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cambaby 08-24-2010 09:31 AM

Revshare is a joke now
 
Ive watched these retention rates on some of your programs PLUMMET. Have you guys really given up? :upsidedow:upsidedow

IllTestYourGirls 08-24-2010 09:36 AM

Yup without a doubt. Some of my best ones have dried up big time. Im glad I have a mix of revshare and pps sponsors.

Agent 488 08-24-2010 09:38 AM

been like that since last year. pps for life.

StinkyPink 08-24-2010 09:57 AM

Probably why these programs are all going down. I have noticed my rebills are almost non existant. sucks for sure.

sexdatesj 08-24-2010 11:29 AM

PPS sites are dropping faster then those RevShare rebills!

Bryan G 08-24-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17438020)
been like that since last year. pps for life.

PPS is a dying breed as well.

Agent 488 08-24-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 17438406)
PPS is a dying breed as well.

still plenty around.

dirtybaker1331 08-24-2010 11:42 AM

It really depends on what sponsors you are promoting. Some are good for PPS and some for Rev. If you promote us for example I would recommend rev share. A lot of affiliates need that quick cash though to pay for hosting and whatever else. Rev Share is great for programs that have constant updates.

plsureking 08-24-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtybaker1331 (Post 17438450)
It really depends on what sponsors you are promoting..

ya 2 that.

as far as marketing goes, adult is the fastest running water you'll ever step in. if your sales start sucking then you hit a rock in the river. find a way back into the market stream.

a lot of sites made money in the recession. guys will always need porn.

spazlabz 08-24-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 17438474)
ya 2 that.

as far as marketing goes, adult is the fastest running water you'll ever step in. if your sales start sucking then you hit a rock in the river. find a way back into the market stream.

a lot of sites made money in the recession. guys will always need porn.

:thumbsup:thumbsup
what you said

Barefootsies 08-24-2010 11:51 AM

Actually, there is a reason why your rebills have died and it has nothing to do with what you think it does champ. There are bigger issues going on behind the scenes few of the sheeple really know about..... yet. :winkwink:

I'll give you a little hint, it has to do with programs losing their merchant accounts.

FlexxAeon 08-24-2010 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17438482)
Actually, there is a reason why your rebills have died and it has nothing to do with what you think it does champ. There are bigger issues going on behind the scenes few of the sheeple really know about..... yet. :winkwink:

I'll give you a little hint, it has to do with programs losing their merchant accounts.

please don't feed into my conspiracy theories, Foots :mad:

greg80 08-24-2010 11:58 AM

true, rev share does not make sense any more

Barefootsies 08-24-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 17438505)
please don't feed into my conspiracy theories, Foots :mad:

Actually, it's not a theory. It's fact.

That said, I'll leave it to the ladies of GFY to wait out the actual ripple effect of what is going on behind the scenes with various big programs, merchant banks, their rebills dying out, processing and what not. It has nothing to do with 'porn is free' or 'people will not pay for porn'. I'll leave it at that. Carry on fine sire.

:pimp

plsureking 08-24-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17438482)
"champ"...

I'll give you a little hint, it has to do with programs losing their merchant accounts.

lol oooh insider secrets !! flashback to my dc life.

losing a merchant account is a business killer now? there's so many ways to bill and get paid. if u dont know more than one then u are probably stuck on a rock.

Barefootsies 08-24-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 17438518)
lol oooh insider secrets !! flashback to my dc life.

losing a merchant account is a business killer now? there's so many ways to bill and get paid. if u dont know more than one then u are probably stuck on a rock.

Ignorance is bliss.
:pimp

FlexxAeon 08-24-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17438515)
Actually, it's not a theory. It's fact.

That said, I'll leave it to the ladies of GFY to wait out the actual ripple effect of what is going on behind the scenes with various big programs, merchant banks, their rebills dying out, processing and what not. It has nothing to do with 'porn is free' or 'people will not pay for porn'. I'll leave it at that. Carry on fine sire.

:pimp

i said DON'T! :winkwink:

Barefootsies 08-24-2010 12:05 PM

Shhhhh Be Very Very Quiet. Don't Wake the Sheeple
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 17438530)
i said DON'T! :winkwink:


Nicky 08-24-2010 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17438515)
Actually, it's not a theory. It's fact.

That said, I'll leave it to the ladies of GFY to wait out the actual ripple effect of what is going on behind the scenes with various big programs, merchant banks, their rebills dying out, processing and what not. It has nothing to do with 'porn is free' or 'people will not pay for porn'. I'll leave it at that. Carry on fine sire.

:pimp

This does not affect all. I wouldn't promote revshare with a program that offers high PPS payouts on trials though. Pure revshare programs don't have any problem keeping their merchant as well as all ccbill progrms etc.

Mutt 08-24-2010 12:10 PM

wrong - i have a solo girl site that has been dead for 2 years, meaning no new content, i do rotate content in and out so that a new members gets fresh updates - to him anyway.

i can't stop the rebills, still does 5-10 rebills a day. there are lots of sites that still do rebills.

i don't see the difference between pps and revshare if the sites you're promoting aren't total crap. what's the difference between having the money in your hand a month faster - not as if anybody is making any money from their savings account.

icymelon 08-24-2010 12:14 PM

the more things change the more they stay the same

plsureking 08-24-2010 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17438523)
Ignorance is bliss.
:pimp

your digressive delusion has been entertaining.

