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Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:13 AM

With all the DirectNic trouble lately (my thoughts)
 
I think its BS that a domain registrar would delete your site and then lock your domain name because a TGP owner or any affiliate did not produce 2257's which most affiliates DO NOT have. The program has them not the affiliate.

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darksoul 12-14-2006 08:15 AM

moniker seems the way to go
I noticed epass doesn't work with them though which is kinda shitty

RawAlex 12-14-2006 08:16 AM

Pete, geez dude. "all the Directnic trouble"... exactly one case.

"produce 2257 info" - nothing of the sort happened. They asked for pictures and dates of birth for 14 models on a single site.

Your post reads like an attempt to get your buddy Chris some business at the expense of Directnic, kicking someone when they are down. That is a very classless move.

At least tell the truth.

darksoul 12-14-2006 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526134)
Pete, geez dude. "all the Directnic trouble"... exactly one case.

"produce 2257 info" - nothing of the sort happened. They asked for pictures and dates of birth for 14 models on a single site.

Your post reads like an attempt to get your buddy Chris some business at the expense of Directnic, kicking someone when they are down. That is a very classless move.

At least tell the truth.

Directnic did it to themselfs, nobody asked them to police the adult industry.

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526134)
Pete, geez dude. "all the Directnic trouble"... exactly one case.

"produce 2257 info" - nothing of the sort happened. They asked for pictures and dates of birth for 14 models on a single site.

Your post reads like an attempt to get your buddy Chris some business at the expense of Directnic, kicking someone when they are down. That is a very classless move.

At least tell the truth.

Who told directnic to be the police of the internet? I think we already have enough people in the USA trying to stop adult that we don't need more people doing it

Jakke PNG 12-14-2006 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526134)
"produce 2257 info" - nothing of the sort happened. They asked for pictures and dates of birth for 14 models on a single site.

Yes they did, and they shouldn't have done that, none of their business.. :2 cents:

RawAlex 12-14-2006 08:23 AM

*ahem*. Considering that at least one of the trades on Slick's sites has turned up as CP this morning, you might think that Directnic has every right. No, they are not being the police of the internet, that is YOUR spin trying to make them look bad to make your buddy some money.

They have a complaint, they need to address it. It's in their terms that they have the right to ask questions. Most registrars would have just turned the domains off.

Now, quit being a fuckwad trying to make your buddy money on Directnic's back. You look a total fool for it.

DutchTeenCash 12-14-2006 08:23 AM

I didnt read the whole thread since I went to bed yday - help me out

Did dnic request and shut down a site already?

RawAlex 12-14-2006 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather (Post 11526151)
Yes they did, and they shouldn't have done that, none of their business.. :2 cents:

They didn't ask for 2257 info. They asked for ID to show that the model is over 18... no name, no address, no nothing else... picture & DoB visible. That is not 2257 info...

You guys need to take some critical reading classes.

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526153)
*ahem*. Considering that at least one of the trades on Slick's sites has turned up as CP this morning, you might think that Directnic has every right. No, they are not being the police of the internet, that is YOUR spin trying to make them look bad to make your buddy some money.

They have a complaint, they need to address it. It's in their terms that they have the right to ask questions. Most registrars would have just turned the domains off.

Now, quit being a fuckwad trying to make your buddy money on Directnic's back. You look a total fool for it.

Last i checked I can make any post I want. all i said was I use Moniker and have never had a problem with them. so if you want good service signup to www.moniker.com

darksoul 12-14-2006 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526158)
They didn't ask for 2257 info. They asked for ID to show that the model is over 18... no name, no address, no nothing else... picture & DoB visible. That is not 2257 info...

You guys need to take some critical reading classes.

So you admit that in their effort to investigate a cp case they blatantly fail
at it because the age of a model doesn't prove it.

RawAlex 12-14-2006 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx (Post 11526155)
I didnt read the whole thread since I went to bed yday - help me out

Did dnic request and shut down a site already?

No, they asked for proof certain models are adult, and they locked down the account so no changes could be made to the domains. Slick's sites have been up the entire time, without issue. This is very different than most registrars, who with a complaint in hand and seeing a probably violation, would have pulled the plug.

This thread is just Pete trying to make some money for his buddy.

DutchTeenCash 12-14-2006 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526167)
No, they asked for proof certain models are adult, and they locked down the account so no changes could be made to the domains. Slick's sites have been up the entire time, without issue. This is very different than most registrars, who with a complaint in hand and seeing a probably violation, would have pulled the plug.

This thread is just Pete trying to make some money for his buddy.

ok thanks

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526167)
No, they asked for proof certain models are adult, and they locked down the account so no changes could be made to the domains. Slick's sites have been up the entire time, without issue. This is very different than most registrars, who with a complaint in hand and seeing a probably violation, would have pulled the plug.

This thread is just Pete trying to make some money for his buddy.

Im not trying to make money for anyone, i said I was telling people who I use and have never had a problem with. If you don't like my thread then LEAVE

RawAlex 12-14-2006 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete-KT (Post 11526163)
Last i checked I can make any post I want. all i said was I use Moniker and have never had a problem with them. so if you want good service signup to www.moniker.com

Pete, check the thread title. You are trying to drive people to your friend's service while pissing on Directnic. You do this while posting half truths and by trying to make it sound like there is all kinds of trouble with directnic, which is not the case. It is blatant and rude.

