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  • cambaby
    So Fucking Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 3141

    #1

    Revshare is a joke now

    Ive watched these retention rates on some of your programs PLUMMET. Have you guys really given up?
  • IllTestYourGirls
    Ah My Balls
    • Feb 2007
    • 14311

    #2
    Yup without a doubt. Some of my best ones have dried up big time. Im glad I have a mix of revshare and pps sponsors.

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    • Agent 488
      Registered User
      • Feb 2006
      • 22511

      #3
      been like that since last year. pps for life.

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      • StinkyPink
        It's all goooood.
        • Aug 2009
        • 1591

        #4
        Probably why these programs are all going down. I have noticed my rebills are almost non existant. sucks for sure.

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        • sexdatesj
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2009
          • 1078

          #5
          PPS sites are dropping faster then those RevShare rebills!
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          • Bryan G
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2005
            • 8338

            #6
            Originally posted by Agent 488
            been like that since last year. pps for life.
            PPS is a dying breed as well.
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            • Agent 488
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 22511

              #7
              Originally posted by Bryan G
              PPS is a dying breed as well.
              still plenty around.

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              • dirtybaker1331
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2008
                • 461

                #8
                It really depends on what sponsors you are promoting. Some are good for PPS and some for Rev. If you promote us for example I would recommend rev share. A lot of affiliates need that quick cash though to pay for hosting and whatever else. Rev Share is great for programs that have constant updates.
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                • plsureking
                  bored
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 4909

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dirtybaker1331
                  It really depends on what sponsors you are promoting..
                  ya 2 that.

                  as far as marketing goes, adult is the fastest running water you'll ever step in. if your sales start sucking then you hit a rock in the river. find a way back into the market stream.

                  a lot of sites made money in the recession. guys will always need porn.
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                  • spazlabz
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 6548

                    #10
                    Originally posted by plsureking
                    ya 2 that.

                    as far as marketing goes, adult is the fastest running water you'll ever step in. if your sales start sucking then you hit a rock in the river. find a way back into the market stream.

                    a lot of sites made money in the recession. guys will always need porn.

                    what you said

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                    • Barefootsies
                      Choice is an Illusion
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 42635

                      #11
                      Actually, there is a reason why your rebills have died and it has nothing to do with what you think it does champ. There are bigger issues going on behind the scenes few of the sheeple really know about..... yet.

                      I'll give you a little hint, it has to do with programs losing their merchant accounts.
                      Should You Email Your Members?

                      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                      Enough Said.

                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                      • FlexxAeon
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2003
                        • 3765

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                        Actually, there is a reason why your rebills have died and it has nothing to do with what you think it does champ. There are bigger issues going on behind the scenes few of the sheeple really know about..... yet.

                        I'll give you a little hint, it has to do with programs losing their merchant accounts.
                        please don't feed into my conspiracy theories, Foots
                        flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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                        • greg80
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2007
                          • 1644

                          #13
                          true, rev share does not make sense any more
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                          • Barefootsies
                            Choice is an Illusion
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 42635

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                            please don't feed into my conspiracy theories, Foots
                            Actually, it's not a theory. It's fact.

                            That said, I'll leave it to the ladies of GFY to wait out the actual ripple effect of what is going on behind the scenes with various big programs, merchant banks, their rebills dying out, processing and what not. It has nothing to do with 'porn is free' or 'people will not pay for porn'. I'll leave it at that. Carry on fine sire.

                            Should You Email Your Members?

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                            Enough Said.

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                            • plsureking
                              bored
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 4909

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                              "champ"...

                              I'll give you a little hint, it has to do with programs losing their merchant accounts.
                              lol oooh insider secrets !! flashback to my dc life.

                              losing a merchant account is a business killer now? there's so many ways to bill and get paid. if u dont know more than one then u are probably stuck on a rock.
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                              • Barefootsies
                                Choice is an Illusion
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635

                                #16
                                Originally posted by plsureking
                                lol oooh insider secrets !! flashback to my dc life.

                                losing a merchant account is a business killer now? there's so many ways to bill and get paid. if u dont know more than one then u are probably stuck on a rock.
                                Ignorance is bliss.
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                                Enough Said.

                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                • FlexxAeon
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 3765

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                  Actually, it's not a theory. It's fact.

                                  That said, I'll leave it to the ladies of GFY to wait out the actual ripple effect of what is going on behind the scenes with various big programs, merchant banks, their rebills dying out, processing and what not. It has nothing to do with 'porn is free' or 'people will not pay for porn'. I'll leave it at that. Carry on fine sire.

                                  i said DON'T!
                                  flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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                                  • Barefootsies
                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 42635

                                    #18
                                    Shhhhh Be Very Very Quiet. Don't Wake the Sheeple

                                    Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                                    i said DON'T!
                                    Should You Email Your Members?

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                                    Enough Said.

