Game of Thrones.....fuck!
 

A shit pile of death and destruction......tonight.:disgust

Can't say I was expecting that ending.

I betting next week's season finale is going to be awesome.

That was some treacherous shit right there.

Having read all the books...I knew it was coming.

But the problem that the whole series is going to face is that the writer really jumps the shark as far as having any kind of focus.

What started off as a really good story of a "Game Of Thrones" ends up being a meandering tale with a dozen storylines in far-off places that are almost impossible to follow.

By the time I read the last book...almost every character that started the first book was either dead or impossibly embroiled thousands of miles away.

The whole idea of a war for the "Throne" is entirely gone and is replaced with a bunch of stupid storylines that go nowhere.

I'm thinking that the writer really needs to pull everything back together in the next book or else the whole thing is gonna crash down under it's own weight.

Just watched it myself, and totally didn't see it coming at all. Not until that music started playing, and Catelyn was like oh fuk....

Sometimes I feel like there needs to be a Game of Thrones series for each storyline.

I am sure that he will be devasted beyond words that you are not impressed Robbie.

i will check it right now

Fucking great series, no one is safe.

They left out a lot of the subtext. All the traditional reasons why it was not only treacherous but also a wrongful killing in many other ways. Thousands of years of tradition that no one should shed blood at a wedding, an absolute prohibition on harming anyone once they have eaten bread and salt in your castle. All the kinds of things that let warring people send delegations to make peace. Fray broke all of them, ruined his family name beyond this war and made it so no Fray will ever be trusted by anyone, no matter which side they are on now. Also the fact Rob was losing support as with Karstark, and now has been martyred by Fray was left much more vague than in the books.

The stuff with Osha and Bran is better on television than it was in the books, but the red wedding had so much more depth and power in the books than the television show could communicate.

Fuck you book writer, you mostly left evil people "rule" and "good" people die, what the fuck is wrong with you, what should i watch now for god sake? Kill them all now fucker, you are such dickhead and your parents probably bitchslap you as a kid

There are more than a couple of authors who have commented on how after Storm of Swords (the current season on HBO) That George RR Martin only kept writing because his fans demanded it. You can really tell now that he doesnt give a shit about the series in his books. I also think he made it too complicated for himself which is part of the reason why it takes him forever to write. Its too bad really because the first 3 books were so epic. The latest book A Dance with Dragons was very hard to finish and while there were some good parts in it. You nailed it, most of it was just shit dragging on and not going anywhere.

There are 2 remaining books in this series and I am hoping they are done by 2030.

Really? Who do you see as the 'good people' and the 'evil people' in the story. You'll have a very hard time thinking of anyone in the books who is all good or all bad. Bolton's bastard is pretty evil all around for the sake of being evil. The rest have reasons for their actions or reasons for their twisted nature. As for being purely good, can you think of anyone in the books who would be purely good?

The bigger problem is expectations. He wrote the first few books in complete obscurity with no pressure to deliver. Now, if his next book isn't the most well-received piece of literature since The Bible it will be called a failure. He is in an unwinnable situation where his own success has become too high a bar for him to be measured against. People don't want a B+ or even an A+ from him... they want the best book that they have ever read, and then the next one has to be better than that.

I wish him luck... and I'll be reading them all, if he ever finishes them.

Ok who do you find more evil?

Not to worry, he has not even started that book that runs parallel to the last one you read.

But he was nice enough to write one called " The Musings if Tyron Lanaster" or something like that.

To quote Obie Wan - you will find a great deal of what you hold true will depend upon your point of view, Every house in GOT believes they are doing the right thing, well except maybe Geoffrey the little inbred mental case.

That seems to piss a lot of fans off for some reason.

Speaking of no one being safe, and tying loose ends together, etc.... just wait until Arya Stark gets a little older and completes the training she started in S1.

Oh just you folks wait.

Exactly...

Even Geoffrey thinks he is doing what's right... he just happens to be a sniveling warped douche bag - which makes sense when you consider his mother, the fact he is inbred and that he has never had to work for anything in his life... :2 cents:

I like how they killed of the most liberal group first :D

Everyone was killed, but one of them will come back and it's gonna be pissed.

I think it will be put on the Lanasters, given when the king of the north was stabbed , the attacker said that's where it came from.
Going back on an oath of marriage was a big thing too

Give it a bit...in the books, the war between the Lanisters and the Starks isn't even the focus anymore. Hell, there's hardly any of them left.

That's the frustration of the books...the whole thing started off with the King being best friends with Ned Stark and needing his help and was a pretty good setup and storyline with all the intrigue and incest, etc.

But in the books...that storyline was for NOTHING. None of it meant anything. And the "war" meant nothing. And most of the characters that he gets you invested in...mean nothing.

I'm not even sure that he has any idea in his mind where this whole story is going to go.

He's like a writer with ADD. lol

i want to see that dragon bitch go down :disgust :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If they kill off that midget I'll be pissed.

Well, I haven't read the books and I didn't know it was coming and it was very much a 'woah!' episode for me. Also, Michelle Fairley was consistently amazing as an actress on the show right up until the end.

The same is true of all human history.

At the end of WWII Hitler dies. Anyone 'watching events as if he was the protagonist' would be left to wonder wtf, this story isn't even about the Nazis, Germany, Hitler or the 3rd Reich at all... Similarly, there were people who thought the Medici family was the most important of all time... 'hardly any of them are left anymore and their squabbles which all seemed so important aren't even the focus of the story at all now.'

Martin has managed to craft a series of books without a protagonist. The story is not about any character, family, or particular battle. The fact that you assume Ned Stark is the protagonist, or that any one war is the most significant, doesn't change that. It is a history of a world and history is never as clean or perfectly wrapped up as one might want it to be. Humans have a very hard time accepting that their own small keyhole point of view is not the universal perspective. :2 cents:

If you read the books and didn't see the "red wedding" comming, or think that's the end for some, go back and re read the books =)

get a giant ass cookie :2 cents:

Don't kill the midget!!!
Don't kill dragon lady!!!



I don't really care if the rest of the characters get killed...I mean.. the midget and the dragons alone are worth watching if the rest is already dead, of course it would be a little boring, but watchable...

I have read the books too and have exactly the same feelings about that - longer you read more you r dissapointed :2 cents:

Spoiler: She isn't "done" yet.

my jaw dropped for sure last night. at this point i don't want to know what happens in the books because it would spoil my shock watching the show. hard to get attached to characters when no one is safe though.

Defo unexpected. Motherfooking Medieval ages, blood buth, fuck you fookin fook!

fuck you prick :mad:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh i kind of like the no safe zone stuff

Take it easy. :1orglaugh

I haven't told you HOW she isn't "done" yet. That's what will surprise you.

But the way the writing has gone in the last book...none of it will matter anyway. lol

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