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hateman 01-09-2008 03:25 PM

Why doesn't some Aikido master just come in and clean up in the UFC?
 
Makes sense doesn't it?

polish_aristocrat 01-09-2008 03:26 PM

:1orglaugh:error:thumbsup

TheSenator 01-09-2008 03:30 PM

http://www.staldiman.ch/mediac/400_0...ikido-0001.jpg

I have been working with Steven on his ground game to tighten it up a bit. Steven is pretty tough when some comes to close contact and wrist control.

Steven should be ready in about 5 months to make his UFC debut.

notoldschool 01-09-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13630480)
Makes sense doesn't it?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:rasta

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-09-2008 03:33 PM

because aikido is nothing more than a japanese stage performance...

/thread

bushwacker 01-09-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13630480)
Makes sense doesn't it?


Let's get that dude in your sig. mofo looks like he would enjoy beating on people.

L-Pink 01-09-2008 03:35 PM

WTF? Steve is beating the shit out of izzz!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 13630499)


:1orglaugh

flashfire 01-09-2008 03:39 PM

"come at me like this"

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-09-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 13630516)
Let's get that dude in your sig. mofo looks like he would enjoy beating on people.

techno viking is a lover not a fighter

Brother Bilo 01-09-2008 04:09 PM

It's like every other martial art. It looks really cool, but it doesn't work for shit in real life. Unless someone falls right into the "trap", they'll end up getting their asses stomped.

msan 01-10-2008 02:25 AM

Plus you have to use the enemy's momentum against him. You can't do offensive moves. You can't go defending yourself all time.

goldmine 01-10-2008 02:44 AM

ive heard that aikido is not for sport, because the goal of that martial art is to break bones, necks, or fatally injure opponents. That is why aikido is not part of olympics unlike karate, judo, and taekwondo.








tho i love to see it in UFC as well lol

Gman.357 01-10-2008 02:44 AM

A lot of people don't know this, but Bruce Lee was one of the first true MMA practitioners and advocates. He believed in taking techniques from various forms of martial arts, using what worked, and throwing the rest away.

Segal is a martial artist, but what you see in his movies, etc, would not work in a real MMA situation. Unless he was able to bring weapons into the cage..

Gman.357 01-10-2008 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldmine (Post 13632456)
ive heard that aikido is not for sport, because the goal of that martial art is to break bones, necks, or fatally injure opponents. That is why aikido is not part of olympics unlike karate, judo, and taekwondo.

tho i love to see it in UFC as well lol

Aikido is basically a defensive art. The problem with it is that it lacks realistic combat situations when training the movies. In other words, they look good choreographed, or in specific rehearsed situations, but don't always work effectively under different kinds of combat situations. A strong wrestler or JuJitsu guy would give any Aikido guy a real hard time.

SayWhut 01-10-2008 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gman.357 (Post 13632457)
A lot of people don't know this, but Bruce Lee was one of the first true MMA practitioners and advocates.


Yeah no shit. He started off with Wing Chun and progressed into MMA.


I'm surprised Wing Chun isn't used in UFC ... would make things interesting also :thumbsup

Gman.357 01-10-2008 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SayWhut (Post 13632474)
Yeah no shit. He started off with Wing Chun and progressed into MMA.


I'm surprised Wing Chun isn't used in UFC ... would make things interesting also :thumbsup

Bruce was pretty amazing at a bunch of different styles. He practiced western boxing, and was so good at it, that he entered an amateur boxing tournament in the 50's, and won 4 bouts by KO, including one against 3-time amateur champ, Gary Elms.

Bruce felt that Wing Chun, along with many other Eastern arts, didn't focus enough on conditioning the body. That's why he started looking at western combat techniques too.

mattyboy 01-10-2008 03:08 AM

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7...ovikingix5.jpg

Shaze 01-10-2008 04:15 AM

i took aikido for about 3 years and trust me that stuff won't work in UFC. the best Aikido master would get destroyed in the UFC

Nicky 01-10-2008 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 13632588)
i took aikido for about 3 years and trust me that stuff won't work in UFC. the best Aikido master would get destroyed in the UFC

I don't think there is any doubt about that

Nicky 01-10-2008 04:33 AM

Oh by the way, couldn't resist posting this ^^ http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bxb0PCBV0vk

hateman 01-10-2008 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 13632588)
i took aikido for about 3 years and trust me that stuff won't work in UFC. the best Aikido master would get destroyed in the UFC

did it take you 3 years to realize that?

Holly 01-10-2008 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman.357 (Post 13632457)
Segal is a martial artist, but what you see in his movies, etc, would not work in a real MMA situation. Unless he was able to bring weapons into the cage..

Steven Segal couldn't fit in the cage.

dav3 01-10-2008 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashfire (Post 13630539)
"come at me like this"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

evildick 01-10-2008 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13630525)
:1orglaugh

Actually that is Rob Halford and they are about to have gay sex.

