18 refunds/chargebacks this month, my personal record
 

18 is my record in negative transactions for my affiliate accounts since i've been involved in the industry for 10 years :helpme

All from the same affiliate?

oh, and before all the gfy'ers that go against everything

i havent changed anything about who i promote, i promote anyone and everyone, my traffic is spread VERY thin throughout all the sites available

btw, i miscalculated, it's 21 refunds/chargebacks, NOT 18

I've been seeing an increase as well.

that sucks.

5 from 1
2 from another
2 from another
then all 1's

so it's spread out, so it actually seems "trendy"

they are catching on!!!

Interesting. Who's your processor?

A bank usually issues a CB request only if the complaint is placed, there is nobody answering the telephone support line, and your support can not conclusively prove that the member signed up for, and used the service. This is usually pretty easy to provide.

That must hurt.. would be like 1/4 of my sales :(

Yikes.... no CB for me this month... thank goodness...

I had a bad charge back month last month mostly on the rebills. But nothing like that ouch! What % of your sales is that?

this month sucks badly, one of my sponsors - up until now rock solid 1:300 on a micro-niche, this month rock solid 1:4000 ;(

I just caught a fucker last week who has wacked me for 4 CB's over 2 years. If they are ccbill subscriptions, email the ccbill fraud dept. They were able to verify that the guy has done this on other sites. Is there a subscriber blacklist out there for webmasters? I know for a while I was getting a lot of check fraud by these fuckers using a simple trick I'm not going to post here.

Oh how i'd like to name names.

I have had access to too many members areas over the years.

It is shocking how the member areas differ and don't deliver what the tours promise.

Exactly.

I think my highest month EVER was 5. That's right. Years of doing business online. FIVE FUCKING CHARGEBACKS, in a month, over 5 or 6 membership sites total!! Over 6 memberships sites, a TOETAL of 5 chargebacks.

On average, I would guess a normal month is 1, and you may have a bounced check or two. So let's say 3 monthly MAXIMUM on average.

However, I have been burned in the past on membership sites who's tours promise one thing, and the site is nothing remotely close. So I can see why their chargebacks would be "off da hook".

:disgust

my 21 is not a big % of my overall sales, so it's not that huge of a deal, but it's definately a disturbing thing since i've been pushing sites for 10 years, and this is the 1 worst month of negatives in the past 120 months (10yrs)



btw, this is combined, nats, epoch, ccbill, verotel
8 ccbill
5 epoch
4 nats
4 verotel

Sorry to hear that bro,but am sure some wild party tomorrow evening will make u forget about it,hehe:)

That seems like a lot for CCBill; they make a point of contacting the program to try to rectify any issues, unless the person tells them that they just didn't sign up for it, and it was a stolen CC.

I have noticed one of my sponsors getting like a charge back per week. Funny thing is I have hardly sent any sales to that sponsor. I would assume it is like a 75%+ charge back rate...time to pull the links.

People are short on cash and are refunding/CBing more than usual.

You know you have a chargeback when, as example, Epoch takes it off your remittance, plus the 25.00 fee.

I had one last week. Guy signed up for a 3 months membership, cancelled 6 weeks later after dl near 45 gigs of content. Never heard from him, no emaiol, no phone, nothing ... 39.99 reversal plus 25.00 fee .

No point in arguing, loss of time :2 cents:

Had way too many CCBill800 chargebacks the past few weeks. Not too many CC chargebacks as ussual. About to drop that check shit completely.

I dropped the check option on all my sites, but one, a year or two back. I The CCB bounced checks were off the hook. One of my friends in OZ noticed the same. So we both killed the check option around the same time.

Fuck em.

Never had a complaint then, or since, about taking checks. People must have realized that they need a CC to get porn, or at least our stuff, I guess. Out of the 1 site that still allows checks,... very few bounced. On average for I'd say maybe 1. Some months 2+, and sometimes none.

If I saw the same trend I did on the porn sites, I would kill it on that site as well. Check people make up less than 5%.

Go get some fucking money.

if a affiliate is established and wants to signup for a program.Will the program give him access to the members area to check it out?

Check is still a good way for ppl to join our sites, we have less than 1% returned checks, so if you see pluses versus minuses, its still good.

Stop bragging. :D

Why wouldnt they? I am not well known or a big player and all I had to do was ask to get access to the sites I wanted to check out. But then again I did send them a few sales first.

I got hit with --- Did you actually see him and did he sign the contract in your presence?

I said no maam it was done on the Internet?

She said he wins cuz you have no proof.:mad:

Try WTS - I had to have Epoch and CCBill check options completely removed from my sites, but WTS collects on checks like the mob. Seriously.

Then she's going by the old "swipe card" book. You got a bad bank rep; most of them are familiar with the digital age.

That sure sucks big time!

oh man. sorry to hear that.

I disagree with some of this as I feel a lot of it is fraud. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it's more likely the person would just be pissed and not re-bill or ever purchase from the site again. I have processed 15K+ subscriptions and the CB's seem to come in waves when it's affiliate fraud or people working together to scam a site, (yes, there are boards out there with clear information on how to use check fraud and CB's to get free memberships :2 cents:

Agreed. It can be. I notice it as a better option on certain sites, then others. in my case, the porn sites, it was a bad option. So we killed it. It did not effect sales in the end, nor did we get complaints.

Agreed.

I blacklist them with glee, on both processors. So that is not an option (for them to re-join). :)

True dat. On both accounts. Do a simple G search on your website(s). You will find many boards listed in the SERPS where people are asking for passwords to your website(s).

It's not mystery science theatre.

You'd be surprised how the affiliate programs do not want to believe they are getting chargebacks because of how poorly ran the members areas are...

they will just tell you its cause the surfer is a scammer or broke or didn't know how to cancel the recurring membership...

So true..

haha, yea for sure man, btw, just had my best ccbill day of the year now :)
so wierd!

I got 5 so far ;)

U see,am lucky :winkwink:

they're still rolling in consistently