You did notice that at least one of the sites Slick was trading with was shut down the Danish authorities today, right?

Jakke PNG 12-14-2006 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526158)
They didn't ask for 2257 info. They asked for ID to show that the model is over 18... no name, no address, no nothing else... picture & DoB visible. That is not 2257 info...

You guys need to take some critical reading classes.

I've red and understood what's going on.. and it's still none of their business.
That's just my take on it. I don't really care what you think about it.

I don't know what legal right they have or don't have, but I wouldn't want that to happen to me. I don't have all the ID's for the FHG's of other companies I use, and it's just mockery and waste of an individuals time to make affiliate seek those out. I don't have hours of time to communicate with dozens of companies trying to get them to give me ID's for content they're basically responsible for. Why don't Directnic hunt down the ID's from the 2257 links from the FHG's themselves? Why make an affiliate jump thru hoops? I'd understand it if it was a paysite, or a content store or whatever 'primaryproducer' that is actually supposed to have the ID's at hand.

If you think that some random company you're dealing with has every right to ask for ID,fine.. I don't think that way.


The think I DO agree with you is that making threads about other registrars that are 'better' isn't very classy though.

Peaches 12-14-2006 08:31 AM

OK, so someone look around and find someone with clearly questionable pictures who's hosted with Moniker. Contact Moniker and see what they do. They have 2 SMART choices - contact the webmaster or contact the government. Which one would you rather have them do?

DirectNic hasn't asked for 2257 info, nor have they shut the sites down.

Again, SO many people putting the cart before the horse.

DutchTeenCash 12-14-2006 08:32 AM

Pete I can live with a moniker link in this thread. I personally think its a fucked up situation too and yes were at dnic too and yes we do have all docs in print and online so were all good.

Still the whole idea behind this is worrying me, to say at least.

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather (Post 11526185)
I've red and understood what's going on.. and it's still none of their business.
That's just my take on it. I don't really care what you think about it.

I don't know what legal right they have or don't have, but I wouldn't want that to happen to me. I don't have all the ID's for the FHG's of other companies I use, and it's just mockery and waste of an individuals time to make affiliate seek those out. I don't have hours of time to communicate with dozens of companies trying to get them to give me ID's for content they're basically responsible for. Why don't Directnic hunt down the ID's from the 2257 links from the FHG's themselves? Why make an affiliate jump thru hoops? I'd understand it if it was a paysite, or a content store or whatever 'primaryproducer' that is actually supposed to have the ID's at hand.

If you think that some random company you're dealing with has every right to ask for ID,fine.. I don't think that way.


The think I DO agree with you is that making threads about other registrars that are 'better' isn't very classy though.

All it was was me saying who we use and have good service with. I just think its BS for a company to try and be the police of something there not

DutchTeenCash 12-14-2006 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11526191)
OK, so someone look around and find someone with clearly questionable pictures who's hosted with Moniker. Contact Moniker and see what they do. They have 2 SMART choices - contact the webmaster or contact the government. Which one would you rather have them do?

DirectNic hasn't asked for 2257 info, nor have they shut the sites down.

Again, SO many people putting the cart before the horse.

thats what I wanted to know too, but it seems noone requested anything. Still to impose some rule thats barely legal sucks. Like others said, you cant bend laws like that and just bypass state laws.

darksoul 12-14-2006 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11526191)
OK, so someone look around and find someone with clearly questionable pictures who's hosted with Moniker. Contact Moniker and see what they do. They have 2 SMART choices - contact the webmaster or contact the government. Which one would you rather have them do?

DirectNic hasn't asked for 2257 info, nor have they shut the sites down.

Again, SO many people putting the cart before the horse.

if its CP I sure has hell want the authorities contacted.
If its not CP you can even contact god because none gives a flying fuck.
But I sure don't want a registrar to tell me whats legal and whats not.

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11526191)
OK, so someone look around and find someone with clearly questionable pictures who's hosted with Moniker. Contact Moniker and see what they do. They have 2 SMART choices - contact the webmaster or contact the government. Which one would you rather have them do?

DirectNic hasn't asked for 2257 info, nor have they shut the sites down.

Again, SO many people putting the cart before the horse.

Hello Peaches

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 11526209)
if its CP I sure has hell want the authorities contacted.
If its not CP you can even contact god because none gives a flying fuck.
But I sure don't want a registrar to tell me whats legal and whats not.

Exactly my thoughts on that, if its true CP then contact the authorities and have that person shut down and arrested, if its not then the registrar shouldn't try being the police

RawAlex 12-14-2006 08:40 AM

Pete, can you cram the "being the police" thing already? They are not trying to be the police. Did BoyAlley lube you up last night or something?

darksoul 12-14-2006 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526239)
Pete, can you cram the "being the police" thing already? They are not trying to be the police. Did BoyAlley lube you up last night or something?

