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xxxjay 07-30-2004 02:51 PM

What are you going to do about this 2257 shit?
 
The new 2257 regulations go in effect in less than a month. My question is: What are your plans to comply?

tony286 07-30-2004 02:59 PM

The new requirements were published in the Federal Register on June 25, 2004; the public will have a chance to comment on them until August 24. Then the regulations come out then you have 30 days to comply. So its around September 25 th. Its good to get your records in order but the final regs could be different.

WiredGuy 07-30-2004 03:00 PM

I'm not worried one bit. Granted I don't own a single image or video either, so I was never worried to begin with.

WG

Jace 07-30-2004 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I'm not worried one bit. Granted I don't own a single image or video either, so I was never worried to begin with.

WG

you don't host any naked pics on any server that you run?

MandyBlake 07-30-2004 03:04 PM

We're getting everything in order according to the new proposed regulations.
Might as well be ready for something that may never come than to not be prepared and get fucked.

tony286 07-30-2004 03:04 PM

Sadly most will do nothing till something happens then the panic will happen. lol

WiredGuy 07-30-2004 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
you don't host any naked pics on any server that you run?
Censored adult paysite tours only. No galleries, no TGPs, no images other than the tours.

WG

xxxjay 07-30-2004 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I'm not worried one bit. Granted I don't own a single image or video either, so I was never worried to begin with.

WG

If is on your server - you are responsible. As a fellow SE dude - I fear that puts us right on top of the hitlist. You need to read more about 2257.

Rick Latona 07-30-2004 03:09 PM

*edit* logged in with wrong account.

Jace 07-30-2004 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
If is on your server - you are responsible. As a fellow SE dude - I fear that puts us right on top of the hitlist. You need to read more about 2257.
i agree

censored or not, if there is implied obscenity, they will get ya

wiredguy, have you chatted with you lawyer about all this? i might recommend it...

freeadultcontent 07-30-2004 03:12 PM

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tony286 07-30-2004 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm listing xxxjay as my keeper of records, and then posting your home address.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Thats too funny.

McSpike 07-30-2004 03:13 PM

just move to offshore and hotlink. if google can get away with it so will you.

tgpmakers 07-30-2004 03:13 PM

I live in the UK but use americas servers i'm not sure what to do yet if I live in the UK why should I comply just because I host in the states?

xxxjay 07-30-2004 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Rick Latona
"I'm listing xxxjay as my keeper of records, and then posting your home address."

What was the address of the CJ offices again?

WiredGuy 07-30-2004 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
If is on your server - you are responsible. As a fellow SE dude - I fear that puts us right on top of the hitlist. You need to read more about 2257.
I know, I've been delaying it for too long. I've been rather ignorant about it seeing that the stuff I've always hosted has been censored making sure no cumshots or penetration are shown. I still do need to take the time and review the proposed changes but to be perfectly honest, I'm not particularly worried. Especially with my new SE stuff, a lot of it is just redirection directly to video based tours which is the main reason I've been delaying it. My older stuff would definitely be applicable though.

WG

WiredGuy 07-30-2004 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
censored or not, if there is implied obscenity, they will get ya

wiredguy, have you chatted with you lawyer about all this? i might recommend it...

Not yet. It's on one of those things to do list that keeps getting bumped.

WG

McSpike 07-30-2004 03:17 PM

I give a shit. the whole thing is BS. non-US residents simply do not care. no new US regulation can change this fact.

xxxjay 07-30-2004 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I know, I've been delaying it for too long. I've been rather ignorant about it seeing that the stuff I've always hosted has been censored making sure no cumshots or penetration are shown. I still do need to take the time and review the proposed changes but to be perfectly honest, I'm not particularly worried. Especially with my new SE stuff, a lot of it is just redirection directly to video based tours which is the main reason I've been delaying it. My older stuff would definitely be applicable though.

WG

The trouble with taking to lawyers - if you talk to three of them - you are likely to get three different opinions.

WiredGuy 07-30-2004 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
The trouble with taking to lawyers - if you talk to three of them - you are likely to get three different opinions.
Try putting an accountant that works for you, a tax-attorney and a federal auditor all in the same room to figure out your taxes. They all come back with three different results. Seems my accountant always has the best numbers though :)

WG

polish_aristocrat 07-30-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
*edit* logged in with wrong account.
hmm

xxxjay 07-30-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
hmm
That was Paul logged in as Rick.

