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... 08-02-2004 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by TheSaint
I hate to ruin it for you all but after Kerry gets elected in November, the republicans will still run congress and be the opposition party.

The last "child protection (not)" anti-porn bill passed congress 99 to 1, with all the democrats voting for it too.

Even more in a Kerry administration, the democrats can't risk being seen as "soft on porn" so they will join the republicans in the battle - or risk a 1 term presidency.

Time to move to Russia. At least they don't ban porn and you can still get a politician hit for under 20 ruples.

The 2257 is enforced by the DOJ. With Ashhahahahaha gone, they'll have more important things to do then arrest people on obscure bookkeeping laws.

The question of another COPA act rising though is a concern.

GatorB 08-02-2004 01:41 PM

Within 24 hours of this law taking effect someone will sue and just like COPA there will be an injunction to stop it from becoming enforcable until it runs through the courts. So far COPA is on year 6.

xxxjay 08-02-2004 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by ...
The 2257 is enforced by the DOJ. With Ashhahahahaha gone, they'll have more important things to do then arrest people on obscure bookkeeping laws.

The question of another COPA act rising though is a concern.

If the 2257 turns out to be a worst case scenerio - we would have been much better off with COPA passing, not that the AG wouldn't have followed that up the a 2257 coup de gras.

Pornkings 08-02-2004 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
I doubt Jonny-boy really cares. He wants to clean up the internet, and he's gonna do it. He wants what he wants - no need to be reasonable.
Bingo...

Follow the rules and you will be OK

cayne 08-02-2004 02:24 PM

I am doing nothing. 26 21.67%
I live outside the US. This does not affect me. 29 24.17%

classic :)

xxxjay 08-02-2004 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
Bingo...

Follow the rules and you will be OK

Whatup Roger?

Yeah, the conundrum is that the rule set forth are damn near impossible to follow. Do you have one set on content that doesn't have 2 IDS? Are you at the office all day for an inspection? Is all of your record cross-referenced, alphabetical, and in 11 point type?

Then you are not in compliance.

wdsguy 08-02-2004 08:48 PM

its gonna suck for us thats for sure

xxxjay 08-02-2004 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by wdsguy
its gonna suck for us thats for sure
I agree.

The only way to ease this back is to get Bush out of office in November. Had 9/11 not happened, we would be elbow deep in this years ago.

tony286 08-02-2004 10:11 PM

I wish I got to meet you when you were in Atlanta Jay you seem like a really cool guy.

xxxjay 08-03-2004 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by tony404
I wish I got to meet you when you were in Atlanta Jay you seem like a really cool guy.
Yeah, I figured with a tony404 handle that you were an ATAlien. I live in Cali now, but you had 14 years to meet me in the ATL - LOL.

Vote Kerry. :)

xxxjay 08-03-2004 03:55 AM

bump

xxxjay 08-12-2004 01:34 AM

My mind is made up on how I will handle my 2257 issues. I spoke, at length, and very expensively to one of the top 1st amendment guys that successfully defended Max Hardcore. You can too for $275 / hr.

Here is the long and short of it:

Q: Is the new 2257 scary?
A: Yes.

Q: Will it be enforced?
A: Yes, there will be enforcement prior to the elections. Whoever gets nabbed during that time will be prosecuted even if the administration changes hands. If Bush stays in power, prepare for 4 years of unmitigated hell. If he does not stay in power - this will all probably die back down.

Q: Is the Sundance case set a precedent to beat a 2257 rap?
A: Yes, it probably does, but you had better have around 125k of spare income to fight it if it ever winds up in federal court.

If you want to stay in this game: hire a good 1st amendment, prepare for the worst, get your ship in order, and have money to fight a case.

That?s the last I will comment on 2257.

CHMOD 08-12-2004 07:52 AM

I agree, this law is total bullshit.

There are 2 things I will ignore:

1- I am canadian and so are my models, I don't care if the american governement don't accept canadian driver's liscence as a proof of identity. Most of my models doesn't have their passport so fuck it. If my webhost is making me trouble, I'll switch to a canadian webhost. It would be sad cause I love webair.

2- I will never give my models private informations. ( Address, phone number. ) If they want it, they will have to write me a legal letter.


In short, I have their driver's licsence with their birth date, a signed model release and that's it. I won't phone my 400 models to ask them to show me their passport.

NoCarrier 08-12-2004 08:03 AM

22... 5.. 7? What? :1orglaugh

Fabien 08-12-2004 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by garymayor
I live in the UK but use americas servers i'm not sure what to do yet if I live in the UK why should I comply just because I host in the states?
I don't not live in the UK but in Canada and my servers are US hosted. I don't know WTF i'll do. :helpme
I don't run paysites, only traffic generating sites.

Fabien 08-12-2004 10:32 AM

So ?

CHMOD 08-12-2004 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Fabien
So ?
Ask them. They'll tell you if you have to comply or not.
If you do have, switch to another host.

coolfuck 08-12-2004 12:01 PM

i live outside usa but my hosting is in usa:321GFY

Thomas1007 08-12-2004 03:13 PM

im using our new software
:thumbsup

xxxjay 08-16-2004 11:11 PM

For those of you who were at Internext for the 2257 seminar (which was very good - BTW) - would any of you have voted different after hearing the panel?

DWB 08-16-2004 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
Very noble of you. Try telling that to the judge. :)
I'm less that a year away from moving out of the USA... far away, so if they want to come and get me, I will tell exactly that to the judge. Truth be told, they won't care about me when there are so many of you here in the USA. Easy targets, easy cases. Who wants to deal with some asshat living 10'000 miles away that refuses to give up his models privacy when they can stick it to Joe Blow living in Kansas.

Other than giving up the models privacy, I will be 100% compliant and have IDs for every single model I have ever worked with. :thumbsup I'm not worried.

sixxxth_sense 08-16-2004 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by McSpike
I give a shit. the whole thing is BS. non-US residents simply do not care. no new US regulation can change this fact.

xxxjay 08-16-2004 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
For those of you who were at Internext for the 2257 seminar (which was very good - BTW) - would any of you have voted different after hearing the panel?
??

Sarah_Jayne 08-17-2004 03:34 AM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
That is the million dollar question.

It's is my opinion that there is no "grandfather clause".

that is the big question, I guess. I have no problem following all the rules from this moment on but there are going to be galleries on freehosts from years ago, etc that I will have no access to. That is going to be loads of fun.

xxxjay 08-17-2004 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
that is the big question, I guess. I have no problem following all the rules from this moment on but there are going to be galleries on freehosts from years ago, etc that I will have no access to. That is going to be loads of fun.
I wouldn't count on them making anything easy for you.


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