What are they trying to do then ? Because sure thing they don't investigate a cp case.
Not that they'd have such authority in the first place.

RawAlex 12-14-2006 08:44 AM

Darksoul, heh? I am assuming english is your second or third language, you are pretty hard to understand here.

Here is the type of site Slick was linking to from Major Pervent:

http://www.awrats.com/screenshot.jpg

That's right.. look at the referal code... look at what is said on the page.

I am beginning to think that Directnic was contacted because Slick's sites were a major source of traffic for these illegal sites. I have no proof, but when you see things like this, well...

Slick's problem appears to be Slick, nothing else. Seeing Pete start a thread to trying to make his buddy at Moniker some money is downright insulting and rude.

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:47 AM

Bye rawalex

darksoul 12-14-2006 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526255)
useless rambling

you still fail to explain how an ID proves shit.

RawAlex 12-14-2006 08:49 AM

bye what? Bye because I'm right?

I have a feeling you just got owned son, and I am going to contact Moniker and ask them to come on down and distance themselves from your bullshit promotion.

it looks very bad for them indeed.

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526275)
bye what? Bye because I'm right?

I have a feeling you just got owned son, and I am going to contact Moniker and ask them to come on down and distance themselves from your bullshit promotion.

it looks very bad for them indeed.

Ok you do that, lets see what happens, When someone whos not the cops tries to be the cops im gonna call them out on it. Till then go away Alex

darksoul 12-14-2006 08:51 AM

I really wonder whats your connection with DN
I'm sure you're not just a random bystander
I know whats Peaches connection with them, not yours tho

crockett 12-14-2006 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526134)
Pete, geez dude. "all the Directnic trouble"... exactly one case.

"produce 2257 info" - nothing of the sort happened. They asked for pictures and dates of birth for 14 models on a single site.

Your post reads like an attempt to get your buddy Chris some business at the expense of Directnic, kicking someone when they are down. That is a very classless move.

At least tell the truth.


No they asked for current ID's from every model on all his sites to start this BS off.. They dropped it to 14 but from what I've seen they still want ID's for proof of age.

Why would they bother asking for date of birth.. What's that going to prove if it's not on a official ID.. You honestly think they are going to let him just gave them birth dates with no proof.

lol get real.. anyone could make that up..

RawAlex 12-14-2006 08:54 AM

crocket, ID with the name, address, and other personal information blacked out.

What is so hard about that? Content providers have been doing that in some cases since 1995.

darksoul 12-14-2006 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526255)
Darksoul, heh? I am assuming english is your second or third language, you are pretty hard to understand here.

Its actually my 15th language.
Not that that would be the problem tho, you seem to have a problem
understanding everyone.

Pete-KT 12-14-2006 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 11526281)
I really wonder whats your connection with DN
I'm sure you're not just a random bystander
I know whats Peaches connection with them, not yours tho

same thing i'm starting to wonder also

Peaches 12-14-2006 09:07 AM

Most of us have a "connection" with DirectNic because we've known the owners for over 10 years. We know how against CP they are. We know they want to be around for the long term. We know they've worked hard to build an incredible company.

MacDevilish 12-14-2006 09:10 AM

Wow... I need to catch up on this a bit... I appreciate the support from Pete, recommending Moniker service in general, and the service I do my best to provide in specific. Whether he is trying to make money for me, or just being infomative, Moniker's dedication to our clients is verifiably excellent.

With regard to DirectNic, they are good people and friends of ours, and I am unsure exactly what the motivation was for their inquiry and actions, but I don't think that it is an "across the board" policy for their company. Since I don't work for them, I won't guess how their policy is changing, or what future plans they might have.

What I CAN speak to is MONIKER'S policy with regard to complaints or objections to our clients websites and domains. We don't shut you down for complaints... Let's face it... it is the adult industry, SOMEBODY is going to have a problem with it somewhere, so we expect for there to be complaints... the difference between us and many other registrars is that we will TALK TO YOU about it before taking any action.

From this standpoint, RawAlex, it is understandable why Pete would be talking about Moniker and me... We PROTECT HIS INTRESTS. We make sure that he, and all of our other many adult and adult related clients continue to make money by NOT yielding to complaints. On a daily basis we recieve complaints and orders to "cease and desist"... I don't get shaken up when they come in, because normally they are just sent to rattle cages and try and scare us into shutting a site down. Suffice it to say that we don't scare easily.

I am grateful for all the clients that I work with, and for the friendships that I have with my clients. Pete is a good friend, as are many others. I will continue to protect their interests as best I can.

darksoul 12-14-2006 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11526361)
Most of us have a "connection" with DirectNic because we've known the owners for over 10 years. We know how against CP they are. We know they want to be around for the long term. We know they've worked hard to build an incredible company.

translation: kiss ass

jimthefiend 12-14-2006 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11526275)
bye what? Bye because I'm right?

I have a feeling you just got owned son, and I am going to contact Moniker and ask them to come on down and distance themselves from your bullshit promotion.

it looks very bad for them indeed.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Idiot.

darksoul 12-14-2006 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonikerChris (Post 11526378)
Wow...

Now it would be a good time to make epass virtual card work with your merchant.


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