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flashfreak 03-26-2003 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Theking: you really need to bump your own threads twice?

USA runs for the oil, he runs for the DVD :Graucho

flashfreak 03-26-2003 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
I heard Israel violated UN resolutions also Does that mean we have to go to war with them too? I hope not.
indeed... USA will give Israel 10 billion greens as war damages... here's your tax money.. be proud of your government :1orglaugh

theking 03-26-2003 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by mika


there's a little psychological slip in your post. I could blame Bush just like you blame Saddam. Notice that these are persons. You haven't said you blame Iraqi people. Have I said I blame American people? I blame Bush and American government that went to war WAAYY too easily. Are you taking it a bit personally?

You blame Bush and Congress but not the American people. The American people, depending upon which poll one wants to use, backed Bush and our government by up to 71% in favor of the war. One poll today showed that since the beginning of the war 67% are in favor of the war.

Tuga 03-26-2003 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Some of you might not have seen this yet. It's unconfirmed, but it came to me in an email..........


<b>Subject: C. Powell Quote</b>

"When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush.

He answered by saying that, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders.

The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."

It became very quiet in the room."



Gotta love the quick mind of that Colin Powell. :thumbsup

It's not the land they want...

mika 03-26-2003 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
If you say so.

And WAYYYYY too easily? 12 years? LOL. It's not like he agreed to disarm on Tuesday and the US attacked him Wed at 1a. LOL

It is still true that most of the world opposes this war and you cannot refute that. You shouldn't also think that most of the world opposes the war because they love Saddam and would not like to see him getting disarmed. USA not working together with UN thus took law in their own hands. Nothing refutes that, either. Of course, I understand that you as an American would hate to see America start an unjustified war and it probably explains your stickittoiveness

Given other president than Bush and we might not necessarily have any wars now.

I hope it'll end soon anyway.

Spunky 03-26-2003 03:30 PM

Who Says Canada doesnt support the US?...I wear mine proudly :)
http://www.iraqtshirts.com/images/support_full.gif

mika 03-26-2003 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by theking


You blame Bush and Congress but not the American people. The American people, depending upon which poll one wants to use, backed Bush and our government by up to 71% in favor of the war. One poll today showed that since the beginning of the war 67% are in favor of the war.

I read that it has been studied that people favor war the most RIGHT after the war starts. Of course people like to support the war their country is in. I cannot search for that article now unless you really insist. But i think we can conclude that result even with some common sense

You will see the support start dropping if we face a longer war and more casualties.

Masses of people are alike everywhere, so if I criticize the way human masses are backing up the decisions of their Great Leaders, then that is not directed to specifically Americans, but to the way our human brain works

Centurion 03-26-2003 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by theking


You blame Bush and Congress but not the American people. The American people, depending upon which poll one wants to use, backed Bush and our government by up to 71% in favor of the war. One poll today showed that since the beginning of the war 67% are in favor of the war.

I HATE polls! But if you are going to play the numbers game, just saw on CNN, THEIR poll says there has been a slippage since last friday when 53% said the war was going well (what the american people thought), and now it's down to 39%!

ServerGenius 03-26-2003 03:35 PM

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I hope it'll end soon anyway.
Amen and I do geniunly hope that the amount of casualties
will remain as low as possible and that the all the men and
women of the allied forces may return safely.

Those people overthere must be going through hell just like the
Iraqi civilians. They are brave enough to no matter what do their
jobs and how silly it may sound I DO RESPECT THAT

DynaMite :2 cents:

theking 03-26-2003 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by mika


It is still true that most of the world opposes this war and you cannot refute that. You shouldn't also think that most of the world opposes the war because they love Saddam and would not like to see him getting disarmed. USA not working together with UN thus took law in their own hands. Nothing refutes that, either. Of course, I understand that you as an American would hate to see America start an unjustified war and it probably explains your stickittoiveness

Given other president than Bush and we might not necessarily have any wars now.

I hope it'll end soon anyway.

Every single President since the Second World War has engaged our military and I highly suspect that every single future President will do the same.

mika 03-26-2003 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Every single President since the Second World War has engaged our military and I highly suspect that every single future President will do the same.

