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theking 03-23-2003 10:27 AM

There are to many posts made by the ignorant and America bashers
 
...to respond to and most of the posts are not deserving of a response.

These are the facts.

Like it or not the US is militarily engaged in conflict with Iraqi forces.

The ultimate outcome of this conflict is known. The US forces will take control of Iraq.

As in all wars, there will be death via accident, illness, and KIA.

As in all wars, there will be injuries, and WIA's.

As in all wars, there will be POW's and MIA's.

As in all wars the rules of War as defined by the Geneva convention will be broken by all combatants involved.

There will be propaganda, there will be intentional and unintentional mis-information put out by the conflicting parties, there will intentional and unintentional mis-information put out by the media.

Thus far the US has been taking baby steps but the US has the option to increase the use of force, Iraqi forces do not. I predictated that the US will have control of the country in less than 10 days, and nothing has happened to change my mind.

ZoiNk 03-23-2003 10:29 AM

Fact: This war violates the UN charter.
ZoiNk

mika 03-23-2003 10:29 AM

You don't know much about urban warfare? How will they conquer Bagdad in such a short time? Will take a few years if Bagdad won't surrender

Jakke PNG 03-23-2003 10:32 AM

There will be guerilla warfare in the city.. and a lot of lives lost.. on both sides.

chupacabra 03-23-2003 10:33 AM

Quote:

Fact: This war violates the UN charter.
agreed, and the funniest part is that shrub uses "the violation of UN sanctions" as his main justification to invade..


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You don't know much about urban warfare? How will they conquer Bagdad in such a short time? Will take a few years if Bagdad won't surrender
while not in 10 days, i seriously doubt that the invasion will take years... the iraqis will not be able to withstand an extended siege. i guess all those WMD are still too well-hidden for the iraqis to use against our troops... you would think if they had any they would definitely be using them before they go down..

BRISK 03-23-2003 10:34 AM

Fact: Richard Simmons is gay.

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Fletch XXX 03-23-2003 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZoiNk
Fact: This war violates the UN charter.
ZoiNk

Fact: Saddam has violated it more.

BRISK 03-23-2003 10:37 AM

Fact: Redheads are horny.

CDSmith 03-23-2003 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZoiNk
Fact: This war violates the UN charter.
Fact: The UN can go suck an egg.


If the UN lacks the balls to enforce it's own sanctions then that's the way it is.

Theo 03-23-2003 10:38 AM

theking 03-17-2003 02:25 AM

"Our forces will have control of the country in less than 10 days. There will not be the prolonged bombing campaign that took place during the first Gulf War."

:-)

CDSmith 03-23-2003 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by mika
Will take a few years if Bagdad won't surrender
Thank you -- General Mika.

Theo 03-23-2003 10:39 AM

General Mika LOL

nocostporn 03-23-2003 10:40 AM

most of them are Canadian...you'd think the first people in line to give a U.S. blowjob would be Canadians

fuckin jewbies

Kick Ass Chat 03-23-2003 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
You don't know much about urban warfare? How will they conquer Bagdad in such a short time? Will take a few years if Bagdad won't surrender
Actually it's taking to much time because we are being to concerned about the innocent people. We should just get on with it already and waste the whole fricken place already, Bagdad be gone.....:ak47:

KRL 03-23-2003 10:41 AM

This war will get uglier before it gets prettier. I wouldn't be surprised if the tactical nukes come into play soon on Baghdad.

The Pentagon knows they don't have much time to get the job done with this war politically. If it gets bogged down, they'll go nuclear to turn the tide.

This is going to get harder and harder to watch on TV.

What's up with the "embedded" term. Sick of hearing that.

foreverjason 03-23-2003 10:42 AM

Quote:

Fact: This war violates the UN charter.
No it hasnt. Read up on the resolutions formed after the Gulf War. The Iraqis have violated it so much, the americans can use many points to justify a war.

Obviously you dont read up on your UN history.

Who says its illegal, hypocritical france, germany, russia and china?

theking 03-23-2003 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
You don't know much about urban warfare? How will they conquer Bagdad in such a short time? Will take a few years if Bagdad won't surrender
Wrong, on all counts. There will not be any urban warfare fought in the manner that you apparently visualize.

chupacabra 03-23-2003 10:44 AM

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The Iraqis have violated it so much, the americans can use many points to justify a war.
there isn't much room for american to use anything relating to the UN as an excuse for invasion, shrub has rendered UN opinion 'irrelevant'... dangerous precendent for the rest of the world (china)..

Theo 03-23-2003 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
it gets bogged down, they'll go nuclear to turn the tide.

forget this scenario.

seven 03-23-2003 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
most of them are Canadian...you'd think the first people in line to give a U.S. blowjob would be Canadians

fuckin jewbies

ehm.. no think a buncha Canadians actually support morons like you :(

jimmyf 03-23-2003 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
...to respond to and most of the posts are not deserving of a response.

These are the facts.

Like it or not the US is militarily engaged in conflict with Iraqi forces.

The ultimate outcome of this conflict is known. The US forces will take control of Iraq.

As in all wars, there will be death via accident, illness, and KIA.

As in all wars, there will be injuries, and WIA's.

As in all wars, there will be POW's and MIA's.

As in all wars the rules of War as defined by the Geneva convention will be broken by all combatants involved.

There will be propaganda, there will be intentional and unintentional mis-information put out by the conflicting parties, there will intentional and unintentional mis-information put out by the media.

Thus far the US has been taking baby steps but the US has the option to increase the use of force, Iraqi forces do not. I predictated that the US will have control of the country in less than 10 days, and nothing has happened to change my mind.

