The show is clearly for adults. Anyone watching it knows that. The lesson to learn is don't break your oath because when you break your oath you give other people the idea that they can break their oath to you. Honestly that is a great lesson for anyone 15-18 to learn. ;)

I was Shocked For Two days after watching the End...Most terrible end to story i had ever saw.....

Great scene, actually. Shocking, edgy, vicious and mindblowing. The series has strayed from the book often enough, it's nice to see HBO staying true to it where it counts. The fact is in medieval times there was no editing commitee, but there was a lot of chopping and hacking going on. During wartime things got bloody, and a lot of innocents, even children and expecting mothers, died by the sword along with the men. As much as I found it unsettling I applaud HBO's unwavering efforts to strive for realism.

This is not a 'mainstream' TV show. It isn't Disney. It's HBO.

I don't remember the last time people were talking about a scene from a tv show so collectively. Even more interesting since it is a cable show. There isn't much collective memory tv wise anymore because of DVRs, streaming and a ton of channels. They did a great job.

The wheelchair bell bomb on breaking bad was probably the last time a scene got this much attention

Yup..which was insanely good. Ah, can't wait for that to start again.

I heard when George R R Martin was a kid he had turtles and they died frequently. He would make up elaborate stories of conspiracy and betrayal to explain their deaths and I guess that's what we see in ASOIAF.

It seems the whole point of the books is there isn't any magical force that will reward you for being good or punish you for being evil, you have to make the right decisions to survive, period, and sometimes that isn't enough. (just like in real life)

Also if there is a main character it's Danaerys or however you spell it. She is the rightful heir and I am guessing that John Snow is a relative of hers somehow and not actually a Stark at all. I think they will end up together at some point and once those ice creatures come south and start fucking shit up her dragons will be the only hope.

She's lying. I attempted to flirt with her, several times. :winkwink:

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The main theory is that Jon Snow is actually the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Ned Stark's sister, Lyanna (sp). It kinda makes sense. Ned was too honorable to cheat on his wife. His sister made him "promise" something, and that promise was likely not telling anyone that Jon Snow is Rhaegar's son (as he would have been killed when Robert conquered the Targaryens). Lot of evidence that Rhaegar and Lyanna were in love (Rhaegar "kidnapping" her basically started the war).

Snow could marry Danaerys as cousins (which is ok in Targaryan culture). But I'm thinking Snow just wins the throne outright, or he decides to stay at the Nights Watch to let his cousin rule.

God I'm a geek lol.

The more that I think about it - especially in light of all of the writers who post above gnashing their teeth about plot issues, parsing the plot out like was taught in high school and looking for protaganists and the like - the more that I'm impelled to the conclusion that this series really isn't about plot at all and does not really have any protagonist. If you go searching for those things, you will be certainly disappointed.

If plot and protagonist mattered as much here as it usually does in literature, the story would have largely ended with the death of Ned Stark. It did not end. It marched on to other conflicts, other issues, and other players. Some of those have ended too, and some other key players have died, but the series keeps going on to tell other stories.

Game of Thrones is unlike an ordinary novel. The point of watching it or reading the series is to get immersed in this alternate world that operates with different laws and different realities. If you like those things, and the experience of being soaked in that world, you keep watching and you keep reading. What looks like plot is just a passing parade of ambient opportunities to more fully explain this alternate world and how it works. Game of Thrones is not a novel, it is a cycle - and no particular plotline is critical to the ultimate story it tells of a fantasy world.

IMHO the stage and the sets and the props are the story and the story has become a prop and settings to better enjoy the theater.

Only 2 months to go :pimp

I like that nobody is safe. I like the fact that I didn't like what happened in the last show. Its different. Very different. But pretty good.


There are enough shows that I like and go the way I like them to go. Fuck it!! Kill them all!!



Just dave

IMHO I agree mostly, it is the iron throne which is the main character and the only safe one

Im in awe, its such a gift to be able to sit and create a world like that and fill it with people and creatures. Im reading the first book and it reads so well.

So isn't that is why they let writer have free reign? Meaning writer can change things that makes great book, but would not make good movie.

episode=serie in certain (many) languages, so I am pretty sure he meant that.