Well, you must be so fucking dense, because nobody could see your answer
(besides RawAlex, obviously)

Where does anyone say they reported ANY domain??

Geeze.

Ya moniker would check it out and then talk to the webmaster, not LOCK your account and tell your your fucked

Chris, My epassporte works great with you (for a non-US billing address)

I've also been a customer with you guys since you started and you are still the only registrar with real customer service and time to answer even the smallest of questions.

If they were smart, they'd lock it. No sense letting a CP pervert get off the radar that easily.

exactly and thats why i posted that they have excelent customer service and rawalex (sounds gay) started sucking DN's cock and saying they did nothing wrong

peaches sorry i forgot your so close and buddy buddy with DN that there right and everyone else is wrong

I can testify to that.

I once ran a free host and hosted the domain with moniker and I got all kinds of questionable content uploaded. Moniker always contacted me first when they got complaints so I had the opportunity to delete/ban the offending free host accounts.

exactly because they take care of there customers not try to run them away

I don't know what the content precisely was, and I think that with regard to CP there should be no quarter given in the prosecution of it, I think everyone in this thread feels similar disgust with regard to it. THAT BEING SAID, it is not the job of the registrar to verify the ages of the models being used in response to a complaint.

I would contact the client, let them know about the complaint, find out thier thoughts on how they wanted me to handle it, and then politely tell the person making the complaint that the matter has been discussed.

There isn't a lot more that the registrar can legally do... If I remember the procedure correctly, the BUSINESSOWNER is responsible to keep the model consent forms and age verification, so that if a law enforcement organization was to ask for it, it could be presented... a registrar (even with a loose definition of that word) is NOT a law enforcement organization... :)

Good post since DN stuck it's nose into a place where it doesn't belong... if you leave your domains with them after all this then you are looking trouble square in the face!

That was my exact point to this thread

Exactly my point

the asskissing in tthis buisness astounds me

Neither is a host or a billing company, but they do the same thing.

Since Slick's admitted that at least one of the sites was questionable, would have let it go at that or reported him for having CP on his sites?

Would you say the ATTORNEY (I know you like capitalizing that word) from FSC gave bad or inaccurate advice on the issue then? Would you shop around then for an ATTORNEY that gave you the advice you wanted to hear?

I answered that: Sets featuring underage models wouldn't come with ID, now would they?

think!

You should at least try to fake that you understand whats beeing talked about.

Nobody has a problem with directnic trying to work out with Slick, the problem is how they do it.

Is it so hard to grasp that some content producer could take a current id
and say the content was produced x months ago while it was produced several years ago ?

think trice.

hey Pete, do me a favor, keep your insults to yourself. If you have a problem with my comments, address the comments. Name calling and insults just point out how much you have really lost your grip on the whole deal.

You don't like Directnic, fine, don't do business with them. I am just disgusted to see you and Chris here trying to drum up buisness against them. Sharks in the water, smelling blood, perhaps?

I don't have a horse in this race. I don't do business with either. If you hadn't come out touting moniker, your comments regarding Directnic might have a little more weight.

Too bad.

Now if you want to play name calling and insult games, I suggest you go to the sandbox in the park near your house. The kids over there might enjoy it.

Then there is no issue, because Slick would have all the needed documents to say the model was 18 when the stuff was shot, and would even pass a 2257 inspection... THINK!

Are you suggesting that Slick is a victim of content producers trying to sneak CP onto his site?

Without bothering to read your post, does your solution have anything to do with kissing someone's ass like you do all the time, you brown-nosed idiot?

no, what I'm saying is that Directnic can't determine if its cp or not.
What if based on 14 ids Directnic says its not cp and lets it go, and theres some cp somewhere on that site (not talking about Slick;s site here, but some other random site DN decides it needs to do an investigation)

All of a sudden you helped someone promoting cp.
BRAVO!
oops.

Then "they" (Slick) probably shouldn't have signed the contract agreeing to have it done this way.

Peaches, that is a good question, and I can only restate how I have handled this kind of thing in the past... by taking the complaint in stride, passing along the information and complaint to the site owner, and let him/her/them regulate themselves... if the content is illegal then they should pull it, but it IS after all, their responsiblity... It is OUR responsiblity as a registrar to field the complaint and advise the business owner of it...

There is a ton of content that is featured by clients of mine and others that doesn't hoist my mast, and there is a ton of content, as we all know, that features young LOOKING models with pigtails and braces... Monitoring the content, or verifying the models ages absolutely DOES NOT fall into the purview of a registrar... handling the privacy and protection of our clients DOES!

Probably, we're all learning our lesson here, aren't we ?
I hope everyone shits on the signed contracts, and moves on.
Everyone will be happy this way.

Well for you to not do business with them you sure are trying to stickup for them, I can post anyone I want I also dont like how godaddy does business but i LOVE how www.moniker.com does.

So whos fake nick are you? Oh ya i cna take 2 quesses and one will be right, GET A LIFE and get out of my thread, oh and THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS

Yeah, I'm going now to paint my house pink and tell the HOA to fuck themselves because no law says I can't paint my house pink - only the contract I signed with the HOA.

Hell, there's no law that says my vet's not responsible if my dog dies on the operating table but the contract I signed said he's not. Fuck him too.

And I don't see a single law that says I have to pay my mortgage. They'll never see another dime out of ME!

They guy who's coming to fill my propane tank next week? I'm not paying him. There's no law written that says I have to pay to get my propane tank filled!!