Shaze 01-10-2008 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hateman (Post 13632623)
did it take you 3 years to realize that?

and you were the "know it all" in the days before the UFC??? Aikido does have it's place in society, law enforcement such as police train in Aikido and it is great for restraining people, it's not just for the UFC.

evildick 01-10-2008 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 13632620)
Oh by the way, couldn't resist posting this ^^ http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bxb0PCBV0vk

I love that video. Wish there was some more back story to this. Just seems too unreal. :1orglaugh

Anthony 01-10-2008 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 13633053)
and you were the "know it all" in the days before the UFC??? Aikido does have it's place in society, law enforcement such as police train in Aikido and it is great for restraining people, it's not just for the UFC.

Tomiki maybe, not Hombu Aikikai, which has no Randori to speak of.

Aikido is usless in the real world against a fully resisting opponent. It took me 2 years to see the light. Years later, when starting to train with Rener Gracie, I was asked to mount and keep it. I thought me at 270lbs, and Rener at 190, it would be a cake walk. It was an eye opener. Aikido is pussified Judo, where your training partner falls for your throws. Aikido guys actually take great pride in being able to fall pretty.

Bald old guy, Aikido Master, Guy in shorts, MMA fighter.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bxb0PCBV0vk&feature=related

notoldschool 01-10-2008 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattyboy (Post 13632487)

Keith Jardine?

Anthony 01-10-2008 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evildick (Post 13633067)
I love that video. Wish there was some more back story to this. Just seems too unreal. :1orglaugh

I reposted that same video.

Back story on it.

Aikido master put out a challenge for $5000.00 that his Aikido could beat any MMA fighter. There's video on youtube of this aikido master fighting his students knocking them out and throwing them around without touching them, kinda like Dim Mak.

Anyways, the MMA figther takes up the challenge. You can actually see even in that shitty clip, the Aikido master is shocked he got punched in the face. It's hilarious.

J. Falcon 01-10-2008 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13630672)
It's like every other martial art. It looks really cool, but it doesn't work for shit in real life. Unless someone falls right into the "trap", they'll end up getting their asses stomped.

Thats bullshit. It works perfectly fine in real life, the thing is Aikido is not used for competition.

Anthony 01-10-2008 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13633107)
Keith Jardine?

When this video came out, it was a big buzz on the MMA boards because it looks like Keith Jardine.

Sokojudo came out with the Predator Mask, due to MMA.TV posting about it. There is another online petition/thread for Keith Jardine to come out to Techno Viking. So far, it's a no. :)

Anthony 01-10-2008 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 13633111)
Thats bullshit. It works perfectly fine in real life, the thing is Aikido is not used for competition.

Sure it does, against a non resisting opponent. Ie. standing around minding their own business and then clothes lined out of the blue by some jackass in a hakama doing irimi nage.

I have 2 years of Aikido. It doesnt' work in the real world against a resisting opponent.

Gman.357 01-10-2008 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 13633111)
Thats bullshit. It works perfectly fine in real life, the thing is Aikido is not used for competition.

you sure?

http://www.tomiki.org/rules.html

Anthony 01-10-2008 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman.357 (Post 13633143)

Yep, I made this point earlier about Tomiki Aikido. Probably the only one that can be used in a real life situation, because the train and fight with their techniques.

Too bad Tomiki Dojos hardly exist anywhere in the USA.

Anthony 01-10-2008 08:18 AM

This just blows my mind.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8L0dFcnux58

Fakest Aikido bullshit ever.

joeman1 01-10-2008 08:23 AM

you all have no clue what your talking about icq and i will enlighten you !

yes wing chun has been used in ufc btw but the guy sucked and got owned.

lastly, this thread is bs

Gman.357 01-10-2008 08:23 AM

I think bottom line is that Aikido, by enlarge, matches up poorly against other grappling styles, especially when some technically sound striking is incorporated into the mix. Aikido is most effective against... Aikido.

Anthony 01-10-2008 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeman1 (Post 13633175)
you all have no clue what your talking about icq and i will enlighten you !

yes wing chun has been used in ufc btw but the guy sucked and got owned.

lastly, this thread is bs

Wing Chun is another martial art that does well against...

Wing Chun.

Two Wing CHung GRANDMASTERS Cheung and Boeztpe go at it in a real fucking street fight. It isn't fucking wing chun used, its' shitty kindergarten wrestling.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=szdF1nIAfpk

Shaze 01-10-2008 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 13633160)
This just blows my mind.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8L0dFcnux58

Fakest Aikido bullshit ever.

what the fuck is that? that is the biggest bullshit i have ever seen. :1orglaugh has any actually experienced Ki before where you feel shit when they don't even touch you? I don't think extending your Ki toward someone can ever be possible.

camchoice 01-10-2008 08:55 AM

why aikido fighters?? i think k1 fighters will do very well in a cage. schemmy schild (3 times k1 champ) has no problems with mma.. he can clean it up there.


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