Paul Markham 08-24-2010 12:18 PM

If rev share is doing badly it means the members aren't rebilling. So going PPS means the sponsors have to get him to upsell or cross sell in some way. If it's all done with the clients approval, knowledge and satisfaction that's fine.

If not, your sending traffic so a scammer and making everyone's job harder each month.

Barefootsies 08-24-2010 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17438538)
This does not affect all.

That is correct grasshopper.

However, as you well know people will broad stroke these GFY discussions with....

"Everyone is not making sales.."
"Every program is not rebilling worth a shit..."
"Every program is banging cards..."
"Every tube site is stealing content..."

.... and so on.

So my hint and tidbit does not sum up every company, nor the entire industry. However it is effecting some of the bigger, or more well known, ones right now in regards to their rebills.
:pimp

Va2k 08-24-2010 12:35 PM

Wow our rev share is kicking ass! Not just saying that because I work for tushycash.com I am saying this because it is true! It's hard to trust any reps or program owners now a days and looking at stats and seeing rebills I must say I myself personally am very happy with the outcome! I know some sites that I personally belong to have went to shit so I signed up as a member and found out it was because the members area is shit! *shrugs*

Nicky 08-24-2010 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17438579)
grasshopper.

:1orglaugh :mad:

czarina 08-24-2010 12:46 PM

it all depends on what you're promoting. With our shemale site www.AnaTranny.com we have 51% rebills and growing (from overall sales)
Obviously the fact that she does free webcams for her members and updates 3 times a week helps ;)

Nicky 08-24-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 17438638)
it all depends on what you're promoting. With our shemale site www.AnaTranny.com we have 51% rebills and growing (from overall sales)
Obviously the fact that she does free webcams for her members and updates 3 times a week helps ;)

With 3 weekly updates and free weekly cam shows you should do way better than 51%, especially that It's niche too, but maybe It's newly started?

plsureking 08-24-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 17438604)
Wow our rev share is kicking ass! Not just saying that because I work for tushycash.com I am saying this because it is true! It's hard to trust any reps or program owners now a days and looking at stats and seeing rebills I must say I myself personally am very happy with the outcome! I know some sites that I personally belong to have went to shit so I signed up as a member and found out it was because the members area is shit! *shrugs*

geez u sell cars during the day ?

Mistah Charlie 08-24-2010 01:15 PM

Beg to differ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 17438474)
a lot of sites made money in the recession. guys will always need porn.

Ture, but there are plenty of free options.

We are making money in this recession, but not nearly as much.

Porn is NOt recession proof. Quite the opposite. It is the ultimate discretionary buy, esp with so many free alternatives.

czarina 08-24-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 17438651)
With 3 weekly updates and free weekly cam shows you should do way better than 51%, especially that It's niche too, but maybe It's newly started?

the site is relatively new but growing steadily. Trust me, we're aiming for 100% revshare :)

Shap 08-24-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17438482)
Actually, there is a reason why your rebills have died and it has nothing to do with what you think it does champ. There are bigger issues going on behind the scenes few of the sheeple really know about..... yet. :winkwink:

I'll give you a little hint, it has to do with programs losing their merchant accounts.

I agree 100% with you.

billywatson 08-24-2010 02:04 PM

As a program owner, at first I was worried about PPS, and I liked it when resellers did revshare. We update our sites, though, and members stick around. Oh, how I love watching those PPS recurs! Cha-CHING!

2intense 08-24-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexdatesj (Post 17438394)
PPS sites are dropping faster then those RevShare rebills!

i agree :thumbsup

Yanks_Todd 08-24-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17438020)
been like that since last year. pps for life.

ummmm, if rebills are dropping and xsells are gone then PPS for life isn't a motto I would adopt

Barefootsies 08-24-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 17438906)
ummmm, if rebills are dropping and xsells are gone then PPS for life isn't a motto I would adopt

True dat buddy clam.

pornpf69 08-24-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17438001)
Ive watched these retention rates on some of your programs PLUMMET. Have you guys really given up? :upsidedow:upsidedow

maybe you are with the wrong sponsors... I have referred some sales that have been rebilling for over 5 months on a few sponsors... maybe your sponsors simply stopped updating their members area...

Barefootsies 08-24-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornpf69 (Post 17439309)
maybe you are with the wrong sponsors... I have referred some sales that have been rebilling for over 5 months on a few sponsors... maybe your sponsors simply stopped updating their members area...

Those are some other good reasons that are sending ripple effects through the affiliate ranks.

GTS Mark 08-24-2010 08:14 PM

Depends on what niche you are promoting, if you promote gay/tranny/cams/dating you will typically see longer retention rates than your run of the mill teen/gf sites.

Va2k 08-24-2010 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 17438698)
geez u sell cars during the day ?

God, I tell you my feelings and this is what you say? WtF! :warning


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