I guess I'll just have to live with that then

USA is always in war no matter what?

theking 03-26-2003 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


I HATE polls! But if you are going to play the numbers game, just saw on CNN, THEIR poll says there has been a slippage since last friday when 53% said the war was going well (what the american people thought), and now it's down to 39%!

The problem with polls is that they can be, and are, manipulated and I am sure that there are other polls with different numbers. I don't have confidence in the numbers used by any poll. As the conflict continues whatever the numbers are the percentage will continue to drop. Happens in every conflict.

FATPad 03-26-2003 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by mika

Of course, I understand that you as an American would hate to see America start an unjustified war and it probably explains your stickittoiveness

Or I could just think Bush is right this time. That would explain my "stickittoiveness", too.

You may not believe this, and I don't care if you do or not, but I don't support every single thing the US does. This time, I happen to. *shrugs*

mika 03-26-2003 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by theking

As the conflict continues whatever the numbers are the percentage will continue to drop. Happens in every conflict.

Huh, fuck so you knew it.. ?

Still you tried to use some poll numbers for purpose of trying to make me look like I hated American people

:(

rossiya2 03-26-2003 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith

They're about to find out what the full capabily of "technology" is.

Problem with technology is that it wants to reproduce. Gaurding it is like monitoring all the holes in a sponge inside and out. Key components are already made in the former 'Asian Tiger' belt.

The foreign nationals now being harassed and expelled for studying and researching here are welcomed back home. The U.S. technology edge is a bubble which may implode as the brightest minds go home. Foreign armies may lack the most advanced weapons but when they place an order they want the latest thing too if it hasn't been pushed on them already.

Hopefully future U.S. presidents can ameriorate world anger. When the playing field levels that will become a vital skill which this administration sorely lacks.

directfiesta 03-26-2003 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Every single President since the Second World War has engaged our military and I highly suspect that every single future President will do the same.

The US is a belligerant country . From the time of Western to today, and sadely in the future too. They kill themselves in cities, so why not kill less valued humans abroad....

Go GIJoe, GO!

http://www.ibillsucks.info/files/gijoedune.jpg

The only thing upsetting is that they always rap it up under a freedom-religious bullshit cover....

mika 03-26-2003 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad

You may not believe this, and I don't care if you do or not, but I don't support every single thing the US does. This time, I happen to. *shrugs*

And when you DO NOT support some decision that the goverment made, but some other people do, because they have a different view than you, do you then blame and/or hate those people or the goverment?

If you're implying I'm acting that way, doesn't it really seem a bit absurd now?

CDSmith 03-26-2003 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by Tuga
It's not the land they want...
Well don't keep me in suspence einstein. You gonna trot out the already-shot-to-pieces "it's all about oil" argument?


Let's hear it for the umpteenth time :1orglaugh

Trolleater 03-26-2003 03:53 PM

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There are to many posts made by the ignorant and America bashers

you're the most ignorant country in the world...shut up...and take it.

theking 03-26-2003 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by mika


Huh, fuck so you knew it.. ?

Still you tried to use some poll numbers for purpose of trying to make me look like I hated American people

:(

No matter what the poll numbers are. All polls show that the majority of Americans approve of this conflict. It is just that different polls have different percentages. I will repeat that the percentages will drop as the war proceeds.

MrPopup 03-26-2003 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by theking
...to respond to and most of the posts are not deserving of a response.

These are the facts.

Like it or not the US is militarily engaged in conflict with Iraqi forces.

The ultimate outcome of this conflict is known. The US forces will take control of Iraq.

As in all wars, there will be death via accident, illness, and KIA.

As in all wars, there will be injuries, and WIA's.

As in all wars, there will be POW's and MIA's.

As in all wars the rules of War as defined by the Geneva convention will be broken by all combatants involved.

There will be propaganda, there will be intentional and unintentional mis-information put out by the conflicting parties, there will intentional and unintentional mis-information put out by the media.

