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How is the Goth niche doing?
I know goth is a fairly small niche but does it convert well? How are rebills?
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Blood Money does real good! Lots of Goth stuff.
People who like that stuff tend to stick around for the rebills, helps in that it's unique. |
Spent a lot. Haven't recouped a dime.
But it's a fun niche. |
i hear pizza tastes good, hows the sauce?
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"Well Bob, I'ma pone toni. Got my dillies on a peppatain. Sa-da-tay!" |
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blood money rocks !
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Ok, anymore else? Oz |
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So far not worth my time and traffic. has done horribly on targeted traffic. There is not a single Goth site that can close a sale without stealing my traffic. |
Hmm, OK Thanks for the info.
I might still try it and see what happens. slavdogg So you feel that the goth sites just don't have it together as far as converting once the surfer is there? Why do you think that is? Is it just to fake as compared to real life goth? Hmm, this gives me some ideas. Oz |
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its just every goth sponsor out there right now has no tour that will convert traffic. Therefore not worth sending traffic to. I'm still waiting for my Goth friend to put his site up. or someone else that can turn my goth traffic into $$ |
I have quite a few affiliates converting at 1:50-1:250. We are working on new tours, but the ones I have are working pretty nicely.
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I personally enjoy goth content and there's some wonderful goth sites out there, Ian's being prime examples. However goth converts the worst out of all the many niches that I promote at Carnalia.com. I'd love the goth niche to succeed for me because it's a breath of fresh air, but presently I'm not making any money from it :(
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I'm sure Goth does well but not for me. I used hosted Goth galleries on my TGPs they seemed to get higher CTR than any other hosted I ran at the time yet conversion didn't seem to be too good. After doing 0:8,000 I quit.
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I think it comes down to the fact that anything worthwhile isn't easy. If you know how to make goth sites convert, they will really impress you. If not, they won't go anywhere. One problem is that it is hard to promote gothic stuff to people coming from mainstream porn sites.
People looking for goth porn, just like people looking for fine-art erotica or some fetishes, want something real and not something opportunistic. Likewise, people looking for free porn, mainstream porn, etc. don't necessarily react well to goth porn. Many of them haven't heard of it, and many of them just expect something else. So, the trick with goth porn is to get the right traffic, and filter it well. I find that goth-oriented AVS sites work well. The traffic they send, and that some other sites send, converts very well on my sites. If you want to make sure that the traffic converts well for you overall, then make sure you redirect people who don't want real goth porn somewhere else. Then everybody wins. It is my firm belief that the goth niche is growing. As more of us get into it, there will be more content, and more traffic. People will come to understand what it is about, and people who already understand it will finally be able to find sites. My sales have been growing very impressively, and the demand for content is also up. Now is the time to get in on an interesting niche that has so far remained quite small. I am glad I'm one of the leaders, at least in a few small ways. |
AVS traffic converts well for everyone.
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The point of my graph was to show the scale of the growth. I'm not interested in sharing my exact sales numbers with the general public, sorry.
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to ask about rebills is as bland as saying, hows the sauce? one site may do well while the other does not, rebills are unique to every site, just as sauce is unique to various pizza places or a chef's recipe. so again i say, 'i hear pizza is good, hows the sauce.' 'i hear goth is doing good, how are rebills?' do you get it now? :glugglug |
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Sa-da-tay. |
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:1orglaugh Oz |
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Followed by "I know goth is a fairly small niche but does it convert well? How are rebills?" Jeez I don't know what you look for but these are two things I like to know about something before I promote it or them. There is nothing wrong with what I asked. Don't you like to know how something converts and rebills are? Oz |
It can be hard for anyone to know something like how well an entire niche rebills.
Unfortunately, I also can't give a lot of data on my own program. I have offered non-rebilling options, and while people sign up over and over again, it means that the "rebill" stats are skewed. This week, I am trying out new pricing on my larger site, and have removed the non-rebilling option. It is a test, and if it goes well, soon rebills will be up and I will start to get useful numbers on it. As for conversions, it depends entirely on the sources of traffic, like with anything. Overall, I am extremely happy with how my sites are converting. |
Really I guess I should have worded the questions a bit different.
Like how does goth do in general? How well do some of the sponsors convert? If the sponsor does do rebills how, are rebills good? There, that pretty much what I was asking :winkwink: Oz |
In general, goth is hard. If you know what you are doing, especially if you know goth (adult or not) then you will do well. Even people who don't do goth much are converting my sites.
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now you see why i only said.
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Oz |
Pizza with rebills....MMMmmmm.....
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Step 1. :xomunch Step 2. Chargeback Step 3. :throwup |
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It could be a pzzia of the week. Where ever week on the day you say, they bring you a pizza of the week. Membership would be $9.95 to sign up for the trial and is rebilled at $19.95, $29.95 and $39.95 per month depending on the size of the family. Ok the cat's out of the bag. PizzaBucks 50/50 partnership programs. You get: 50% of sign ups 50% of rebills And one free pizza a month Remember we supply you with FullPage PizzaBuck Ads Plus some of the best converting banners in the food industry. PizzaBucks Oz |
i havent ordered a pizza using the phone in over a year.
computers make things so much easier. :glugglug |
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Coming soon for those that like dialers.
Pizza Dialer They will be dialing all the way to your bank! Oz |
I come out of a gothic erotica print publishing background, so I did that niche first. So I'm kinda comparing other niches to that instead of the other way around. I find that SpookyCash.com affiliates with fetish traffic do best with GothicSluts.com and SpookyCash.com affiliates with teen and amateur traffic like BarelyEvil.com We give affiliates credit for both sales if a surfer signs up for one site and then the other as well. We do not duplicate any of our content between sites, so that is a common cross-sell. Is cross-sell the right term for that? A common sell anyway. :)
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