                                    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                    • Nicky
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 30071

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                      Actually, it's not a theory. It's fact.

                                      That said, I'll leave it to the ladies of GFY to wait out the actual ripple effect of what is going on behind the scenes with various big programs, merchant banks, their rebills dying out, processing and what not. It has nothing to do with 'porn is free' or 'people will not pay for porn'. I'll leave it at that. Carry on fine sire.

                                      This does not affect all. I wouldn't promote revshare with a program that offers high PPS payouts on trials though. Pure revshare programs don't have any problem keeping their merchant as well as all ccbill progrms etc.

                                      gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                      • Mutt
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 34431

                                        #20
                                        wrong - i have a solo girl site that has been dead for 2 years, meaning no new content, i do rotate content in and out so that a new members gets fresh updates - to him anyway.

                                        i can't stop the rebills, still does 5-10 rebills a day. there are lots of sites that still do rebills.

                                        i don't see the difference between pps and revshare if the sites you're promoting aren't total crap. what's the difference between having the money in your hand a month faster - not as if anybody is making any money from their savings account.
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                                        • icymelon
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2007
                                          • 3220

                                          #21
                                          the more things change the more they stay the same
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                                          • plsureking
                                            bored
                                            • Aug 2003
                                            • 4909

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                            Ignorance is bliss.
                                            your digressive delusion has been entertaining.
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                                            • Paul Markham
                                              Too old to care
                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 52942

                                              #23
                                              If rev share is doing badly it means the members aren't rebilling. So going PPS means the sponsors have to get him to upsell or cross sell in some way. If it's all done with the clients approval, knowledge and satisfaction that's fine.

                                              If not, your sending traffic so a scammer and making everyone's job harder each month.
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                                              • Barefootsies
                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 42635

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Nicky
                                                This does not affect all.
                                                That is correct grasshopper.

                                                However, as you well know people will broad stroke these GFY discussions with....

                                                "Everyone is not making sales.."
                                                "Every program is not rebilling worth a shit..."
                                                "Every program is banging cards..."
                                                "Every tube site is stealing content..."

                                                .... and so on.

                                                So my hint and tidbit does not sum up every company, nor the entire industry. However it is effecting some of the bigger, or more well known, ones right now in regards to their rebills.
                                                Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                Enough Said.

                                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                • Va2k
                                                  I’m still alive barley.
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 10060

                                                  #25
                                                  Wow our rev share is kicking ass! Not just saying that because I work for tushycash.com I am saying this because it is true! It's hard to trust any reps or program owners now a days and looking at stats and seeing rebills I must say I myself personally am very happy with the outcome! I know some sites that I personally belong to have went to shit so I signed up as a member and found out it was because the members area is shit! *shrugs*

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                                                  • Nicky
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                    • 30071

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                    grasshopper.

                                                    gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                    • czarina
                                                      Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                      • 10752

                                                      #27
                                                      it all depends on what you're promoting. With our shemale site www.AnaTranny.com we have 51% rebills and growing (from overall sales)
                                                      Obviously the fact that she does free webcams for her members and updates 3 times a week helps ;)

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                                                      • Nicky
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 30071

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by czarina
                                                        it all depends on what you're promoting. With our shemale site www.AnaTranny.com we have 51% rebills and growing (from overall sales)
                                                        Obviously the fact that she does free webcams for her members and updates 3 times a week helps ;)
                                                        With 3 weekly updates and free weekly cam shows you should do way better than 51%, especially that It's niche too, but maybe It's newly started?

                                                        gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                        • plsureking
                                                          bored
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 4909

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Fungus
                                                          Wow our rev share is kicking ass! Not just saying that because I work for tushycash.com I am saying this because it is true! It's hard to trust any reps or program owners now a days and looking at stats and seeing rebills I must say I myself personally am very happy with the outcome! I know some sites that I personally belong to have went to shit so I signed up as a member and found out it was because the members area is shit! *shrugs*
                                                          geez u sell cars during the day ?
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                                                          • Mistah Charlie
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2007
                                                            • 478

                                                            #30
                                                            Beg to differ

                                                            Originally posted by plsureking
                                                            a lot of sites made money in the recession. guys will always need porn.
                                                            Ture, but there are plenty of free options.

                                                            We are making money in this recession, but not nearly as much.

                                                            Porn is NOt recession proof. Quite the opposite. It is the ultimate discretionary buy, esp with so many free alternatives.
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                                                            Cause Mister Charlie told me so"

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                                                            • czarina
                                                              Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 10752

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Nicky
                                                              With 3 weekly updates and free weekly cam shows you should do way better than 51%, especially that It's niche too, but maybe It's newly started?
                                                              the site is relatively new but growing steadily. Trust me, we're aiming for 100% revshare

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                                                              • Shap
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 8313

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                Actually, there is a reason why your rebills have died and it has nothing to do with what you think it does champ. There are bigger issues going on behind the scenes few of the sheeple really know about..... yet.