Thus far the US has been taking baby steps but the US has the option to increase the use of force, Iraqi forces do not. I predictated that the US will have control of the country in less than 10 days, and nothing has happened to change my mind.

some of this is accurate but you're still a dink.

nuclei 03-26-2003 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by chupacabra


there isn't much room for american to use anything relating to the UN as an excuse for invasion, shrub has rendered UN opinion 'irrelevant'... dangerous precendent for the rest of the world (china)..

You seem to be missing one fundamental point. The first war with iraq has not ended. It was put into a ceasefire mode while saddam had time to comply with UN regulations, which he did not. Now it is back in war mode.

right or wrongas this war may be, at least get the facts straight.

mika 03-26-2003 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by theking


No matter what the poll numbers are. All polls show that the majority of Americans approve of this conflict. It is just that different polls have different percentages. I will repeat that the percentages will drop as the war proceeds.

Just straight out then...

Are you saying that I hate American people because I oppose the war?
Yes or No

rossiya2 03-26-2003 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by DynaSpain


Yes Saddam is a brutal dictator but the 12 years of sanctions
have not added to the situation aswell. There was never any
real to handle the situation.....so why on earth all the rush now?

DynaMite :2 cents:

Because the economy hasn't been so bad in 12 years.

CosmicKitten 03-26-2003 03:57 PM

This war is excellent practice for the next country we are going to invade and take control of. :winkwink:

Trolleater 03-26-2003 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by theking


No matter what the poll numbers are. All polls show that the majority of Americans approve of this conflict. It is just that different polls have different percentages. I will repeat that the percentages will drop as the war proceeds.

man shut the fuck up...how many of those polls have you participated in...none, and how many people do you know that have....none....hmmm wonder why that is?

Polls sway however the government wants them to....they're bullshit.

Show me facts on "real americans" taking these polls.

Tuga 03-26-2003 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Well don't keep me in suspence einstein. You gonna trot out the already-shot-to-pieces "it's all about oil" argument?


Let's hear it for the umpteenth time :1orglaugh

Maybe... just MAYBE... that's why I didnt have to say it. If even you guessed it, there's no need to repeat it.

CDSmith 03-26-2003 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by rossiya2
Problem with technology is that it wants to reproduce. Gaurding it is like monitoring all the holes in a sponge inside and out. Key components are already made in the former 'Asian Tiger' belt.

The foreign nationals now being harassed and expelled for studying and researching here are welcomed back home. The U.S. technology edge is a bubble which may implode as the brightest minds go home. Foreign armies may lack the most advanced weapons but when they place an order they want the latest thing too if it hasn't been pushed on them already.

Hopefully future U.S. presidents can <font color="Yellow"><b><i>ameriorate</i></b></font> world anger. When the playing field levels that will become a vital skill which this administration sorely lacks.

The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the Dictionary search box to the right.

Suggestions for ameriorate:
1. ameliorate
2. emerita
3. ameliorates
4. amaretti
5. admirari
6. Amritsar
7. eremuri
8. Amravati
9. ameliorator
10. Admiralty



Which is the word you were attempting to use?

Trolleater 03-26-2003 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by CosmicKitten
This war is excellent practice for the next country we are going to invade and take control of. :winkwink:

you stupid americans have no idea what you're getting involved with. The world's getting tired of you.

Centurion 03-26-2003 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


The US is a belligerant country . From the time of Western to today, and sadely in the future too. They kill themselves in cities, so why not kill less valued humans abroad....

Go GIJoe, GO!

http://www.ibillsucks.info/files/gijoedune.jpg

The only thing upsetting is that they always rap it up under a freedom-religious bullshit cover....

Please do NOT make out ALL Americans to be this way.
Quite frankly, even though the Prez has a large poll ranking right now, his support IS soft. And it WAS soft before the war started. But it's very human natured to rally around the boys when a war does start.

Offiically:I'm against the war, but I do support the troops and want them to finish their objective quickly and with the least amount of loss of life & limb to both sides.

Plus, please stop generalizing ALL American history. Our history, as well as yours and other nations' is VERY varied.

directfiesta 03-26-2003 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Well don't keep me in suspence einstein. You gonna trot out the already-shot-to-pieces "it's all about oil" argument?


