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hzoltan 01-10-2008 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by goldmine (Post 13632456)
ive heard that aikido is not for sport, because the goal of that martial art is to break bones, necks, or fatally injure opponents. That is why aikido is not part of olympics unlike karate, judo, and taekwondo.

the goal of the traditional karate is the same: to destroy the enemy. And Brother Bilo: even if you think that aikido is a joke, I'd like to see how you fight with an aikido master (I'm not an aikido guy, just don't like when ppl say something stupid, without knowing it at all)

Shaze 01-10-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 13633106)
Tomiki maybe, not Hombu Aikikai, which has no Randori to speak of.

Aikido is usless in the real world against a fully resisting opponent. It took me 2 years to see the light. Years later, when starting to train with Rener Gracie, I was asked to mount and keep it. I thought me at 270lbs, and Rener at 190, it would be a cake walk. It was an eye opener. Aikido is pussified Judo, where your training partner falls for your throws. Aikido guys actually take great pride in being able to fall pretty.

Bald old guy, Aikido Master, Guy in shorts, MMA fighter.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bxb0PCBV0vk&feature=related

i actually agree with what your saying. another thing is that Aikido's moves are way to complicated that they cannot be done in a fight like it's second nature.

WarChild 01-10-2008 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by hzoltan (Post 13633289)
the goal of the traditional karate is the same: to destroy the enemy. And Brother Bilo: even if you think that aikido is a joke, I'd like to see how you fight with an aikido master (I'm not an aikido guy, just don't like when ppl say something stupid, without knowing it at all)

Aikido is for the most part a fucking joke. Find an Aikido master in Vancouver, have him come down to my club and I'll gladly fight him.

LeRoy 01-10-2008 09:10 AM

Ok now. Let me tell you that UFC is full of a bunch of wannabes. The true Moo Do is not UFC. That is why "True Moo Do Masters" do not bother with these ridiculous events made purely for financial gain.

I have trained under true Moo Do Master for 3 years. Let me tell you these UFC guys dont stand 2 second with a True Moo Do master. I am not sayin that my 1st degree Black will hold up in the octagon with Royce Gracie. but....

I have seen some gnarly shit with "my" own eyes. Crazy shit man crazy shit.

Now everytime I see UFC . I kinda laugh. It's the new WWF. We need a guy like King to promote it . That would be great.

Shaze 01-10-2008 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by camchoice (Post 13633270)
why aikido fighters?? i think k1 fighters will do very well in a cage. schemmy schild (3 times k1 champ) has no problems with mma.. he can clean it up there.

i guess because Aikido has never been tested in the octagon because Aikido has rules against using it in competition, suppose to be harmony, defense, defending one's sell without hurting the opponent as much as possible, and all that other sweet stuff...

Anthony 01-10-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 13633305)
i actually agree with what your saying. another thing is that Aikido's moves are way to complicated that they cannot be done in a fight like it's second nature.

Very True Shaze.

Fighting is all about large muscles or Gross Motor Skills. Fine Motor skills go out the window when Adrenal Dump starts.

WarChild 01-10-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by D2222 (Post 13633314)
Ok now. Let me tell you that UFC is full of a bunch of wannabes. The true Moo Do is not UFC. That is why "True Moo Do Masters" do not bother with these ridiculous events made purely for financial gain.

I have trained under true Moo Do Master for 3 years. Let me tell you these UFC guys dont stand 2 second with a True Moo Do master. I am not sayin that my 1st degree Black will hold up in the octagon with Royce Gracie. but....

I have seen some gnarly shit with "my" own eyes. Crazy shit man crazy shit.

Now everytime I see UFC . I kinda laugh. It's the new WWF. We need a guy like King to promote it . That would be great.


Moo Do? Lol.

Gman.357 01-10-2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by D2222 (Post 13633314)
I have trained under true Moo Do Master for 3 years. Let me tell you these UFC guys dont stand 2 second with a True Moo Do master. I am not sayin that my 1st degree Black will hold up in the octagon with Royce Gracie. but....
.

Isn't Moo Do, which translates to "martial art", just a philosophical part of Tae Kwon Do (Karate)? In other words, you have a 1st degree black belt in TKD?

WarChild 01-10-2008 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gman.357 (Post 13633379)
Isn't Moo Do, which translates to "martial art", just a philosophical part of Tae Kwon Do (Karate)? In other words, you have a 1st degree black belt in TKD?

