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Phoenix 06-01-2007 09:25 AM

Reasons to open an investigation into the internal terrorist bombing of 9/11
 
Top Facts:

Buildings collapsed at free fall rate - no resistance

Experts agree it is scientifically impossible that fire could have brought down the WTC towers 1 and 2 or building 7

Many eyewitnesses from all perspectives reported multiple explosions at the scene.

Video evidence clearly shows explosions as the buildings (1 & 2) collapse

Larry Silverstein used demolition term when he talked of building 7 "we made that decision to pull the building"

Reliable eye-witnesses such as former janitor William Rodriguez heard explosions in the basement before the first plane hit.

Substantial insider trading around 911 has never been properly investigated.

Several of the apparent hijackers have been found to be alive.

NORAD did not respond to normal standard operating procedure due to high level government interference related to drills taking place on 911.

There are some who maintain that the mythical 9/11 hijackers, although proven to be too incompetent to fly a little Cessna 172, had acquired the impressive skills that enabled them to fly airliners by training in flight simulators. Nila Sagadevan is an aeronautical engineer and a qualified pilot. he explains how the maneuvers Hani Hanjour had to go through to reach the Pentagon are virtually impossible.

Al Qaeda was originally the name for a CIA database of terrorists used against the Russians in the eighties.

Wars which would likely not have been justified without 911 as a trump card have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Many more will suffer and die in coming years due to depleted uranium shells and the use of other NBC weapons - this includes our soldiers.

http://911truthcampaign.net/freeview/mysteries.html

polish_aristocrat 06-01-2007 09:29 AM

2-3 pages coming, perhaps 4 if Franck decides to spend his birthday on GFY

Phoenix 06-01-2007 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 12524836)
2-3 pages coming, perhaps 4 if Franck decides to spend his birthday on GFY

im going to start an alien ufo thread right now also..i know franck cant help himself on those ones..lol


youtube has some cool footage these days

stickyfingerz 06-01-2007 09:37 AM

http://www.mindlitter.com/Mindlitter...loosescrew.jpg

L-Pink 06-01-2007 09:40 AM

Expert opinion .....Hollywood swordsman and hooker connoisseur Charlie Sheen thinks something smells fishy.

Ramos 06-01-2007 09:46 AM

we never landed on the moon and oswald was a patsy

notabook 06-01-2007 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12524892)

I don't think one screwdriver is going to be enough. Better call Al to make sure.




Nope, one won't be enough. Better buy him a complete set at Sears.

Phoenix 06-01-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12524892)

yeah let the reds screw with your brain some more


christ is coming to save you....go tell it on the mountain

Phoenix 06-01-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramos (Post 12524966)
we never landed on the moon and oswald was a patsy

man i really want to believe we landed on the moon

cause we suck if we didnt

but facts point to a faked moon landing...they didnt even have suits or a spacecraft built back then that could withstand the radiation once they got past the van allen belt....not too mention the sun was pumping out extra high doses that month



oswald was defintiely a patsy..he probably took a couple shots though...but he was one of many

_Richard_ 06-01-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12524997)
man i really want to believe we landed on the moon

cause we suck if we didnt

but facts point to a faked moon landing...they didnt even have suits or a spacecraft built back then that could withstand the radiation once they got past the van allen belt....not too mention the sun was pumping out extra high doses that month



oswald was defintiely a patsy..he probably took a couple shots though...but he was one of many

I thought the whole moon thing was bs till i heard the point about hte blast crater under the lander... for that to land safely, there'd have to be a bit of a crater at the very least.. nothing

ADL Colin 06-01-2007 09:56 AM

we've done this too many times before. let's keep it short this time.

Bin Laden says, "We calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all. Due to my experience in this field I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for."

stickyfingerz 06-01-2007 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12524997)
man i really want to believe we landed on the moon

cause we suck if we didnt

but facts point to a faked moon landing...they didnt even have suits or a spacecraft built back then that could withstand the radiation once they got past the van allen belt....not too mention the sun was pumping out extra high doses that month



oswald was defintiely a patsy..he probably took a couple shots though...but he was one of many

http://www.mindlitter.com/Mindlitter...loosescrew.jpg

Phoenix 06-01-2007 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12525073)

you must have ran out of all the intelligent things to say you usually have lined up..lol

ADL Colin 06-01-2007 10:06 AM

Osama bin Laden continues: "We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 PM our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmed Abu-al-Khair. Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center."

Again, the Sheikh replies: "Allah be praised."