Let's hear it for the umpteenth time :1orglaugh

http://www.ibillsucks.info/files/oil_iraq.jpg

????

CosmicKitten 03-26-2003 04:01 PM

keep dreaming sucker.

one day you too will assimilate.

Sly_RJ 03-26-2003 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


I HATE polls! But if you are going to play the numbers game, just saw on CNN, THEIR poll says there has been a slippage since last friday when 53% said the war was going well (what the american people thought), and now it's down to 39%!

I just saw the same poll. You might want to check your interpretation.

The polls on Monday said that 39% of the people polled thought the invasion was going good. That has nothing to do with support.

I don't think things are going the greatest, but I do pledge full support. The militia is stronger and more willing to die than first expected. That throws a few kinks in the chain, but they will get things straightened out.

Hell, I swear they've been 50 miles to Baghdad since Monday. I would assume the halt is for various reasons: a) storms, b) supply lines need more strength, c) the South needs more stability before pressing on and risking an assault from the various soldiers, and d) new strategies are being thought out to avoid mass civilian casualties.

But what do I know...

theking 03-26-2003 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Trolleater


man shut the fuck up...how many of those polls have you participated in...none, and how many people do you know that have....none....hmmm wonder why that is?

Polls sway however the government wants them to....they're bullshit.

Show me facts on "real americans" taking these polls.

The polls are taken by private enterprise.

Trolleater 03-26-2003 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the Dictionary search box to the right.

Suggestions for ameriorate:
1. ameliorate
2. emerita
3. ameliorates
4. amaretti
5. admirari
6. Amritsar
7. eremuri
8. Amravati
9. ameliorator
10. Admiralty



Which is the word you were attempting to use?

Dude...he's American....leave him alone. :thumbsup

CDSmith 03-26-2003 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by Tuga
Maybe... just MAYBE... that's why I didnt have to say it. If even you guessed it, there's no need to repeat it.
There's no need to repeat it because it's been dealt with and been blown out of the water from every angle already. The "oil" threads really aren't that hard to locate are they?


I "guessed it" because some people are very predictable.

Trolleater 03-26-2003 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by theking


The polls are taken by private enterprise.

Like I was saying...shut the fuck up.

Carrie 03-26-2003 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by ZoiNk
Fact: This war violates the UN charter.
ZoiNk

WRONG.
Refer to UN Resolution #678, which gives the US and her allies full permission to go into Iraq and use whatever force necessary to rid the country of weapons which violate the UN sanctions placed upon Iraq.
Refer to UN Resolution 687 which gives us continued permission to go into Iraq and continue to use whatever force necessary to keep the country free of weapons which violate the UN sanctions placed upon Iraq.

RESEARCH things - do not just parrot what the stupid French (who have no military intelligence to speak of and who have convenient memories when it comes to things that will disrupt their nice mafia-style "arrangements" with Iraq) have told you.

mika 03-26-2003 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Hell, I swear they've been 50 miles to Baghdad since Monday. I would assume the halt is for various reasons: a) storms, b) supply lines need more strength, c) the South needs more stability before pressing on and risking an assault from the various soldiers, and d) new strategies are being thought out to avoid mass civilian casualties.

But what do I know...

Just curious

do you think
e) Iraqis are fightling like madman and stay loyal to Saddam

can not really be one of the reasons?

Trolleater 03-26-2003 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Carrie


WRONG.
Refer to UN Resolution #678, which gives the US and her allies full permission to go into Iraq and use whatever force necessary to rid the country of weapons which violate the UN sanctions placed upon Iraq.
Refer to UN Resolution 687 which gives us continued permission to go into Iraq and continue to use whatever force necessary to keep the country free of weapons which violate the UN sanctions placed upon Iraq.

RESEARCH things - do not just parrot what the stupid French (who have no military intelligence to speak of and who have convenient memories when it comes to things that will disrupt their nice mafia-style "arrangements" with Iraq) have told you.

"stupid French"


Do you see the French trying to start a World War....go back to sleep.


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