He might mean Dahn Moo Do

http://www.dahnmoodo.com/dmd/

I particularily like that the kids on the homepage have terrible technique. Way to feature crap.

General Choi wouldn't be happy.

dav3 01-10-2008 09:41 AM

Is Drunken Fist more for show, or is it actually functional? It sure does look cool as hell.

Anyone have any links to actual fights using it?

SifuE 01-10-2008 09:44 AM

they dont use wing chun because 99% cant fight in close quarter combat an lack the sensitivity to fight in that range..

Anthony 01-10-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633422)
they dont use wing chun because 99% cant fight in close quarter combat an lack the sensitivity to fight in that range..

WTF?

If you are close enough to me in trapping range, I'm taking your ass down.

WarChild 01-10-2008 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 13633460)
WTF?

If you are close enough to me in trapping range, I'm taking your ass down.

Unless of course you end up too close to me, then you're going Uchi-Mata, big guy. :1orglaugh:winkwink::pimp

SifuE 01-10-2008 10:03 AM

Please internet warrior, I trained with Paul Vunak an we saw 1st hand how many people actually can functionalize trapping range..We were part of the Nucleus..S.T.F.U I was making a statement that I have found in all the seminars I tought n saw people who train trapping range but in combat cant pull it off, But if you think you can, bring it! God there's alway's a guy with a big mouth on the net...BUHHAAAAA

WarChild 01-10-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633504)
Please internet warrior, I trained with Paul Vunak an we saw 1st hand how many people actually can functionalize trapping range..We were part of the Nucleus..S.T.F.U I was making a statement that I have found in all the seminars I tought n saw people who train trapping range but in combat cant pull it off, But if you think you can, bring it! God there's alway's a guy with a big mouth on the net...BUHHAAAAA

You can come play with me at Gracie Barra Vancouver or Revolution Fight Team in Langley anytime you want to spar. You might be surprised.

Do you ever train with full contact sparing?

dav3 01-10-2008 10:12 AM

Is there a charity event brewing here?

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633504)
Please internet warrior, I trained with Paul Vunak an we saw 1st hand how many people actually can functionalize trapping range..We were part of the Nucleus..S.T.F.U I was making a statement that I have found in all the seminars I tought n saw people who train trapping range but in combat cant pull it off, But if you think you can, bring it! God there's alway's a guy with a big mouth on the net...BUHHAAAAA

I fought twice last year in MMA. You?

I second Warchild's invitation. You are invited to try your trapping with us at American Top Team.

SifuE 01-10-2008 10:13 AM

Yes I do, I was also an I.C. for the Marine Corp,, enough you tough guy's..lol I also trained Jui-jitsu with Pedro Carvalho for 10 years.. enough said

yys 01-10-2008 10:14 AM

Anyone remember this guy :pimp

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6...fendo12mk2.jpg


http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9...fendo09vs8.jpg

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13633489)
Unless of course you end up too close to me, then you're going Uchi-Mata, big guy. :1orglaugh:winkwink::pimp

I hate Uchi-Mata. I always land wrong. :(:(:(

SifuE 01-10-2008 10:14 AM

also MMA is bullshit, try having 3 guy's in the street who are skilled trying to kick your ass with no one to save you.. Grow up little boy..

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633551)
Yes I do, I was also an I.C. for the Marine Corp,, enough you tough guy's..lol I also trained Jui-jitsu with Pedro Carvalho for 10 years.. enough said

You train BJJ for 10 years? So you are a black belt in BJJ?

WarChild 01-10-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633551)
Yes I do, I was also an I.C. for the Marine Corp,, enough you tough guy's..lol I also trained Jui-jitsu with Pedro Carvalho for 10 years.. enough said

But you don't want to train anymore? I don't understand why you're getting so worked up here.

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633563)
also MMA is bullshit, try having 3 guy's in the street who are skilled trying to kick your ass with no one to save you.. Grow up little boy..

I carry a gun idiot. I dont live in a movie.

Sorry, I shouldn't have called you an idiot.

Will you be in Vegas? How about a friendly spar?

SifuE 01-10-2008 10:16 AM

Oh please i do train I just don't entertain the weak minded..lol you guys have fun today I have to go an live life.BUHHHHAA ( I also carry a gun Big Fucken Deal)

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633577)
Oh please i do train I just don't entertain the weak minded..lol you guys have fun today I have to go an live life.BUHHHHAA

So...