                                                                I'll give you a little hint, it has to do with programs losing their merchant accounts.
                                                                I agree 100% with you.

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                                                                • billywatson
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 3281

                                                                  #33
                                                                  As a program owner, at first I was worried about PPS, and I liked it when resellers did revshare. We update our sites, though, and members stick around. Oh, how I love watching those PPS recurs! Cha-CHING!

                                                                  I Shoot Porn.

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                                                                  • 2intense
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Dec 2009
                                                                    • 12495

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by sexdatesj
                                                                    PPS sites are dropping faster then those RevShare rebills!
                                                                    i agree
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                                                                    • Yanks_Todd
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 2493

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                                      been like that since last year. pps for life.
                                                                      ummmm, if rebills are dropping and xsells are gone then PPS for life isn't a motto I would adopt
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                                                                      • Barefootsies
                                                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                        • 42635

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Yanks_Todd
                                                                        ummmm, if rebills are dropping and xsells are gone then PPS for life isn't a motto I would adopt
                                                                        True dat buddy clam.
                                                                        Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                        Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                        Enough Said.

                                                                        "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                        • pornpf69
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                          • 15782

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by cambaby
                                                                          Ive watched these retention rates on some of your programs PLUMMET. Have you guys really given up?
                                                                          maybe you are with the wrong sponsors... I have referred some sales that have been rebilling for over 5 months on a few sponsors... maybe your sponsors simply stopped updating their members area...

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                                                                          • Barefootsies
                                                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                            • 42635

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by pornpf69
                                                                            maybe you are with the wrong sponsors... I have referred some sales that have been rebilling for over 5 months on a few sponsors... maybe your sponsors simply stopped updating their members area...
                                                                            Those are some other good reasons that are sending ripple effects through the affiliate ranks.
                                                                            Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                            Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                            Enough Said.

                                                                            "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                            • GTS Mark
                                                                              Vrume Mark
                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                              • 20912

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Depends on what niche you are promoting, if you promote gay/tranny/cams/dating you will typically see longer retention rates than your run of the mill teen/gf sites.

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                                                                              • Va2k
                                                                                I’m still alive barley.
                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                • 10060

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by plsureking
                                                                                geez u sell cars during the day ?
                                                                                God, I tell you my feelings and this is what you say? WtF!

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                                                                                • NetHorse
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                  • 3526

                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                  • pornstar2fag
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                    • 544

                                                                                    #42

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                                                                                    • Jaeger
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                      • 567

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      this economy is a joke, this industry is a joke....

                                                                                      and yet i persit guess i have no choice
                                                                                      been in this industry since 2002.. gettin' too old for this shit..

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                                                                                      • cam_girls
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Apr 2009
                                                                                        • 2968

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        what you need is LifeTime RevShare with a program that converts clients for Life then every new member is more profitable.

                                                                                        35% OK with you guys?

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                                                                                        • james_clickmemedia
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                                          • 2204

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          revshare has always been a joke for most sites. The only place that revshare makes sense is dating, and solo girl sites where the actual model interacts with the customers which equals longer retention rates.
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                                                                                          • Realgfs
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Feb 2008
                                                                                            • 438

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Revshare is still the way to go.. Sponsors with crazy PPS can't keep it going forever. Revshare is payed with existing money.

                                                                                            Remember the webmasters are just as eager to keep the users rebilling as the affiliate. So we work hard for those rebills!
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                                                                                            • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Aug 2009
                                                                                              • 3163

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Realgfs
                                                                                              Revshare is still the way to go.. Sponsors with crazy PPS can't keep it going forever. Revshare is payed with existing money.

                                                                                              Remember the webmasters are just as eager to keep the users rebilling as the affiliate. So we work hard for those rebills!
                                                                                              there's been plenty of revshare programs closing too

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                                                                                              • Sausage
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 3012

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by area51
                                                                                                there's been plenty of revshare programs closing too
                                                                                                I have seen a ton of PPS programs but hardly any revshare programs. Unless you mean a PPS proggy that also offers revshare.

                                                                                                If not then can you list some revshare only programs that have gone under recently. Thx.
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                                                                                                • TeenCat
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a koala
                                                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                                                  • 16139

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  crap free options are mostly only on revshare, so revshare forever!

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                                                                                                  • Fiddler
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2008
                                                                                                    • 835

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by cambaby
                                                                                                    Ive watched these retention rates on some of your programs PLUMMET. Have you guys really given up?
                                                                                                    We still make a LOT more from rebills a month from our affiliates than we do initial joins.

                                                                                                    Affiliates who used to be on PPS with us have switched to revshare because I told them just how well we rebill. Yes that leads to a loss in revenue for us but the way I see it is if the affiliate earns more, they are more likely to push us more and in the long run earn more for both parties involved.

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