Bin Laden continues: "After a little while they announced that another plane had hit the World Trade Center." "The brothers who heard the news were overjoyed by it."

ronaldo 06-01-2007 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramos (Post 12524966)
we never landed on the moon and oswald was a patsy

You're 50% right at least. We did land on the moon, but yes, Oswald was a patsy.

ADL Colin 06-01-2007 10:11 AM

Oswald Lee Harvey. Cleveland. Rocks.

notabook 06-01-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 12525129)
You're 50% right at least. We did land on the moon, but yes, Oswald was a patsy.

Not true... we didn't land on the moon because the moon isn't real. It's actually an advanced holographic projection. You can't land on a projection. Oh and Oswald wasn't a patsy, he was actually JFK in disguise. The guy who got shot was none other than Hitler.

The Duck 06-01-2007 10:11 AM

See sig for scientific evidence and essays written by scholars on this subject.

Phoenix 06-01-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 12525106)
Osama bin Laden continues: "We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 PM our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmed Abu-al-Khair. Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center."

Again, the Sheikh replies: "Allah be praised."

Bin Laden continues: "After a little while they announced that another plane had hit the World Trade Center." "The brothers who heard the news were overjoyed by it."

if i send you a video...and say it is osama..you wil believe me

even though he is wearing jewelrry forbidden to him...he is using his right hand when everyone knows he is left handed...etc etc


suck it up..towing the party line is always wise when your country is on the brink of civil and financial breakdown

12clicks 06-01-2007 10:13 AM

oh look, the one trick pony is back with more of his 9/11 facts.
:1orglaugh

The Duck 06-01-2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 12525106)
Osama bin Laden continues: "We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 PM our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmed Abu-al-Khair. Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center."

Again, the Sheikh replies: "Allah be praised."

Bin Laden continues: "After a little while they announced that another plane had hit the World Trade Center." "The brothers who heard the news were overjoyed by it."

Umm, you are leaving out the fact that Bin Laden said this short after the attacks;

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.

It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel.

There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces.

Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims."

Clearly denying involvement. This whole statement was not reported at all by the mainstream media.

ronaldo 06-01-2007 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12525152)
towing the party line is always wise when your country is on the brink of civil and financial breakdown

Why is believing something the government tells you automatically "Towing the line?" Believing EVERYTHING they tell you, sure, I'd agree with that.

But, not believing ANYTHING the government tells you makes you a conspiracy nut...a phrase I don't use lightly because I hate it. Questioning those in authority isn't always a bad thing, but overdoing it just deflates your credibility for when it might REALLY be needed.

DaddyHalbucks 06-01-2007 10:20 AM

Total, unadultered, 100% pure, FDA approved, pharmaceutical grade bullshit.

Phoenix 06-01-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 12525212)
Why is believing something the government tells you automatically "Towing the line?" Believing EVERYTHING they tell you, sure, I'd agree with that.

But, not believing ANYTHING the government tells you makes you a conspiracy nut...a phrase I don't use lightly because I hate it. Questioning those in authority isn't always a bad thing, but overdoing it just deflates your credibility for when it might REALLY be needed.

i agree...when they tell me i should eat healthier i agree with them

when they tell me massive steel beams neatly cut themselves into 30 ft sections...i dont believe

i pick and choose at my own discretion:)

The Duck 06-01-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 12525212)
Why is believing something the government tells you automatically "Towing the line?" Believing EVERYTHING they tell you, sure, I'd agree with that.

But, not believing ANYTHING the government tells you makes you a conspiracy nut...a phrase I don't use lightly because I hate it. Questioning those in authority isn't always a bad thing, but overdoing it just deflates your credibility for when it might REALLY be needed.

Trust me, this is the time when questioning the government is really needed. Blind false flag-waving patriotism is what they want, and sadly that is what people are giving them.

Phoenix 06-01-2007 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12525158)
oh look, the one trick pony is back with more of his 9/11 facts.
:1orglaugh

yes yes child i see you

ADL Colin 06-01-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kandah (Post 12525180)
mainstream media.

Ahh, the "I am a conspiracy website lunatic" catch-phrase.

ronaldo 06-01-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12525238)
i agree...when they tell me i should eat healthier i agree with them

when they tell me massive steel beams neatly cut themselves into 30 ft sections...i dont believe

i pick and choose at my own discretion:)

Let me ask you a serious question Brad.