No spar?

See ya later.

SifuE 01-10-2008 10:18 AM

I wont be in Vegas come to Az.. anytime no problem

WarChild 01-10-2008 10:18 AM

Enterain the weak minded? Dude, wtf.

I train 4 hours a day 6 days a week. I love to train multiple styles, with multiple teachers and I'm always interested in learning something new.

Someone asks you to train and you get all defensive and start making weak comments about having a life etc etc.

You call yourself a martial artist? I've never met ANYONE skilled in any martial art with that kind of attitude. Sounds more like you're a joke than anything else.

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633585)
I wont be in Vegas come to Az.. anytime no problem

You really aren't worth my time to go to Az. Let me know when you come to the show in Florida.

You still have yet to answer my question. 10 years with Carvallho, are you a black belt?

SifuE 01-10-2008 10:20 AM

No what I meant by weak minded is I try to explain something and everyone gets all tough n try's to pick a fight, what i mean by weak minded is if you are strong in your skills an confident in what u do you dont ask for a fight!

WarChild 01-10-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633593)
No what I meant by weak minded is I try to explain something and everyone gets all tough n try's to pick a fight, what i mean by weak minded is if you are strong in your skills an confident in what u do you dont ask for a fight!

Nobody's asking for a fight though. We're asking to train, spar, teach and learn.

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13633588)
Enterain the weak minded? Dude, wtf.

I train 4 hours a day 6 days a week. I love to train multiple styles, with multiple teachers and I'm always interested in learning something new.

Someone asks you to train and you get all defensive and start making weak comments about having a life etc etc.

You call yourself a martial artist? I've never met ANYONE skilled in any martial art with that kind of attitude. Sounds more like you're a joke than anything else.

Anyone who calls themselves Sifu, Shihan, Sensei, Master jackoff on a Webmaster message board is 9 times out of 10, a poseur.

Water off a ducks back. Notice how he came on strong, but backed out. The usual sign of a Keyboard warrior.

LeRoy 01-10-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gman.357 (Post 13633379)
Isn't Moo Do, which translates to "martial art", just a philosophical part of Tae Kwon Do (Karate)? In other words, you have a 1st degree black belt in TKD?

Along with other styles too

Bagwa
TKD
Kung Fu
Aikido
Hapkido
Tai Chi
Jui Jitsu
Samurai Sword
18 weapons

1st degree aint shit though.

boneprone 01-10-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 13633184)
Wing Chun is another martial art that does well against...

Wing Chun.

Two Wing CHung GRANDMASTERS Cheung and Boeztpe go at it in a real fucking street fight. It isn't fucking wing chun used, its' shitty kindergarten wrestling.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=szdF1nIAfpk



NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH WANG CHUNG.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XF0otWk2c04

SifuE 01-10-2008 10:22 AM

God you guy's really do need a life, I don't back down from shit.. just chose not to cont. a stupid convo..

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:24 AM

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Please internet warrior, I trained with Paul Vunak an we saw 1st hand how many people actually can functionalize trapping range..We were part of the Nucleus..S.T.F.U I was making a statement that I have found in all the seminars I tought n saw people who train trapping range but in combat cant pull it off, But if you think you can, bring it! God there's alway's a guy with a big mouth on the net...BUHHAAAAA

also MMA is bullshit, try having 3 guy's in the street who are skilled trying to kick your ass with no one to save you.. Grow up little boy..

Oh please i do train I just don't entertain the weak minded..lol you guys have fun today I have to go an live life.BUHHHHAA ( I also carry a gun Big Fucken Deal)
Name calling to you is explaining something?

When you get called out to back up what you say in a friendly spar, you run away. Why is that?

SifuE 01-10-2008 10:25 AM

Ok friendly spar anytime your in town,, see i can play nice

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:25 AM

You said you fought MMA. Got Proof?

You said you trained with Carvalho for 10 years, what belt level are you?

Thanks.

Pleasurepays 01-10-2008 10:26 AM

lets all ask steven segal... i mean afterall, he offered the challenge to fight to the death (before he was an actor) to silence all his critics ... but to everyones shock and dismay, he didn't follow through with the 20 plus people that took him up on his offer.

Anthony 01-10-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SifuE (Post 13633614)
Ok friendly spar anytime your in town,, see i can play nice

See you in 6 months then? Will you be at Internext Florida?


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