A lot of people on this board do not have a clue. They think they do.
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This is so very true.


Thus far the US has been taking baby steps but the US has the option to increase the use of force, Iraqi forces do not.
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And the Iraq leaders I believe don't have a clue or are still scared shitless of Saddam, which is most likely it. Can't really blame them.

nocostporn 03-23-2003 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by seven

ehm.. no think a buncha Canadians actually support morons like you :(


why am I a moron and how are Canadians supporting me? and with what?

ZoiNk 03-23-2003 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foreverjason


No it hasnt. Read up on the resolutions formed after the Gulf War. The Iraqis have violated it so much, the americans can use many points to justify a war.

Obviously you dont read up on your UN history.

Who says its illegal, hypocritical france, germany, russia and china?

There are only *3* reasons under UN rules for invading another countries soil.

A) Approval by then UN Security council
B) Mass Genocide
C) Self Defence after you have been invaded.
ZoiNk

jimmyf 03-23-2003 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


Wrong, on all counts. There will not be any urban warfare fought in the manner that you apparently visualize.

:thumbsup Very true. Said it before on this board.

mika 03-23-2003 10:51 AM

Well. how will they conquer Bagdad? you tell me, dear American Genarals?

theking 03-23-2003 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZoiNk


There are only *3* reasons under UN rules for invading another countries soil.

A) Approval by then UN Security council
B) Mass Genocide
C) Self Defence after you have been invaded.
ZoiNk

And the UN gave their approval in at least 3 resolutions the last of which was 1441, but the legal eagles, will debate this untill hell freezes over.

seven 03-23-2003 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
why am I a moron and how are Canadians supporting me? and with what?
With machine guns silly :1orglaugh

theking 03-23-2003 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
Well. how will they conquer Bagdad? you tell me, dear American Genarals?
If it comes to having to take Baghdad via "urban warfare" the Infantry will not be on point. Our various gunships and other weapons platforms, will be on point. I personally think that any "urban warfare" will be limited, if any takes place.

CDSmith 03-23-2003 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
Thus far the US has been taking baby steps but the US has the option to increase the use of force, Iraqi forces do not.
Yes, it seems that fact is escaping the critics. Then again I'm not surprised...... the critics on this board seem a bit long on opinion and short on sense.


Fact is, U.S. forces are halting and backing off when they encounter Iraqi resistance. They first do what they can to encourage the Iraqi's to surrender peacefully. Up until now the U.S. forces have shown a lot of restraint as far as I'm concerned, but that's all about to end quick if they keep obeying Saddam's orders and causing U.S. casualties to mount.


They're about to find out what the full capabily of "technology" is.

mika 03-23-2003 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


If it comes to having to take Baghdad via "urban warfare" the Infantry will not be on point. Our various gunships and other weapons platforms, will be on point. I personally think that any "urban warfare" will be limited, if any takes place.

There's a good chance there will be no urban warfare, like you said

And in that case, the only option is that bagdad surrenders, that I said. But if it didn't, it would take years

CDSmith 03-23-2003 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
Well. how will they conquer Bagdad? you tell me, dear American Genarals?
The real American Generals know, and I don't think they are going to be telling you fuck all mika. Why not relax, sit back, shut the fuck up, and watch how they do it?

mmkay?

seven 03-23-2003 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
And the UN gave their approval in at least 3 resolutions the last of which was 1441
I believe 1441 wouldn't have passed if there was a deadline in it otherwise, U.S. would probably include a deadline to avoid any future conflicts already. Very smart! :thumbsup

theking 03-23-2003 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika


There's a good chance there will be no urban warfare, like you said

And in that case, the only option is that bagdad surrenders, that I said. But if it didn't, it would take years

Right and then wrong. You did not pay attention.

theking 03-23-2003 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by seven

I believe 1441 wouldn't have passed if there was a deadline in it otherwise, U.S. would probably include a deadline to avoid any future conflicts already. Very smart! :thumbsup

Exactly. The phrase "serious consequences" in 1441 is a CYA phrase.

vending_machine 03-23-2003 11:05 AM

Whassup Pathfinder.

jimmyf 03-23-2003 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking


Right and then wrong. You did not pay attention.

Mean you can't tell he/she is very selective.:1orglaugh reading, and see.

seven 03-23-2003 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
You don't know much about urban warfare? How will they conquer Bagdad in such a short time? Will take a few years if Bagdad won't surrender
First, I don't support Bush's war just like you but comon man why the hell would you think it'd take years? It would take years if it was Vietnam with lots of patriot civillians fighting guerilla style against U.S. but Iraqis are no patriots I hope you realize that? Try to be a little more realistic. We like the war or not, we like U.S. aggression/occupation of Iraq or not U.S. will win this war indefinitely.

mika 03-23-2003 11:14 AM

We'll see guys. we'll see.

And remember I said IF Bagdad won't surrender, it will take years

I think it's possible that it will surrender

Theking, helicopters cannot invade towns
CD, If you don't have any view on that matter, then you stfu . I dont need to listen how great the American real generals are supposed to be. Some veterans, for example, were highly against the war

seven 03-23-2003 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
Exactly. The phrase "serious consequences" in 1441 is a CYA phrase.
is what Bush admin says now laughing 'hey we tricked ya morons!' :1orglaugh

G Sharp 03-23-2003 11:18 AM

Theking, you obviously confuse love of country with love of the current government that runs that country. There is a distinction here. Even in wartime, from the beginning of American history, dissent is what separates our country from many of the other countries out there.

Wrapping your dick in a flag does not make you a patriot.... Caring enough about your country to thoroughly analyze its actions does.:2 cents:


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