Sly_RJ 07-30-2004 03:24 PM

Talking to my lawyer next week about it. Every lawyer is going to have different opinions and solutions I would imagine. So while Person A may be told to get the fuck out of dodge, Person B will be told to sit tight and find a workable solution.

I'm not too worried just yet. If I need to drastically change the way I do things, I will. It's not as if there are many options.

Oracle Porn 07-30-2004 03:27 PM

moving my ass offshore

xxxjay 07-30-2004 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Talking to my lawyer next week about it. Every lawyer is going to have different opinions and solutions I would imagine. So while Person A may be told to get the fuck out of dodge, Person B will be told to sit tight and find a workable solution.

I'm not too worried just yet. If I need to drastically change the way I do things, I will. It's not as if there are many options.

I wouldn't sleep on it, you don't want to be one of the first people they come for.

MandyBlake 07-30-2004 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
you don't host any naked pics on any server that you run?
You don't need 2257 information for just a naked pic. Now if they're touching themselves in a sexual way or if they're fucking someone, that's different.

Preacher 07-30-2004 03:30 PM

a lot of people from outside the US on this board it seems :glugglug

tony286 07-30-2004 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
The trouble with taking to lawyers - if you talk to three of them - you are likely to get three different opinions.
But its better than depending on boards or friends for legal advice. I also think lawyer opinions wont be too far off base from each other on this one.

Sly_RJ 07-30-2004 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
I wouldn't sleep on it, you don't want to be one of the first people they come for.
Which is why I'm talking to my lawyer next week about it.

Martys manhood 07-30-2004 03:37 PM

So it is only your responsibility if the pics and stuff are on YOUR server?

If it's on your site, but another server (like a free host) you aren't responsible?

Also, this may be another dumb question, but what about banners/advertisements? What do you do about those?

xxxjay 07-30-2004 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martys manhood
So it is only your responsibility if the pics and stuff are on YOUR server?

If it's on your site, but another server (like a free host) you aren't responsible?

Also, this may be another dumb question, but what about banners/advertisements? What do you do about those?

If it appears on your site - your ass is grass.

kush 07-30-2004 03:58 PM

I'm going to get organized, but am going to wait until the final laws are made to make a decision.

PatrickKing 07-30-2004 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MandyBlake
We're getting everything in order according to the new proposed regulations.
Might as well be ready for something that may never come than to not be prepared and get fucked.

:thumbsup

gothweb 07-30-2004 05:01 PM

I only have non-explicit nudes. (No masturbation, no pentration, no sex.) I still have model IDs for every model whose photos you can see on my site. Can't hurt.

xxxdesign-net 07-30-2004 05:22 PM

WHat about AVS sites? Technically.. the webmaster own the site (content) but the signup money and signup page is owned by the AVS network... You are in a way, an affiliate to your own site and their AVS network...

What about ripped DVDs? Nobody will be able to get the documentation for each models..

And what about PayPerView sites like aben..?

BRISK 07-30-2004 05:26 PM

:glugglug

xxxjay 07-30-2004 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
WHat about AVS sites? Technically.. the webmaster own the site (content) but the signup money and signup page is owned by the AVS network... You are in a way, an affiliate to your own site and their AVS network...

What about ripped DVDs? Nobody will be able to get the documentation for each models..

And what about PayPerView sites like aben..?

I doubt Jonny-boy really cares. He wants to clean up the internet, and he's gonna do it. He wants what he wants - no need to be reasonable.

gothweb 07-30-2004 05:49 PM

What was it Kerry said in his speech? "I will appoint an Attorney General who will DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION!" or something like that?

xxxjay 07-30-2004 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
What was it Kerry said in his speech? "I will appoint an Attorney General who will DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION!" or something like that?
Yeah, that's true. He got a lot of points from me on that remark.

Bottom line is: The reg will go into effect on 8/24. Then we have 30 days to comply, so that's 9/24. If on 11/3 Bush loses the election and becomes a lame duck -- Asshat will probably take a few parting shots at the industry before he goes back to losing elections to dead men. Then, maybe, the country will return to some sanity.

Vote Kerry.

Global-X 07-30-2004 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
WHat about AVS sites? Technically.. the webmaster own the site (content) but the signup money and signup page is owned by the AVS network... You are in a way, an affiliate to your own site and their AVS network...

What about ripped DVDs? Nobody will be able to get the documentation for each models..

And what about PayPerView sites like aben..?


What about the Paris Hilton Video ?
What about the Houston 500 ?


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