now. That's a lot of traffic and webmaster support that i've built up over that time to get me here and to be still making money off them.

I love ARS, and they still go brilliantly for me, but I can't help but feel ARS dropping these BYOTS without so much of an apology or compensation or whatever to the people who have invested so much time and money into their company that it's a big FUCK YOU from them.

Marc I emailed you twice and harassed you over the ARS BBS, and still never received a reply from you, which you assured me would happen.

I AM slightly bitter, because I convert 1:66 off TGP traffic for my BYOTs, and I seriously doubt any new product would beat that. I stand to lose 600-800US a week from the BYOT $5 frees alone, not to mention my previously linked THOUSANDS of galleries, domains, banners, EVERYTHING linked.

You guys have my support, and sure you have to break eggs to make an omlette, but I kinda wish that you wouldnt pretend that everything is completely rosey; that this puts many people in a difficult money situation, a blow that could have been softened even by a semi personal email.

Simon

I can't understand how that business model didn't work. Letting people offer anything and then giving them the same old shitty members area, how did they have problems converting from trials? :1orglaugh

well said Simon, very well said.

unfortunately you, me, and thousands of others are simply a number.

lil2rich - not in my book. I don't do business with numbers, I do business with webmasters, people, faces, names :) quantum-x has a legitimate beef, I have a legitimate reponse - I have yet to receive a single email.

Now, quantum, in terms of an apology or compensation - have you heard yet what I will do for webmasters who already have BYOTs? The information has yet to be given, the only reason ANYBODY knows now before we release information on Monday was out of MY courtesy to our webmasters.

I'm glad to hear I have your support! I feel I've always done my part to support our WMs and will continue to do so! I am well aware of the investment some WMs have put into making BYOTs... I"m also well aware of the $$ I've sent those who've made that investment! Likewise, I do have a nice offer in return for those contributors.

Again, my email is [email protected] - I use Spam Arrest, you must auth yourself and I'm telling you 100% I have yet to receive an email from you... That said, you have me on ICQ and if you don't 46972932 I'm always available.

Marc,

I do not promote ARS directly, but send my traffic to a program which survives by your BYOT program.

because of this announcement you made he is killing our relationship and i am out for about $4k monthly. Not enough to put me in the hole, but enough for me to be pretty upset about the announcement.

You have obviously been in business longer than me and most likely know the business much better than I do, so i wont question your intent to make things better, or reasoning behind removing the program.

But if their is a better program coming, something that can compete with the BYOT numbers, i beg you to release the msg ASAP.

I think you mentioned monday? Which i guess is soon enough, i just hope my program decides to use this new program of yours, or else i am out for some cash.

thanks for the reply, sorry to sound selfish.

good luck on your new stuff.



lil2rich

Thanks marc, I've emailed you again. I distinctly remember confirming your SpamArrest cos i was playing with the voice read out confirm thing. :winkwink:

Thanks for replying.