I swear, sometimes I feel like I'm dealing with children here, not business people.

Chris, I have to say I disagree with you here. If you have a complaint in your hand about CP, giving the offender a chance to move their domains to another place and sneak away isn't a good idea. Do you honestly think that Slick would have done anything except move his domains to another registrar?

Nobody is suggesting that registrars need to check all the content on all the domains they have registered. Dirctnic was working from a complaint, not a moral high horse. No complaint, no issue. CP is a very serious subject, not like copyright violations or spam complaints. What would be good for handling spam (or a wayward member of a free host) isn't the same as when you have a valid complaint in your hand about models on a site.

It doesn't mean that the information hasn't ALSO been forwarded to the FBI, there is nothing to preclude that. I think Directnic took their responsiblity that is part of their ToS and did what they need to enforce their registration contract. We may not like the means because we are all riled up about 2257 inspections and whatnot, but that is that. Directnic didn't ask for a 2257 inspection, and they didn't shut Slick's business down. They just didn't provide him a simple way to slip away in a midnight move to an offshore registry to avoid the hassle.

Again, verifying all model ages of all models on all sites is not within hter purview of the registrar, but taking complaints about CP seriously and acting on them with the best interests of all parties (not just your domain holder) in mind is a very wise thing to do.

So there's nothing that says you can't object to it or complain about it is there? What's wrong with having a debate on the issue and hoping to make a change? Why do you want everyone to shutup, bend over and take it up the ass?

You've said a lot of stupid shit lately Peaches. You've basically inferred that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a Pedophile and supports Child Porn. That's usually the place someone goes when their arguments lack any real merit in the first place. Now you're calling anyone that doesn't agree with you "children." That's usually the place someone goes when their arguments lack any real merit in the first place. Do you see the pattern?

How does that relate to my post ?
WE got your point! We signed a contract that allows DN to fuck us in the ass.
Whats the next logical step ?
I'm sure you smart enough to figure it out, right ?

Yep, find a registrar that doesn't have that in their contract if you're going to have anything that's close to CP on your sites. Have you done that yet? So far, from what I've seen posted, that's in all the contracts.

Brujah, with due respect man, it is very difficult to discuss anything about legal on here because so many people seem ignorant of the basics of things like contract law, business law, and criminal law. They all run around like chickens with their heads cut off yelling "PRIVACY VIOlATION! YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE! NO 2257 CHECKS!" without even truly knowing what they are talking about.

A photo ID with only the image and the date of birth showing is not a privacy violation (it better not be, because that is how most content was delivered for years). I have content purchased in 96 or 97 with those exact types of documents attached. I sure hope they didn't violate privacy! Considering I wouldn't know the model name, address, or other information, I don't suspect their privacy got violated.

Issues of contract law, ToS, and registration agreements are for the lawyers to figure out in civil court. From my point of view, there is nothing in the Directnic agreement that seems to be an issue, and most if not all of the other registrars have similar clauses. Nobody can force Directnic (or anyone else) to offer registration services to illegal sites. When in doubt, and with complaint in hand, Directnic is within their contractual right to ask for verification of this to prove that their contract has not been violated.

I suspect that a sworn statement would have been enough to handle this. I suspect if Slick had picked up the phone first rather than heading directly to GFY, he might have found this out for himself.

Too much of what is in these threads is people with little understanding of the laws that govern such agreements peeing into the wind to fan the flames. At that point, Peaches is pretty much right to say "children". People need to understand more before they start randomly pissing on things.

No, the next step is finding a company that won't fuck you in the ass
even if its in their TOS.

and spare us with your bs CP talk because its been said a zillion times in this
thread that noone has any tolerance for CP.

The only way Directnic will "fuck you in the ass" is if you are running sites that look like they have CP or illegal material on them, and they get a complaint. I would much rather that they "fuck you in the ass" than allowing you to slip your domains to another registrar to avoid facing the issues.

Do yo have something you want to tell the class? You seem awfully protective of these CJ sites covered in CP I found through Slick's sites.

this thread fucking rules too bad i didnt get my spot of sigin here,.

You appear to have great tolerance for CP, because you would rather tell Directnic not to look, and just keep on providing domain services regardless of anything that get told, regardless of any complaint, etc.

You would have Slick slide his domains off to another registrar, and go on linking to some really horrible sites, for however long it takes the US government to getting around to checking his stuff.

Like it or not, that puts you on the same side as supporting CP or the trading of traffic with CP for profit. That ain't a really good place to sit.

If DN wanted to fuck Slick in the ass, they would have reported him to the authorities immediately.

And I'll keep bringing up CP since that was the orginal issue, Slick has admitted at least one of his trades was questionable at best, and even those against DN's decisions have admitted that the girls looked underage.

So....had DN reported him to the authorities, he'd still have to come up with the same info DN is asking for - probably after his lawyer posted bond.

If you don't want to host with DN, then don't do it. But they did EXACTLY what Slick said they could do AND they saved his ass by not reporting him.

You're so fucking lame. Seriously. You're only combat to all whats been said
is that we support CP.

For the record I don't even promote hardcore (besides webcams) and I don't
even have adult sites (maybe 1 which I dont use) with Directnic. All of them are mainstream.

Yet I don't agree with what they do. Actually with how they do it.

And I think I have more of a right to an opinion on this matter since I'm a customer for quite a few years and on the other part you're not even a customer. You're just kissing some old friends ass.