Do you ever do research looking for the other side of the argument to offset and balance things, or do you just read as much as you can on ONE side of things?

ronaldo 06-01-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kandah (Post 12525242)
Trust me, this is the time when questioning the government is really needed. Blind false flag-waving patriotism is what they want, and sadly that is what people are giving them.

You know what? I agree with that. "At this time" being the key phrase. But even "At this time" the government isn't lying to you 100% of the time.

The Duck 06-01-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 12525262)
You know what? I agree with that. "At this time" being the key phrase. But even "At this time" the government isn't lying to you 100% of the time.

They are lying most of the time, and I can prove it.

Phoenix 06-01-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo (Post 12525257)
Let me ask you a serious question Brad.

Do you ever do research looking for the other side of the argument to offset and balance things, or do you just read as much as you can on ONE side of things?

I hope and hope constantly that i am wrong about somethings

i have many friends who dont agree with me...i listen to their arguments
most of my friends offline hold similar degrees to me...they have their arguments....i enjoy hearing a valid argument from a smart person on any subject...i dont enjoy people who have nothing to offer and resort to name calling and using the term ":conspiracy theorist" I mean are there no other arguments they can offer?


whenever someone shows me their side of the story i always pay attention in the hopes that i missed something...perhaps i am wrong

i like to explore all avenues before i come to a conclusion.

on this i cant be swayed....call it a mathematicians hunch

The Duck 06-01-2007 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 12525254)
Ahh, the "I am a conspiracy website lunatic" catch-phrase.

Mind stopping the fox news style namecalling and providing some arguments for your statements?

ADL Colin 06-01-2007 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kandah (Post 12525180)
As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie.

Later contradicted by his videotaped testimony. You are being ridiculous. Osama has never denied that it is he in that video which would be an obvious statement to make.

"initially denied involvement". That is all.

http://linkification.com/linked/osama.gif

12clicks 06-01-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12525238)
when they tell me massive steel beams neatly cut themselves into 30 ft sections...i dont believe

can you point to these mythical 30ft sections?
this pic also points out the fallicy of explosions in the basement

http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/2001...c/pdrm1943.jpg

12clicks 06-01-2007 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kandah (Post 12525300)
They are lying most of the time, and I can prove it.

ok, prove it.

Phoenix 06-01-2007 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 12525333)
Later contradicted by his videotaped testimony. You are being ridiculous. Osama has never denied that it is he in that video which would be an obvious statement to make.

"initially denied involvement". That is all.

http://linkification.com/linked/osama.gif

you have factual prrof of what you just said..i mean besides the comic strip cartoon you have there?

as i seem to remember him denying it bigtime

why the fuck would he attack the usa like that? so they can bomb the fuck out of the one country willing to let him be?

he never struck me as being a moron

The Duck 06-01-2007 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 12525333)
Later contradicted by his videotaped testimony. You are being ridiculous. Osama has never denied that it is he in that video which would be an obvious statement to make.

"initially denied involvement". That is all.

http://linkification.com/linked/osama.gif

Yes that is correct, however there is one little thing screwing up that argument. The tapes are false and fabricated evidence.

http://physics911.net/kevinbarrett
http://infowars.net/articles/februar...Osama_tape.htm

And then we have this, a statement from the FBI about Bin Laden and 911; ?No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.?

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...60611155014535

Phoenix 06-01-2007 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12525348)
can you point to these mythical 30ft sections?
this pic also points out the fallicy of explosions in the basement

http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/2001...c/pdrm1943.jpg

how does that pic point out anything?

anyone and their mother knows that almost all the steel was shipped away very very quickly to china or wherever to be smelted.

why not do it here? why not conduct an investigation into why there was molten metal still red hot weeks later? why would fires just constantly keep firing up? it is obvious to anyone that there were things some people didnt want to be found

ADL Colin 06-01-2007 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 12525311)
Mind stopping the fox news style namecalling and providing some arguments for your statements?

You want me to have a serious discussion about the likelihood that Osama changed his mind about claiming responsibility for 9/11 versus someone getting out his $14.95 Osama Bin Laden Halloween costume and staging a one hour long mock discussion with some Afghan Sheikh where he claims responsibility for the 9/11 attacks?

I think I'll stick to namecalling, Mr O'Reilly. Unless you are gonna take a few minutes to think of something to say that you didn't read on a conspiracy website.

The Duck 06-01-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12525361)
ok, prove it.

http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm

http://www.bushlies.com/

http://bush-lies.blogspot.com/

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor...7/22_lies.html


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